Many Fine Scratches on Driver's Side doors
#1
Many Fine Scratches on Driver's Side doors
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Has anyone else has mysterious scratches on the driver's side doors?
2005TL Nav/AT Anthricite/Quartz, purchased 12/04
Is started between my 2nd and third washing. I use 2 separate buckets and mitts, one for the wheels (cotton mitt) and one for the body (sheepskin mitt) washing the body from the top down, so bottom-grime-impact stays on the bottom. I dry the car with silcone squeegee and microfiber towels.
I stroke side-to-side and the scratches are at an angle, left/low to right/high, so it not from my washing.
The scratches are numerous and seem to grow in number every week. My first thought was that fine gravel was being thrown on left curves, but I drive the same roads in the same manner as with my last car which was 2003 TL-S, with no such scratches for 3 years.... Or any other previous cars for that matter ... Civics, Accord V6, Integra...
After I dry the car the scratches have a white apppearance (probably clear cote) making them really visible on the dark anthricite paint.
Is this a paint flaw? It is really annoying...
Has anyone else has mysterious scratches on the driver's side doors?
2005TL Nav/AT Anthricite/Quartz, purchased 12/04
Is started between my 2nd and third washing. I use 2 separate buckets and mitts, one for the wheels (cotton mitt) and one for the body (sheepskin mitt) washing the body from the top down, so bottom-grime-impact stays on the bottom. I dry the car with silcone squeegee and microfiber towels.
I stroke side-to-side and the scratches are at an angle, left/low to right/high, so it not from my washing.
The scratches are numerous and seem to grow in number every week. My first thought was that fine gravel was being thrown on left curves, but I drive the same roads in the same manner as with my last car which was 2003 TL-S, with no such scratches for 3 years.... Or any other previous cars for that matter ... Civics, Accord V6, Integra...
After I dry the car the scratches have a white apppearance (probably clear cote) making them really visible on the dark anthricite paint.
Is this a paint flaw? It is really annoying...
#3
This sounds more like a paint problem than something you could be doing based upon your description of your washing method.
I also have anthracite, so I'll check mine out later when the weather breaks in the spring and I can get back to washing it by hand.
Thanks for the heads up.
I also have anthracite, so I'll check mine out later when the weather breaks in the spring and I can get back to washing it by hand.
Thanks for the heads up.
#5
after rereading I think it could also be caused by the microfiber towels. I noticed they are good for some things but dirt gets stuck in them and doesn't come out even after washing. But pics are going to be your best tool in helping us help you with your problem.
#6
Originally Posted by JDM5lugHatch
after rereading I think it could also be caused by the microfiber towels. I noticed they are good for some things but dirt gets stuck in them and doesn't come out even after washing. But pics are going to be your best tool in helping us help you with your problem.
#7
Originally Posted by JDM5lugHatch
after rereading I think it could also be caused by the microfiber towels. I noticed they are good for some things but dirt gets stuck in them and doesn't come out even after washing. But pics are going to be your best tool in helping us help you with your problem.
My last 3 cars in descending order were very similar in color: 03 TL-S(dk green), 98 Accord 2Dr EX-V6(dk green), 94 Integra LS(teal)
Thanks for the reply. I do not think is is the microfiber towels as I use them all over the car and the scratches are in one place only, on the drivers side doors, primarily the back half if the fron door and the front half of the back door. Some of the scratches are in clusers (perfectly parallel), some spanning from one door the the other.
I will try to take pictures, but it may be difficult as I tested Maguire's Scratch X and it smoothed out the scratches so tey are more stealthy.
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Picture
Here is a picture.
After the Scratch-x they are really hard to see.
The area looks almost perfect in low-light just inches away, but in I notice in direct sunlight I now see swirls in the area I applies the scratch-x. Am I doomed or is there a way to clean up the Scratch-X swirls???
After the Scratch-x they are really hard to see.
The area looks almost perfect in low-light just inches away, but in I notice in direct sunlight I now see swirls in the area I applies the scratch-x. Am I doomed or is there a way to clean up the Scratch-X swirls???
