sskillett

2006 Anthracite w/Nav. Sold my Quicksilver/Redhot 6spd GTO 'cause it was a POS. I regretted selling my 1997 Acura CL to buy the GTO & I missed the Acura quality. I think I'm gonna like this one. The GTO was 8 days shy of a year old.

Just wanted to give a shout out that I'm back to the forum!

Ron A

Welcome back.

And we all know you did the right thing.

Shark

Welcome back! I'm sure you'll enjoy the new ride

pzero23

welcome back and enjoy the ride

TCMS

Welcome back.

The GTO is a bad ass performer, well at least once they put the ls2 in it, but the rest of the car is junk.

cM3go

Good move and congrats!

If you could kindly remove the avatar though, we would appreciate it, it violates our NWS policy

Teh Jatt

welcome

mickey3c

LOL the quality is not what it was in 97... Well I guess you will live and learn... but a goat is not something you can drive day to day forever. lol

Ol Blue Eyes

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welcome back

mkaresh

I know I've posted on this forum that many people here put too much emphasis on US vs. Japan...but so far three cars built in Australia have been sold in the US, and at least two of them (Mercury Capri and GTO) have lacked in the quality department. I'm not sure about the late 1990s Mitsubishi Diamante. Then again, this is a rather small sample size.

ttliang

welcome back. that red/black combo on ur ex GTO leather is hot. i wish TL has that combo.

special-ed

what counts is now you have the beautiful 3rd gen AND you still have your kick-ass 66'!

GNN60GT500

cool....

another muscle car to TL owner here (well new muscle car)

what made you go away from the GTO?

what kind of problems did you have?

fast-tl

^^Good question. I was also wondering. Coming from a 97 Z28, I know that GM HAS to build those cars well, since they're good to 150+ mph. And why stick the Vette engine in what is otherwise a POS? I think he simply may have had a lemon, not that the rest of the car is junk. I don't buy that part.

sskillett

Yeah, the interior in the GTO was awesome (cosmetically), the fit & finish were OK. The issues I had with the car overshadowed the sweet interior, though. See my answer below.

sskillett

Yes I do have the '66, but it needs a total resto & will take a few years to complete. It is a North Carolina car with NO rust that has been in a PA garage since 1985. The interior is rough, but everything else is good. I have the whole chassis restored with the 389 tri power + 4 spd, & the body is on it, but still alot of work to go.

ImRichBiatch!

the tl is a luxury sedan daily driver type vehicle not a race car.. and for those who try to race the TL your kidding yourself front wheel drive only gets you so far. good move there buddy the TL looks at least 3 times better. im about to get a TL to compliment my twin turbo g35.. one for when i want to get crazy and one to just chill and drive smooth. the TL is a great car

sskillett

I don't wanna rant, but here goes...

since it was new with 14 miles on it:

the driver's seat track broke twice (I only weigh 230, so I don't think it is me - besides the only time it has to be moved is to put something in the back seat) as nobody else drives the car

The guage cluster flashed bright/dark intermittantly

The radio turned up/down on its own

the horn blew going around turns

the "overheat" message displayed on the IP cluster when the car is started in the morning

The exhaust rattled

the front bumper never fit correctly

the clutch would not fully disengage, causing the car to move when putting it in gear with the clutch fully depressed

The paint was falling off of the hood, front fenders, and a spot on the roof.

The brake rotors were warped (car was babied, not really driven hard enough for warped rotors)

Tires wearing badly

The car was not as fast as it should have been - the 6 spd supposedly has a computer controlled torque management that retards the timing when it wants to.

It did not handle all that well.

It was a GM

The last one sealed the deal. When the paint started peeling, I took it to a local dealer that claimed the car was repainted (actually wrecked) and that is why the paint is peeling. I then contacted Pontiac to tell them with all of these issues & the fact that a dealer (actually 2 dealers) told me it may have been wrecked before. Pontiac just kept stringin' me out & pissing me off by not doing anything about it. My dealer knew I wanted the car replaced & couldn't help. For 2 months, Pontiac couldn't provide ananswer, just kept saying "sir we are doing the best we can". I then decided to just get it fixed & sell it. But the dealer told me they were just going to mask it off, sand it down & repaint it. I wouldn't accept this. I wanted the panels removed, stripped & repainted. I even tried to get another dealer to do this. They wouldn't touch it. It is like this car was black flagged. Here, I have a $33,000 car that has never been right since day one & nobody can give me an answer as to how it is going to be fixed.

This is not to mention the panels & parts that were broke when the car was serviced at the dealer, then they tell me this is the 1st "GTO " they worked on & it is a learning experience for them. I tried another dealer & it was the same story.

I bought a "new" car, not a "repaired" car. The car was never going to be right.
All in all, I decided that my $30+K would be better spent on another car.


So when I had all of these problems, I parked the car & bought a 1995 Acura Integra with (at that time) 185,000 miles on it for $2500. Funny that it had less things wrong with it than my "new" $33K GTO. I decided to sell the GTO and buy another Honda product - so here I am.

ndx2

Wow, that's some bad luck with the GTO. If certain TL owners here had the problems you had, we would not hear the end of it.

Congrats on the new ride. Hopefully your TL will be as problem-free as mine - or at least less problematic than that GTO.

Lister00169

^^^

Ouch, Ouch and OUCH! Good thing you switched before the GTO took a major depreciation hit.

ttliang

i can only imagine the pain. sorry to hear that.

but these 3 just freaked me out. instead of going to the dealer, you shoulda looked for a good pastor or something.

skyy406

congrats!

nitehawk23

welcome to the family from Sean. sorry to hear ur GTO had these secret problems. Still i like the GTO shes a nice car.....enjoy your ur new car

jmbnova

Hey there.... That was your other post that I read about those losers over on the GTO forum right? Glad you are rid of them and with us now...

sskillett

Yep... that was me. I wasn't trying to start a "bash fest" between the A-zine & GTO peeps, so I apologize if that's how it looked. Thanks!

Will Y.

I looked at a 2004 GTO before getting the TL; the dealership couldn't get rid of the 2004 GTOs even at $24K. The dealership is now advertising the 2006 GTO at $28K (about $4K below MSRP??), but stories like yours do give one pause regarding GM vehicles, particularly to those of us who have only one primary car.
Hope you have much better luck w/the TL than the GTO.
My TL has been great so far, like the other Honda/Acura vehicles I've had-- three visits to dealer for warranty issues spead over 4 vehicles in 18 years. At least the TL is assembled here in the US!

jmbnova

I thought so.. that was freaking hilarious.... Those guys are all idiots.... You will be treated better here I'm sure....

SebringSilver

Ironic, isn't it? The Acura is the domestic car and the Pontiac is an import.

Go figure.

Boardman

Congrat's on getting ride of "the general junk" and findin' your way back . I am about to do the same. I'm dumping my GM that I paid a fortune for as like you I have a laundry list of stuff that is wrong with the car yet GM sees no problem or has no solution yet. Nice. In any case, I'm looking forward to joinin' ya over here on the TL side in about a month as soon as things get settled MY piece of "general junk" lol!