has anyone with an ampd emblem gotten pulled over for it??

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Jun 9, 2010 | 10:13 PM
  #1  
I was driving home today and a cop pulled me over because of the blue light coming from my ampd emblem...he said its illegal for any red or blue light to shine from a car...I tried researching this law and found nothing for the rear of the car forbidding blue or red light emitance unless it is flashing, which is obvious...at the same point if this supposed law is in affect, why do people have blue HID head and fog lights...any info on this would be great!
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Jun 9, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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HID's fitted to a car that did not come with them from the factory is also illegal. I thought it was common knowledge that no civilian vehicle should emit red or blue lights as it could be mistaken for an emergency vehicle. I'm sure it's someplace in a V&T book, but I don't have one myself. Will ask a cop friend next time I see him in a day or two.
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Jun 9, 2010 | 10:26 PM
  #3  
I would give you a ticket for you amp'd emblem because it just looks silly.
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Jun 9, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Lol werd. Maybe this is a sign that it needs to be removed?
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Jun 9, 2010 | 10:37 PM
  #5  
Look into it, im not sure it depends on where you are, my dad said he wouldnt give a ticket for it. But that dosnt mean its not illegal. Even if it is, pop the stock one in, go to the station say u replaced it and they will reduce the ticket and then put it back on.
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Jun 9, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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Quote: i would give you a ticket for you amp'd emblem because it just looks silly.
+1
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Jun 9, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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I got pulled over for having blue license plate LED's when I tried them out for a bit.
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Jun 10, 2010 | 01:08 AM
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I was given a ticket for white rear blinkers. No one gets a ticket when they don't use their blinker, but I get one because it's white? I guess it all depends on the mood of the officer.
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Jun 10, 2010 | 01:23 AM
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Quote: I was given a ticket for white rear blinkers. No one gets a ticket when they don't use their blinker, but I get one because it's white? I guess it all depends on the mood of the officer.
Its very simple...White like your headlights signify the FRONT of the car and Red/Amber signify the REAR of the car
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Jun 10, 2010 | 01:34 AM
  #10  
Red for the rear and white for the front should be fine. No blue or red in the front as they are reserved for emergency vehicles only. Also nothing except for red or amber in the rear.
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Jun 10, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Quote: Its very simple...White like your headlights signify the FRONT of the car and Red/Amber signify the REAR of the car
You missed my point.
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Jun 10, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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Quote: +1
+2. they look silly.
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Jun 10, 2010 | 11:50 AM
  #13  
Quote: Its very simple...White like your headlights signify the FRONT of the car and Red/Amber signify the REAR of the car
Actually, white in the rear signifies the car is going in reverse.
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Jun 10, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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OP, What state are you in?
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Jun 10, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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Quote: Actually, white in the rear signifies the car is going in reverse.
Exactly so if a person was coming behind you and saw white lights they would think that you were backing up so then they would stop short and then get rear ended. I realize that is a worse case senario but it sure whould suck to be responsibe for all that mess behind you.
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Jun 10, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Quote: Exactly so if a person was coming behind you and saw white lights they would think that you were backing up so then they would stop short and then get rear ended. I realize that is a worse case senario but it sure whould suck to be responsibe for all that mess behind you.
Realistically, it's not much different than the license plate light. In fact, it's a bit less bright. Your statement is an exaggeration.
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Jun 10, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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Quote: Red for the rear and white for the front should be fine. No blue or red in the front as they are reserved for emergency vehicles only. Also nothing except for red or amber in the rear.
What he said is indeed correct for most states. Of course there are variances state to state.

Tails have to have red for brakes, red or amber for signals. Front has to have colors close to white for headlights and amber for signals. Aftermarket HID are illegal. You are required to have amber reflectors front and red in the back. White JDM/Euro ones are technically not legal. Smoked overlays are not legal either.

