It's gone but hardly forgotten
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It's gone but hardly forgotten
Both a sad and a happy day was Friday, September 25. I let my beloved 2004 TL 6MT go and took delivery of a 2016 Audi S4 6MT that I ordered on June 30. Audi is no longer accepting orders for 2016 S4's with manual transmissions and my salesman told me I very well may have gotten one built in the last production run for those transmissions.
This was one of the hardest decisions I have ever had to take in my car purchasing experience. But it's gone now and if this frigging rain and wetness ever stops, I can take the new machine out for some more driving.
This was one of the hardest decisions I have ever had to take in my car purchasing experience. But it's gone now and if this frigging rain and wetness ever stops, I can take the new machine out for some more driving.
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Let's see some pics
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Congrats! That is one car I would love to have one day! Gotta put some pics up though
Thanks for your help through all the years, when I first got my car back in 2008 you always had helpful posts and responses!
Looking forward to seeing the car and your thoughts
Thanks for your help through all the years, when I first got my car back in 2008 you always had helpful posts and responses!
Looking forward to seeing the car and your thoughts
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congratulations! nice choice
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Wow! Congrats
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As for pics, I don't use a hosting service. So if there is a way that I can post pics from my camera on this site, I'll do it. I took a few when it was in the new car delivery bay last week on the day I took delivery.
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Initial impressions...
Using Audi's Drive Select and setting the mode to dynamic produces fantastic throttle response, which I love. It also tightens up the steering and firms up the suspension a bit.
Torque is the first thing that hits you. There is gobs of it right off idle and throughout the power band. Same for the horsepower.
The clutch is VERY forgiving... nothing like the touchy TL clutch. Clutch pedal travel is longer than that of the TL but very predictable. The shifter feels great in the hand and the throws are acceptably short (not too short). There is some notchiness, probably due to the longitudinal engine layout (more direct and precise).
The car is super loaded with features and techie bells and whistles. Gonna take some time to get used to it all.
The engine is a 183 cubic inch (3.0 liter) 90 degree V6 topped by a supercharger with two intercoolers. Audi rates it at 333 HP and 325 ft/lbs of torque. Now if you so some research, you'll see that those numbers are dyno pull wheel numbers, not at the flywheel. And since it is an AWD, the parasitic loss is probably over 20% which puts the horsepower well over 400 and the torque close behind. And when you consider that the car weighs close to 3900 pounds and manages a 4.4 0-60 second run with a quarter mile of 12.9 seconds at 109.8 MPH, the reported numbers don't hack it. Trust me, it is quick.
Overall, a near perfect mix of luxury and performance. What's not to like. As a postscript, BMW apparently has discontinued the 335i and now has its replacement; the 340i. Looks like a great car.
Using Audi's Drive Select and setting the mode to dynamic produces fantastic throttle response, which I love. It also tightens up the steering and firms up the suspension a bit.
Torque is the first thing that hits you. There is gobs of it right off idle and throughout the power band. Same for the horsepower.
The clutch is VERY forgiving... nothing like the touchy TL clutch. Clutch pedal travel is longer than that of the TL but very predictable. The shifter feels great in the hand and the throws are acceptably short (not too short). There is some notchiness, probably due to the longitudinal engine layout (more direct and precise).
The car is super loaded with features and techie bells and whistles. Gonna take some time to get used to it all.
The engine is a 183 cubic inch (3.0 liter) 90 degree V6 topped by a supercharger with two intercoolers. Audi rates it at 333 HP and 325 ft/lbs of torque. Now if you so some research, you'll see that those numbers are dyno pull wheel numbers, not at the flywheel. And since it is an AWD, the parasitic loss is probably over 20% which puts the horsepower well over 400 and the torque close behind. And when you consider that the car weighs close to 3900 pounds and manages a 4.4 0-60 second run with a quarter mile of 12.9 seconds at 109.8 MPH, the reported numbers don't hack it. Trust me, it is quick.
Overall, a near perfect mix of luxury and performance. What's not to like. As a postscript, BMW apparently has discontinued the 335i and now has its replacement; the 340i. Looks like a great car.
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congrats buddy
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As for pics, I don't use a hosting service. So if there is a way that I can post pics from my camera on this site, I'll do it.
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I saw your PM. Please respond.
BTW, you got a good one. Hopefully you've read my writeups about operating a manual transmission and will treat it accordingly. It still has the original clutch (it should after only 112,000 miles) and the original rear brake pads. The front pads are Rotex Kevlar Golds to reduce the dusting so common with Brembo brakes.
BTW, you got a good one. Hopefully you've read my writeups about operating a manual transmission and will treat it accordingly. It still has the original clutch (it should after only 112,000 miles) and the original rear brake pads. The front pads are Rotex Kevlar Golds to reduce the dusting so common with Brembo brakes.
