erick3

So I've heard a lot of good things about this new Pennzoil Plat and I've been considering switching over. Apparently according to rumors (?), Mobil 1's been selling a different product in their same old bottle of "fully synthetic" motor oil. I've heard from a few people now that Mobil 1's so called synthetic oil isn't actually fully synthetic; it's part! Pennzoil Plat > Mobil 1? THANKS!

lusid

There are two grades of the M1 - I think you have to look for the bottle that says "fully synthetic"

As for penz I got no say.

lusid

Also -

http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/Mo..._Warranty.aspx

1 year or 15k miles? Does anyone follow that at all? seems crazy

McKulit

My friend drives an MB C class to work from Long Island NY to Pennsylvania everyday. His rountrip drive is about 240 mi. He uses Mobil 1 and religiously changes oil when it's almost 15K. 3 yrs pass now he still drives the same car to work. I think the car now has close to 200K on it's odometer and it still runs good!

Is it maybe because it's all highway miles? I dunno

xdaily

I drive 100miles round trip a day 5 days a week and just put Mobile 1 extended
protection in my TL this weekend. Im gonna check it at 10,000 miles to see if
its dirty.


$4.99 a quart on sale at autozone.

harddrivin1le

http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/Mo...il_1_FAQs.aspx

"Is Mobil 1 with SuperSyn Technology a fully synthetic motor oil?"

Yes, it is. To meet the demanding requirements of today's specifications (and our customers' expectations), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn uses high-performance fluids, including polyalphaolefins (PAOs), along with a proprietary system of additives. Each Mobil 1 with SuperSyn viscosity grade uses a unique combination of synthetic fluids and selected additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its specific application."

dnd2984

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Get Royal Purple or Valvoline Synpower. Both Full syn oils.

HiTEC

I switched over because my auto parts store was running a sale a couple months back for back one get one free. I filled my trunk with cases of oil. I saved myself some major scratch on oil.

The Pennzoil Platinum meets Acura's turbo spec

PENNZOIL PLATINUM exceeds:
• North American warranty requirements for U.S., European and Japanese cars and light trucks with gasoline and gasoline turbo-charged engines where API SM and earlier API categoriesare specified
• North American warranty requirements for U.S., European and Japanese cars and light trucks with diesel engines where API CF oils are specified
• ILSAC GF-4Energy Conserving performance standard (0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30 & 10W-30)
• Meets Chrysler MS 6395N (5W-20, 5W-30, 10W-30)
• Meets Ford WSS M2C930-A (5W-20) and WSS-M2C929-A (5W-30)
• Meets GM 6094M specification (SAE 5W-30 and SAE 10W-30)
• Meets GM 4718M specification for Corvette (5W-30 and 10W-30)
• Meets Acura HTO-06 for turbo-charged applications (5W-30)
• Meets demanding ACEA requirements

dwest1023

Oil looking dirty in not an indication of worn out oil or that it needs to be changed.

HiTEC

I would totally agree with that! That probably the most unscientific way to judge an oil. Only way to tell is to have an oil analysis done.

Desert_TL

Well there are two types of "synthetic" oil: oils that use a Type 3 base and oils that use a Type 4 base. Type 3 base is nothing more than a highly refined dino oil. Type 4 base is a true synthetic oil. Most "synthetic" oils are Type 3 oils.

So then you would ask, "why would they call a highly refined dino oil synthetic"? Well, some consumers wondered the same question and sued the oil companies. The oil companies won. They are allowed to call a motor oil FULLY SYNTHETIC even if it is a Base 3 type oil. Again, a Base 3 type oil is highly refined dino oil.

All major brands of "fully synthetic" oil are Base 3, INCLUDING PENNZOIL PLATINUM. The only brands that still use Base 4 are Royal Purple and Amsoil, as far as I know.

THTL

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so you saying Royal Purple is fully synthetic and is it better than Mobil 1?

leedogg

I use amsoil

XxAfG786xX

is using anything other then 5W20 bad for our cars?

01tl4tl

the switch from 5-30 for gen2 to 5-20 for gen3 is about the Govt rules on CAFE and acura used the tiny mileage increase ~ for testing purposes~ of the thinner oil
On gen2 the book say 10-30 is fine for warm climates and 5-30 everywhere
The low number is a cold temp viscosity
the upper number is what we care about -measured at 200 degrees F
the slipperiness of the oil

Whats important to us is the wear protection provided to the many parts smashing together and across each other at high speed in our engines
I have close to changing miles on my first run of PenzSynth and will have tested and post.
www.blackstone-labs.com for freee test kits, test is $23+10 if you want to know if you can keep running current fill for longer- for people that want to go over 7500 miles

The EPA made changes in the allowed additives in oil and that resulted in some formula changes and rebranding
Mobil1 old school is now mobil1 Hi Mileage Formula

ARX-01b

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Motorcraft Syn Blend is the way to go

ACTROS

iTrader: (7)

I used 5W-30 Mobil 1, US made Castrol and Penz "pure" syn oils before and wasn't satisfied with how the oil holds up after 3K miles in my blown TL. I believe their syn oils are the lower end oils now, not as pure stock as the European heavy duty/high mileage oils used in BMW engines for example, class A3/B3/B4.