Cops hardly ever look for all these requirements (Hence why you can bend the rules like with cleared headlights, white reflectors, light smoke overlays and 6000K HIDs) You can get away with red, white or amber on a rear Amp'd emblem and white or amber on the front. Green and blue may pose problems depending on the cop. But see what code he got you under and look up the law. Read it carefully and literally and get the DA to drop the ticket.

Honestly it is such a subtle mod I wonder how they notice it. Don't take the emblem off as someone suggested, why would you do that? Simply disconnect it, try to get them to drop the ticket and then reconnect it.

It's when you do something that looks blatant...like white rear signals, strobes or anything that blinks. ANYTHING blue on the exterior on the car is a cop magnet. They will pull U-turns and chase you down for it. It's not just that they think of it as for emergency response vehicles, they consider it a distraction for a driver following you who won't pay attention to the road. They just don't like blue. They think it has to be reserved just for them, they are jealous, lol. But the LAW has to support the ticket, look it up.

BTW all these people who don't have the emblem are dissing it as usual. I don't think there is anyone who has the emblem who has regrets. It looks great in person, you have to see it before you knock it.
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Jun 11, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Quote: BTW all these people who don't have the emblem are dissing it as usual. I don't think there is anyone who has the emblem who has regrets. It looks great in person, you have to see it before you knock it.
Totally agree with this!
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Jun 11, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Nope no regrets and I have never been pulled over for it, however mine is red and goes with the taillights.
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Jun 11, 2010 | 02:16 PM
  #20  
Really, the lighting on these are subtle-more like accent lighting. I've got a red logo on the trunk from Amp'd Emblems. I like it-it doesn't blatantly stand out and they kind of look like they are OEM-for the most part.

If you get pulled over for it, I've got to think it's just a cop that's bored and looking for any excuse to pull someone over.
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Jun 11, 2010 | 05:09 PM
  #21  
Speeding is illegal...
OK. Here is my take. I have a blue Amp'd Emblem on my car. It has been there for over a year now. No pull overs. I have been in front of the police a few times driving down the highway.

As most of you know, the light is subtle. I am shocked that a cop would pull you over for just this...but anyway...the laws, in my opinion, are so that a car, is not mistaken for a POLICE vehicle, or an EMERGENCY vehicle. Common sense right? The laws have to do with lights...shining at you....like red or blue blinding flashing lights. The laws were not written since the technology of BACKLIGHTING an emblem has come into play, and therefore, in my non legal opinion, DO NOT APPLY.

Do we really think this could be mistaken for a cop? And if it's on the BACK of a car.....is the Amp'd Emblem owner trying to pull over a car that is BEHIND him? Paleeeeeze.

I doubt any lawyer couldn't get this thrown out of court in a second. Hell, the judge might even want one
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Jun 11, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Quote: I was driving home today and a cop pulled me over because of the blue light coming from my ampd emblem...he said its illegal for any red or blue light to shine from a car..
Did he let you go? Or give you a ticket?
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Jun 11, 2010 | 05:51 PM
  #23  
Quote: Did he let you go? Or give you a ticket?
I plead my case to him, basically exactly what you said in your previous post and he let me go with a warning...I'm not removing it because I think he was out looking for a hit and run or something and my car matched the description of what they were looking for because there were a ton of cops in the area that night...

It was quite possibly the biggest waste of my time ever...as states in previous posts, who the hell is going to think there's a cop car in front of them because of a faint blue light on a car, especially one not blinking...
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Jun 11, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Florida Chapter on prohibited lights. I will pull someone over for this. 99% of the time...i give warnings and tell them to turn it off. the other 1% its a smartmouth ricer kid that gets the ticket. In Florida, you can display blue/flashing/stobes while the car is PARKED. Once you put it in drive and move
its a violation.



316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.-- (1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided. (2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


Link for the full chapter:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...16/Sec2397.HTM
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Jun 11, 2010 | 07:36 PM
  #25  
Quote: Realistically, it's not much different than the license plate light. In fact, it's a bit less bright. Your statement is an exaggeration.

