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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Loving this Ineternet buying

I'm having a blast haggering with these guys over email. Much easier to break 'em down when they don't have you in their habitat Anyway - getting some nice deals on '06 TL's w/ Navi.......down to $32,800 - hoping to go lower.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Yeah, that is the way to go. Since the TL has no options besides NAV, I did the same thing. I called about 10 dealers (the internet managers) and simply asked "What is your price?" I was able to get my 04 TL for $500 over invoice.

It is the only way I will buy a car now.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Just a word of advice, try to deal with OTD (Out The Door) prices...this means inclusive of ALL taxes and fees that would be required....
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by webbah
I'm having a blast haggering with these guys over email. Much easier to break 'em down when they don't have you in their habitat Anyway - getting some nice deals on '06 TL's w/ Navi.......down to $32,800 - hoping to go lower.
is this price for 6MT or perhaps 5AT?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Do you guys know whether you have to pay taxes on the car if you buy it on a different state? For example, I live in Louisiana, but they only have 1 dealership in nola and 1 in baton rouge, so that doesn't leave to much option for negotiations. If I were to buy my car from TX or other states, what would happen with that? I know that Oregon (I think that's it) has no sales tax.

Thanks for your help, and sorry if the question sounds stupid.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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You usually have to pay the difference in Tax when you register the car in your home state.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mlody
is this price for 6MT or perhaps 5AT?
5AT - wish I could get a MT - but the wife.......
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by maluskills
Just a word of advice, try to deal with OTD (Out The Door) prices...this means inclusive of ALL taxes and fees that would be required....
Actually, I would disagree. I think going beyond purchase price just complicates negotiations. You also limit yourself, as some dealers don't like to do the extra math unless there's a sale, and they won't make an offer on that basis. I also think you're less likely to get the best underlying purchase price if you try to negotiate OTD price. Dealers ultimately need to "back into" a purchase price, and they're more likely to overestimate, rather than underestimate taxes/reg. fees to ensure they don't screw themselves.

Stick with purchase price only. It's simpler, and all dealers will negotiate on that basis.

And yeah, e-haggling is the way to go these days. If you're ready to buy, nobody should have to enter a dealership without a pre-negotiated price.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 03:27 AM
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Thats exactly what my dad did when he was looking to buy a new '05 TL. The dealer offered him a price of $33,700 (which was the best price offer we recieved) and when he actually went into the dealership, the salesman forgot what he originally wrote in the email and offered my dad $33,000 flat instead....so yay for online dealing
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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I did the online thing too and it was the best. I went from an initial offer price of $33,400.00 (inc dest), to a final price of $31,500.00 (inc. dest). So that is what.... about $1,300.00 under invoice....

No pressure haggling or sales. I will only buy cars this way from now on...
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Imtheweezel
Do you guys know whether you have to pay taxes on the car if you buy it on a different state? For example, I live in Louisiana, but they only have 1 dealership in nola and 1 in baton rouge, so that doesn't leave to much option for negotiations. If I were to buy my car from TX or other states, what would happen with that? I know that Oregon (I think that's it) has no sales tax.

Thanks for your help, and sorry if the question sounds stupid.
Not to mention, if you put a down payment on your car, that won't make paying your state's sales tax lower.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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I'm doing this right now on an '06 TL 5AT - have 2 dealers at $30,899, plus fees, options, taxes. Not done yet!
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Schadenfreude
I'm doing this right now on an '06 TL 5AT - have 2 dealers at $30,899, plus fees, options, taxes. Not done yet!
Where you located?
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by davenlei
I did the online thing too and it was the best. I went from an initial offer price of $33,400.00 (inc dest), to a final price of $31,500.00 (inc. dest). So that is what.... about $1,300.00 under invoice....

No pressure haggling or sales. I will only buy cars this way from now on...
is your car auto/manual, and navi/non-navi?
its really hard to go under the invoice price but going $1,300 under invoice. thats amazing.. where do you live?
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tejesh83
You usually have to pay the difference in Tax when you register the car in your home state.
So, does it mean that if i am a florida resident, which is a 7% tax state, and went to Oregon state bought a car, which is 0% tax, when i bring the car home, am i still gonna have to pay that 7% percent? if yes, then to whom/where do i pay?
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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How do you guys do the online negotiation? Do you fax or email the amount that you want to pay for the car or do you ask for an offer and you go from there?

Thanks
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mattzheng
So, does it mean that if i am a florida resident, which is a 7% tax state, and went to Oregon state bought a car, which is 0% tax, when i bring the car home, am i still gonna have to pay that 7% percent? if yes, then to whom/where do i pay?
Yep, when you go to get your Florida tag, they will "tag" you with the 7% fee (up to a certain limit I think)
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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welcome to Net shopping.
This is so 1998 LOL
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by webbah
I'm having a blast haggering with these guys over email. Much easier to break 'em down when they don't have you in their habitat Anyway - getting some nice deals on '06 TL's w/ Navi.......down to $32,800 - hoping to go lower.
When they get done quoting you the price ask them " Now how much off of the car is the internet special".

I paid an even 31 for a non navi so i am happy with my purchase, i got the internet special.
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by webbah
Where you located?
Sacramento, CA.

I just asked for a quote from the 5 closest dealers through Acura's own "find a dealer" site, and started up a spreadsheet that breaks down each charge (base, accessories, warranty, fees, tax). So far I have 3 dealers within $100 of each other.

Another tip I discovered is to first price the vehicle on my own through each dealer's website. For example, I noted the price of each accessory installed from the Parts department of Dealer X. When his quote came through, he had beat my lowest quote by $100, but then added $150 on to his own website's price to one of my accessories! I pointed this out and he quickly corrected the price, citing "miscommunication between parts and sales!".
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Good luck on the purchase Schadenfreude, sounds like you have a good plan.
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Schadenfreude
Another tip I discovered is to first price the vehicle on my own through each dealer's website. For example, I noted the price of each accessory installed from the Parts department of Dealer X. When his quote came through, he had beat my lowest quote by $100, but then added $150 on to his own website's price to one of my accessories! I pointed this out and he quickly corrected the price, citing "miscommunication between parts and sales!".
Great tip!!!
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Still some '05s out there

Yes, telling the dealers in the area (out to 100 miles or so) by phone or email that you are getting the "best price" from each one for a specific model is the way to go. On Monday I just picked up a brand new '05 TL (AT no Nav) for $29,750 (+ tax but including everything else). There are no real differences between the '05s and '06s. Also, since I keep cars for a long time (the TL is replacing a '93 Legend with 175K miles), the resale difference of one model year is insignificant. Around the Detroit area I found about 13-15 '05s still in stock.
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