With use of said oils the oil turned almost black after only 3K miles and it smelled weird too. I must admit that I drive hard and the engine operates extremely hard under the high boost supercharged condition but still the syn oil suppose to last longer. Once I switched to Castrol 0-30 (German made syn) the oil remained light in color longer and no smell, under same driving conditions.

Now I didn't send any oil for testing and my findings are unscientific but that lighter color and the lack of smell other than regular smell of oil, should mean something. Maybe it means that the oil doesn't get burned up.

The green German Castrol straight thirty is hard to come by but if you see it in one of the auto supply stores like the Autozone, get it w/o any hesitation, it's the best heavy duty pure syn oil out there that I know of and it's sold for the same price as other syn oils like Mobil or Penz.

If you are NA than any number of syn oils out there will do just fine but if you are FI you owe to yourself and you engine to get the best syn oil available and I think the German Castol 0W-30 is just that. Just my experience, I don't work for Castrol!

PS. I probably should have kept my mouth shut about my oil adventure, that way I'd have more of that better oil for myself but what's the hell....another TL driver is like a brother to me, haha, enjoy!

godfather2

i've used both and don't know if either one is better than the other. i can tell you that the pennzoil platinum is noooo joke: it took me over 10 minutes to drain my oil last time a did an oil change - the oil refused to leave the pan =)

ACTROS

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I know that the 5W-30 Penz Platinum has Acura/Honda turbo engine endorsement. Meaning they favor the use of that oil in the new turbocharged 2.3L I4 RDX. I don't know, after experiencing that oil I can't say that it's any better than the regular Mobil 1, but maybe they know something I don't???

erick3

$19.94 for 5 quart fully synthetic mobil 1 @ WALMART!

darksom1

Hi there ladies and gents...

Is your car feeling sluggish?

Doesn't have that get up and go? :shakehead

Afraid of throwing a rod?

Getting on your last fucking nerve?

Welllll...there's hope! No...not that kind of hope dammit

This kind:

New Pennzoil Platinum! Your engine will love it and so will you!

Perfect for Big Daddy's 6MT NBP Acura TL , and it will also work for lesser known colors , I mean cars!

So what are you waiting for? Get the hell out there to your local automotive store and remember:

"Pennzoil Platinum! The others? - Walk right past 'em!"

erick3

oooh boy, so looks like i'll just stick w/ Mobil 1. Royal Purple's expensive!!! does anyone go by the car maintenance reminder? i'm passed 5000 miles and it reads 10%...figured I'd go by that instead of the typical 5000?

01tl4tl

break in miles about 5000 is good for a change- after that run quality oil and change every 7500 as needed by MID

The oil is supposed to pick up crud in the system and take it to the filter- some of it stays in suspension- thats the color getting darker, the oil doing its job!

Testing is the only sure method, I am thinking or running redline this time and see what the test results say between them, for now I have been very happy with the PP

gauravp123

wtf lol

dude lay off the frappucino's at 11pm

gauravp123

LI to PA and back everyday? is the guy NUTS??!?!?
I live in LI....that's just ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

McKulit

Hahaha that's what I told him. He's a consultant and makes good money on this assignment that's why he can't leave yet (milking the cow you know). Anyway he lives in Manhasset (which I think is the first city in Long Island) and travels to Allentown PA.

F23A4

Too bad it is not the reverse commute (i.e.: living in Allentown and working in Manhasset) where, commuter rail (NJT High Bridge-NYP, LIRR NYP-Manhasset) could play a part in the equation.

Back on topic, when I switched from Mobil1 to Royal Purple (in my 02 Maxima), the motor did seem to run a bit smoother afterwards. I will likely use RP for my AV6's first oil change.

Swobro

DITTO! I've used Mobil-1 in my cars (Maximas, Toyota 4 x 4's, Corvette Z06's) for many years and have never had an issue with an engine (typically I'll sell my cars after 5 - 6 years of ownership).

dwest1023

Almost any good oil will allow an engine to last 5 or 6 years. If I was not keeping a car at least 10 years, no way would I pay the expense of using a syn oil. dino at 3K is all you need.

Porkipine

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Took this from http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253651

Had my first free oil change from the dealer but next I'll be using amsoil oil. Yes its a bit expensive but I just want to try it out and I've heard lots of good stuff about it. A couple of us chipped in to buy the 1 year membership to amsoil which gives us I think 20% off the retail value

KN_TL

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What affect does the oil filter have in all of this.

I always understood that the oil lubricates and carries off the impurities which is caught in the filter.

If the filter becomes so dirty that the bypass valve kicks in, then you still have impurities circulating around the engine.

You always change the oil and filter together, but which goes bad first?

KeithL

And are these impurities in the G35 case an example of porr oil or premature breakdown of engine components indicating a engine issue?

erick3

...my question exactly...

fsttyms1

I do. I typically run 10-15k intervals. Have been for along time. (over 200k miles)

cbptls

Click here for article.

Pep Boys has it on sale for $1.99 after rebate. I plan on using this in my '02 Accord, then I'll decide later if it'll go in my TL as well.

XxAfG786xX

what do guys think about Roya Purple??