Aaaaaaand thats why i said WORST CASE SENARIO not a likely situation.
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Jun 12, 2010 | 01:36 AM
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Quote: Florida Chapter on prohibited lights. I will pull someone over for this. 99% of the time...i give warnings and tell them to turn it off. the other 1% its a smartmouth ricer kid that gets the ticket. In Florida, you can display blue/flashing/stobes while the car is PARKED. Once you put it in drive and move
its a violation.



316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.-- (1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided. (2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


Link for the full chapter:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...16/Sec2397.HTM
With most of my friends being in the local PD or CHP, I know they always use little things like this to pull a suspect car over for bigger things. If the car got pulled over for something as little as a blue backlit emblem I have to ask how the person was driving before he was pulled over...
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Jun 12, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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Sorry might go a lil OT here but:

Quote: Florida Chapter on prohibited lights. I will pull someone over for this. 99% of the time...



316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.-- (1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided. (2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


Link for the full chapter:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...16/Sec2397.HTM


If you read the law literally then you can't have the light visible from FRONT. A rear Amp'd emblem doesn't fall under this then. The ticket would be inappropriate.

Whoever pleads guilty and pays is taken advantage of only because they didn't know the law. The law doesn't care if you are not aware of the law. Officers know this and hand out tickets they know may not be accurate but they are banking that people will either be intimidated, they don't know their rights or they just pay up to avoid hassles.

When I get pulled over I get cited all the time for things that don't hold water. As politely as I can, I'll try to talk to the officer. He usually isn't having it. I don't complain because I know I can take it to court. 9 times out of 10 I get it dropped at court because I look up the law and they throw it out.

Long time ago I actually paid a ticket. I was 16 yrs. old and didn't know how any of this worked. I paid a couple other tickets because I knew I was guilty. I paid up. The rest of the time I was truly not guilty. They always try to make me plea-bargain too. I tell them, "I plead not guilty and I know I'm not. Why would I plea?" They'll intimidate you again by saying this that yada yada. Know you're rights. Prove your case.

Quote: I know they always use little things like this to pull a suspect car over for bigger things.
That is exactly true. It is the reason my car gets pulled over. Cops stare me down all the time, they hate my car. I get pulled over at SPEED traps! I leave my Valentine one up to show the cop I KNOW I wasn't speeding. If the dude is there to catch speeders and he knows I am not speeding/on a cell phone etc. Why stop me. I am driving safe at the limit with the flow of traffic. But they want to always ask questions...."Is this YOUR car? Are your papers straight? If I run your registration I'm not going to find anything, right? Where you coming from? Where you going to?" They'll try peeking in my back seat, putting the flashlight in my eyes. WTF? I know how people don't like bringing up the "race card" but how does that make you feel?? If I was in a Corolla would I be stopped?? Where is the probable cause for any of this behavior. They find nothing.......so they look at my car for equipment violations.....then they give me a TINT ticket even though I am from out of state?? LOL! Yeah OK.

OK back on topic now.....just had to vent, lol.
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Jun 12, 2010 | 12:29 PM
  #28  
Sounds like a good argument to go with the white, it's harder to see. lol.

OR, wire into a kill switch and turn it OFF when in question. Problem solved.
Trust me, I concur with all that own one...all it takes is some faith, or seeing in person to know that you don't know what you're talking about if you knock this mod.
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Jun 12, 2010 | 01:40 PM
  #29  
Rocky....very good points. Thank you.
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Jun 12, 2010 | 02:09 PM
  #30  
[quote=rockyfeller;12090164]Sorry might go a lil OT here but:

If you read the law literally then you can't have the light visible from FRONT. A rear Amp'd emblem doesn't fall under this then. The ticket would be inappropriate. /quote]