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SouthernBoy, Congrats! Very nice replacement to the 3G!
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Excellent choice! It seems to me a lot of people trade in their Acura for an Audi.
And yes it's amazing what they can do with a little engine. Hell even the 2.0 TFSI's can be chipped to add 100hp/100ft lbs. Which blows my mind.
And yes it's amazing what they can do with a little engine. Hell even the 2.0 TFSI's can be chipped to add 100hp/100ft lbs. Which blows my mind.
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I watched a couple of videos of a tuned S4 blowing away a Dodge Charger Hellcat. That's crazy.
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Yep. I've had my eye on S5s for over three years now. Once the 2013+ coupes start filling the CPO pages I will be getting one. Which is a SCed 3.0 not too far removed from your turboed 3.0. Most of the tuning numbers are about the same.
Did you opt for the sport differential or are they standard on the MT?
Did you opt for the sport differential or are they standard on the MT?
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Yep. I've had my eye on S5s for over three years now. Once the 2013+ coupes start filling the CPO pages I will be getting one. Which is a SCed 3.0 not too far removed from your turboed 3.0. Most of the tuning numbers are about the same.
Did you opt for the sport differential or are they standard on the MT?
Did you opt for the sport differential or are they standard on the MT?
Audi is going to go the route of turbo charging their 2017 S4's but the 2016's are still using their supercharger.
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The Audi is an ideal replacement for the TL, and the stick shift and clutch probably feel much better than that on the BMW 3-series.
Don't be a stranger-- many of us are over in the Car Talk and Ramblings sub-forums.
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Nice choice. Colour combo?
I loved driving those things at work. Driving stick in those things are pretty easy although the shifter was kind of disappointing. It was weird when I first got in my TL & a bit over two weeks to drive the TL smoothly. Phenomenal driving dynamics & the engines a real gem!
Congrats on the upgrade
I loved driving those things at work. Driving stick in those things are pretty easy although the shifter was kind of disappointing. It was weird when I first got in my TL & a bit over two weeks to drive the TL smoothly. Phenomenal driving dynamics & the engines a real gem!
Congrats on the upgrade
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Nice choice. Colour combo?
I loved driving those things at work. Driving stick in those things are pretty easy although the shifter was kind of disappointing. It was weird when I first got in my TL & a bit over two weeks to drive the TL smoothly. Phenomenal driving dynamics & the engines a real gem!
Congrats on the upgrade
I loved driving those things at work. Driving stick in those things are pretty easy although the shifter was kind of disappointing. It was weird when I first got in my TL & a bit over two weeks to drive the TL smoothly. Phenomenal driving dynamics & the engines a real gem!
Congrats on the upgrade
I don't look at the S4 as an upgrade over my TL but rather more like a change. Believe me, I agonized over this for well over a year. Two weeks before it came in I was seriously thinking of backing out and keeping the TL because I loved that TL so much. Very difficult decision for me to take.
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What's the path to Car Talk and Ramblings? It's been quite a while since I have been on that forum.
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Ahh sorry I thought they had already made that jump on the '16s. The CAKAs are strong!
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I've never driven a BMW with a manual transmission so I know squat about its characteristics. How is a manual BMW to drive? I have to say, their new 340i looks great on the web.
What's the path to Car Talk and Ramblings? It's been quite a while since I have been on that forum.
What's the path to Car Talk and Ramblings? It's been quite a while since I have been on that forum.
See above post for links to Car Talk and Ramblings.
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I got Daytona Grey Pearl with the Fine Black Nappa interior. I don't like the multi-toned interiors at all. And the Alcantara seats, which is the standard interior, don't work with me. I really loved the Anthracite exterior color on my TL so I wanted to stay close to that. And the all black interior just goes so well with it. Understated and nice.
I don't look at the S4 as an upgrade over my TL but rather more like a change. Believe me, I agonized over this for well over a year. Two weeks before it came in I was seriously thinking of backing out and keeping the TL because I loved that TL so much. Very difficult decision for me to take.
I don't look at the S4 as an upgrade over my TL but rather more like a change. Believe me, I agonized over this for well over a year. Two weeks before it came in I was seriously thinking of backing out and keeping the TL because I loved that TL so much. Very difficult decision for me to take.
Very true, sometimes you just need a change. I've driven every single Audi in the current line-up & most don't do it for me but the S4 was an exception & I fell in-love with it. For the class of vehicle it is in, it's the best choice imo. Hope it serves you well in the years to come
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I say "Pictures or it didn't happen"..........
Congrats dude.
Congrats dude.
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