#10
I really don't think this is a paint defect. And by the description of how you wash your car, it sounds like you know what your doing. However, I would still look into the towel your using to dry off the car. Also, try using some Meguires X was and it should remove the swirls. G'Luck!
#11
Originally Posted by J RIDE 81
I really don't think this is a paint defect. And by the description of how you wash your car, it sounds like you know what your doing. However, I would still look into the towel your using to dry off the car. Also, try using some Meguires X was and it should remove the swirls. G'Luck!
#14
My guess is that your initial instinct was right. It looks like something got thrown back from your tire. I can see at least two of these scratches, it looks like the higher one is at a steeper angle.
Try to imagine the scratches extending forward, do they intersect at your tire? If so, I think you found your culprit. Much as I hate to say so, you might want to consider mud flaps.....
Try to imagine the scratches extending forward, do they intersect at your tire? If so, I think you found your culprit. Much as I hate to say so, you might want to consider mud flaps.....
#15
I would think it's either zippers or a bag of some sort (laptop) that you are wearing or carrying are coming in contact with the paint. Or it's caused by road debris being thrown up by the tires like others have also pointed out. If its not you then its most likely the tires are the culprit.
Could also be caused by shrubs either driving too close to them or opening your door into them.
Could also be caused by shrubs either driving too close to them or opening your door into them.
#17
Originally Posted by Brewmaster
My guess is that your initial instinct was right. It looks like something got thrown back from your tire. I can see at least two of these scratches, it looks like the higher one is at a steeper angle.
Try to imagine the scratches extending forward, do they intersect at your tire? If so, I think you found your culprit. Much as I hate to say so, you might want to consider mud flaps.....
Try to imagine the scratches extending forward, do they intersect at your tire? If so, I think you found your culprit. Much as I hate to say so, you might want to consider mud flaps.....
Here is a zoomed in pic:
#18
Thanks for the input. Lots of vivid imaginations
sparkz:
My work parking lot is private and the spaces are large.
1hottl:
Not likely as my motion is straight down on the doors
Brewmaster:
Yes, that makes sense for most of the scratches, except a few which are at the opposite angle of about 135deg. And shouldn't the mud flaps deflect such debris.
JDM5lugHatch:
No zippers, no laptops, no shrubs
terse:
I just noticed 1 on my right-rear panel on Sunday's washing, but
My main concern is why all in the same general area, over time. They did not occur at once. My suspicion was bad paint on the driver's side doors, and wanted to see if any others had similar issues.
One would think I was driving on diamond gravel, because normal city debris would not make such deep, long scratches in the paint.
sparkz:
My work parking lot is private and the spaces are large.
1hottl:
Not likely as my motion is straight down on the doors
Brewmaster:
Yes, that makes sense for most of the scratches, except a few which are at the opposite angle of about 135deg. And shouldn't the mud flaps deflect such debris.
JDM5lugHatch:
No zippers, no laptops, no shrubs
terse:
I just noticed 1 on my right-rear panel on Sunday's washing, but
My main concern is why all in the same general area, over time. They did not occur at once. My suspicion was bad paint on the driver's side doors, and wanted to see if any others had similar issues.
One would think I was driving on diamond gravel, because normal city debris would not make such deep, long scratches in the paint.
#19
well it appears that the only logical explanation would be gravel/rocks being thrown up by the tires. Like recommended earlier it looks like you are in need of mud flaps. I think they are hideous but if you get them color matched they might not be so bad. Good luck!
#21
Originally Posted by JDM5lugHatch
well it appears that the only logical explanation would be gravel/rocks being thrown up by the tires. Like recommended earlier it looks like you are in need of mud flaps. I think they are hideous but if you get them color matched they might not be so bad. Good luck!
#23
Originally Posted by angler67
That is just it, there are already mud flaps
damn your being difficult. j/k
maybe the mud flaps are causing them. I have no mud flaps and I don't believe I have any scratches either. Then again it's to f'ing cold to wash my car so I can't see them if there are any under all the salt.
Good luck though!
~Chris
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