Your from NY right? You realize the law I put up is for Florida right?
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Jun 12, 2010 | 03:18 PM
  #31  
[QUOTE/]That is exactly true. It is the reason my car gets pulled over. Cops stare me down all the time, they hate my car. I get pulled over at SPEED traps! I leave my Valentine one up to show the cop I KNOW I wasn't speeding. If the dude is there to catch speeders and he knows I am not speeding/on a cell phone etc. Why stop me. I am driving safe at the limit with the flow of traffic. But they want to always ask questions...."Is this YOUR car? Are your papers straight? If I run your registration I'm not going to find anything, right? Where you coming from? Where you going to?" They'll try peeking in my back seat, putting the flashlight in my eyes. WTF? I know how people don't like bringing up the "race card" but how does that make you feel?? If I was in a Corolla would I be stopped?? Where is the probable cause for any of this behavior. They find nothing.......so they look at my car for equipment violations.....then they give me a TINT ticket even though I am from out of state?? LOL! Yeah OK.

OK back on topic now.....just had to vent, lol.[/QUOTE]

Exactly...funny too, the cop did and said all of that...speaking of out of state tickets, I'm from mass and I was driving home from new york and a ny state trooper pulled me over on a main highway for going 73 in a 65 and there were people clearly speeding by me, but profiling my car I got pulled over...the guy gave me a "ticket" with no dollar figure on it, so when I asked how much I owe he said he didn't know...it was complete BS...
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Jun 12, 2010 | 05:11 PM
  #32  
Quote: Florida Chapter on prohibited lights. I will pull someone over for this. 99% of the time...i give warnings and tell them to turn it off. the other 1% its a smartmouth ricer kid that gets the ticket. In Florida, you can display blue/flashing/stobes while the car is PARKED. Once you put it in drive and move
its a violation.



316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.-- (1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided. (2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


Link for the full chapter:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...16/Sec2397.HTM
Expected that response from a Florida cop, there are so many of them they have nothing to do.
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Jun 12, 2010 | 05:23 PM
  #33  
Quote: With most of my friends being in the local PD or CHP, I know they always use little things like this to pull a suspect car over for bigger things.
This.
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Jun 13, 2010 | 12:13 AM
  #34  
[QUOTE=andURpoint;12090347]
Quote: Sorry might go a lil OT here but:

If you read the law literally then you can't have the light visible from FRONT. A rear Amp'd emblem doesn't fall under this then. The ticket would be inappropriate. /quote]


Your from NY right? You realize the law I put up is for Florida right?
Uh, yes officer; I quoted from the exact text you put up about FL law. The part I am talking about I highlighted in red. I am not referring to NY state law. The NY counterpart for the same law more or less words it very closely to that anyways though. I've looked it up before.

Regardless you said you think it would still be legitimate to ticket someone based on this law. Well I don't agree. Moreover it won't stick in court with a legit judge who goes according to the book. And even if it did by some chance I'd still appeal.

It's just an emblem after all. That's the reality of the situation. As Amp'd said there is no law covering the new technology so the attempt is to stretch the law to blanket situations like this. I doubt much safety is jeopardized and life is lost over this. lol. Admit it. It's just to make the state some money. IMO cops have to chill with the tickets and pulling over honest, hard-working Americans over extremely petty violations. It is extremely inefficient and yields nothing useful. I may sound like a bitter cop-hater but it's not true. I actually have a ton of friends in the NYPD. We need our cops to protect and serve. We need that feeling of security. We have real crimes and law-breakers who need the cuffs. I wish there was restructuring to direct more manpower towards that.

Take drive through North Jersey and you will see cops trolling everywhere on top of each other with their ticket clipboards ready.
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Jun 13, 2010 | 06:22 AM
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Quote: Florida Chapter on prohibited lights....


316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.-- (1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided. (2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.
Quote: If you read the law literally then you can't have the light visible from FRONT. A rear Amp'd emblem doesn't fall under this then. The ticket would be inappropriate.
If you read the whole law literally, and not just what the OP highlighted in red, then you find you can't have the blue light at all, and the blue amp'd emblem does fall under this rule.
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Jun 13, 2010 | 07:41 AM
  #36  
I have to agree with Rocky. IMO. Old law, new technology. Trying to stretch an old law to fit something that doesn't apply.

