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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Messed around with Lexus 400; WRX

Last nite a buddy with a Lexus 400 was messing with me (6MT TL) for a couple of miles. I have to ask him what year it is. Basically if I really gave it my all I walked him but if I just floored it say in 4th we were even until I got into the higher rpms.

I also messed with a WRX on the way home, but traffic was pretty heavy. I'd say that I could have beat him but we were mostly even.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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400? SC, LS or GS??
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I also messed with a WRX on the way home, but traffic was pretty heavy. I'd say that I could have beat him but we were mostly even.
I am assuming you are talking about going against a WRX on the roll or highway? From a traffic light, the WRX will take our TL every time with AWD launch.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Yeah I dont really think you are going to take a WRX from a stop. i know that when I drive my buddies EVO. Those things will take off in First If you launch it. On the Highway at least you have a fighting chance.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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I'll ask about the Lexus.

I did one hit from a light with the WRX and he of course got out on me but I was catching him. I've seen stock WRX's go 14.4-14.7 at the track so it makes sense. My friend had a modded WRX that was going 12.6.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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I have a 1999 Lexus GS400 and there is no way you kept up with a GS400 for long....those things are V8's dude. I can tell you from experience....If I was gonna go to the races....I think I would rather have the GS400 L-Tuned car than the Acura TL A-spec (and I have em both). The GS400 with the L-tuned accessories launches off the line and produces good power into the...oh...lets say 120mph+ range and keeps making after.....just past its peak band at that point. Ok...I compare that to my TL.....which launches off the line good.....but #1-truely seeks high RPM for good power yield (GS400 makes it from the get go) and starts to "bend over a bit" at around 90 and truely does not make the horsepower that the Lexus V8 does (from the seat of the pants anyway...not sure what the stats say). Great suspension on both. Also...the rear wheel drive may help a bit on the Lexus too.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
I am assuming you are talking about going against a WRX on the roll or highway? From a traffic light, the WRX will take our TL every time with AWD launch.
Ah, the magazine speaks again.


How many WRX drivers do you know that can launch their cars perfect every time? A lot of times, they bog.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Ah, the magazine speaks again.


How many WRX drivers do you know that can launch their cars perfect every time? A lot of times, they bog.
I can If I had an WRX against your TL, I would beat you
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
I can If I had an WRX against your TL, I would beat you
And if I had a Koenigsegg, I could spot you 10 and still win. What's your point?

If this, if that... perhaps you give yourself a little too much credit.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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I'm not sure the model of the Lexus, but if I grabbed 3rd from a roll, I walked away... I have friends with V8 Lexus cars that run in the 14's so I know they are not slow...

The WRX might have been automatic too and I'm sure that would make it like a 14.8 car or something.

I can tell the TL is a low 14 second car stock and maybe a 101mph trap speed car if you beat on it.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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I'd like to see numbers on a stock 6MT TL in the low 14s trapping 101. I don't believe that for a second.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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in the mid range the TL can keep up or even jump ahead a little bit, but low end torque, solid mid-range and great V8 power up top, mkaes the GS400 much faster than a TL. From 40-75mph I bet you could beat a GS400.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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I don't think it was a GS400. My friend has not been online lately so I have not been able to ask him.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I don't think it was a GS400. My friend has not been online lately so I have not been able to ask him.
Is your friend's '400' a 2dr (SC400) or 4dr (LS or GS)??
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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TL can beat the old LS400s, but is probably not got much of a chance against a GS400.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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GS400=fastest lexus ever made! Will beat any stock TL 0-100. V8 vs. V6, now if Acura offered a V8 we wouldn't be having this discussion because a 4.0 V8 Acura would destroy a 4.0 V8 Lexus hands down. Comfort that goes to Lexus as they are the best in the biz.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
I'd like to see numbers on a stock 6MT TL in the low 14s trapping 101. I don't believe that for a second.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124099

not trapping 101 but practically hitting 14 flat.. that's with only an intake and on 18inch rims..
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sbuswell
GS400=fastest lexus ever made!
The new IS350 will lay a hurtin' on the GS4XX.



V8 vs. V6, now if Acura offered a V8 we wouldn't be having this discussion because a 4.0 V8 Acura would destroy a 4.0 V8 Lexus hands down. Comfort that goes to Lexus as they are the best in the biz.
That's a hypothetical assumption. Honda/Acura doesnt have a production V8 motor to use as a point of reference so, the claim that 'Honda V8 > Toyota V8' is a baseless assumption at best!! I wont even go into 'abstracts' like curb weight, chassis, drivetrain, etc,...

And it's even more poignant to not that Toyota (#UZ-FE series) and Nissan (VK-series) have been developing and evolving their production V8s for years.

Even V6 vs V6, the TL & RL dont even come near to 'destroying' their Infiniti/Lexus counterparts. So I'm not so sure why you'd think a V8 would fair any better for Acura.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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well if anyone cares.. the new lexus GS450h is a V6, with a hybrid electric engine producing "well over 300 horsepower" was the quote I heard from the test drive on SpeedChannel.

Kind of stuck out... a GS450 being a V6... but it's true... a 3.5L V6 and an electric engine as well..

The fast searches I just did failed to come up with a link to a page with an actual HP rating, but I heard it myself directly off the TV during a test drive of the car. The host of the show didn't say the exact numbers, just "well over 300hp".

That might be a way acura could stay away from a V8 and still get the power of the V8.. an upgraded TL engine in combo with an electric engine.. hmmmm
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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well if anyone cares.. the new lexus GS450h is a V6, with a hybrid electric engine producing "well over 300 horsepower" was the quote I heard from the test drive on SpeedChannel.

Kind of stuck out... a GS450 being a V6... but it's true... a 3.5L V6 and an electric engine as well..

The fast searches I just did failed to come up with a link to a page with an actual HP rating, but I heard it myself directly off the TV during a test drive of the car. The host of the show didn't say the exact numbers, just "well over 300hp".

That might be a way acura could stay away from a V8 and still get the power of the V8.. an upgraded TL engine in combo with an electric engine.. hmmmm
Just wait until the new GS460 comes out. It's going to be putting out anywhere from 360hp-400hp. Can you say 13's?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Anyone want to wager on whether or not the new IS460 winds up being the quickest Lexus??
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Anyone want to wager on whether or not the new IS460 winds up being the quickest Lexus??
There will not be a IS460 only GS460 and LS 460.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LEX_MAN
There will not be a IS460 only GS460 and LS 460.
Click Link and wait to see .
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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gs400s are nothing, they just look nice in that blue color
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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I believe it was an LS400. Not a GS. It's a 4 door. It's quick but slower. My other buddie's 1999 or 2000 400 runs like 15.0 the converter/trans setup is very conservative.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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GS400:


1G LS400:


2G LS400:
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Click Link and wait to see .
More than likely the IS460 will be a hybrid of the 3.5 V6
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LEX_MAN
More than likely the IS460 will be a hybrid of the 3.5 V6
Caveat: Lexus trademarked the 'IS460' name.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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I asked him, he has a 1999 GS 400.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I asked him, he has a 1999 GS 400.
That's what I kinda thought.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LEX_MAN
More than likely the IS460 will be a hybrid of the 3.5 V6

No..... The IS460 will be a 4.6L V8 crammed into the "baby Lexus" ... read the article you quoted.... it's like 30 words long and it says the IS460 will be a V8

There is a GS400 ( or 4something ) that will be the hybrid 3.5L V6, but they aren't calling it a V8 obviously.... it is a hybrid 3.5L V6
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