In most jobs in life, and throughout life in general. The OVER RIDDING LAW to apply BEFORE ALL ELSE.......is........COMMON SENSE. ( Caution, contents of this stupid coffee cup are HOT.) PLEASE!!

The common sense law fails here. Common sense says this law is to prevent a car from believing another vehicle is a police vehicle or an emergency vehicle. Again, do we really think, that some vehicle with a hint of a blue light, backlighting an emblem, IN THE REAR, could possibly be a police vehicle? Seriously? When was the last time a police vehicle pulled someone over that was behind them?

Common sense people.
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Jun 13, 2010 | 08:16 AM
  #37  
Quote: I have to agree with Rocky. IMO. Old law, new technology. Trying to stretch an old law to fit something that doesn't apply.

In most jobs in life, and throughout life in general. The OVER RIDDING LAW to apply BEFORE ALL ELSE.......is........COMMON SENSE. ( Caution, contents of this stupid coffee cup are HOT.) PLEASE!!

The common sense law fails here. Common sense says this law is to prevent a car from believing another vehicle is a police vehicle or an emergency vehicle. Again, do we really think, that some vehicle with a hint of a blue light, backlighting an emblem, IN THE REAR, could possibly be a police vehicle? Seriously? When was the last time a police vehicle pulled someone over that was behind them?

Common sense people.
nothing against you amp'd, but of course you will defend something you're marketing. think of this with some common sense, can the law really be amended every time somebody comes up with a popular idea that doesn't fit in with the regulations already in place? do you really think lawmakers are reading acurazine, see your thread, and start discussing how blue amp'd emblems should be excluded from law xxxx-xxx because they're blue but they look cool?

no, if the law says no blue lights, and you have a blue light on your car, you are breaking the law. unfortunately unless you're a lawmaker you simply just have to abide by the laws they write. if you don't like it, you can break them, but you run the risk.

again, i personally think amp'd emblems are a great idea, and in general they look pretty good, but i don't think they are big enough to amend a law for.
i also don't agree with a lot of laws, i'm just being reasonable enough to understand the process.
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Jun 13, 2010 | 08:25 AM
  #38  
the only argument I see here is squashed with a white led amp'd emblem. Easy.

lowered cars, dark tints, loud bass...
it's all the sh*t we love and it's all the excuse a cop needs to pull us over.

Will we stop doing it, no...so why are we arguing over semantics? Being right in a discussion with your wife/gf is priceless. Being right on the interwebz seems pretty worthless to me.
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Jun 13, 2010 | 11:52 AM
  #39  
cops identify their motorcycle officers from behind by the small blue reflectors on the license plate- reserved for their use
(family members will put 1 blue dot on in hopes of beating tickets-but you better have a good story where you got the dot from if stopped...!my brother works South Central!)

federal law dicates what primary head/tail lighting is legal
modifying pretty much anything from stock changes it from its Fed safety testing and is for `off road use only`
from headlights to suspension to funky taillights...no `DOT approved` on the lens means its not ~legal~ for street use

bright white in the back (say from broken lens) looks like a drunk drivers headlight coming at you- thats a major problem everywhere....fully cover any lens- they make tape sold at parts stores

crooks get a strobe or blue/reds for the dash and pull people over- rob them - kill them- rape them-
you may or may not get to choose the order~

lets keep the confusion down to a minimum please
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Jun 13, 2010 | 12:14 PM
  #40  
Quote: the only argument I see here is squashed with a white led amp'd emblem. Easy.

lowered cars, dark tints, loud bass...
it's all the sh*t we love and it's all the excuse a cop needs to pull us over.

Will we stop doing it, no...so why are we arguing over semantics? Being right in a discussion with your wife/gf is priceless. Being right on the interwebz seems pretty worthless to me.
So true.... you sir have earned a sig worthy quote for a week.
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