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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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I know there's probably no need for Gumout Fuel System Cleaner for our newer TLs, but I'm wondering the following:

1. Has anyone used it in their TLs? If so, how was the experience?
2. Has anyone used it in a much older car, like say a 1995 or something? I'm asking because I'm wondering just how much it would help... Also it would be good to know this once my TL does get past 7 or so years old...

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Old May 25, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Actually- if you buy cheap "big box store" type gas- you need fuel cleaner all the time
IN just 5000 miles crud is built up on the valve stems and body- not good
Use of Seafoam $8 (gen 2- Seafoamed the Ol TL) will cure buildup in the intake and injectors

Some prefer regular use of name brands like Lucas or Redline- just use something every 5000 and keep car running best.
Gas prices what they are- anything I can do to make better combustion is the right thing to do!
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Old May 26, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Yeah... Well I tend to buy Unocal 76 for the 1995 car that I have... I wonder if I should convert to Shell or Chevron...
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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i tried checking around to see how we would seafoam the 3rd gen TL. I have not found anything on how to do the procedure. do you guys know how to?
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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find a vacuum line and pour it in there. I haven't looked under the hood of my TL under great scrutiny but there should be a big brake line near your brake booster.

Additionally Sea Foam can be added to the gas tank or to the oil.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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I have 32000 miles on my 2005 TL, and i have used Gumout and Techcron few times. but i don't feel any difference after adding those cleaners. i don't know the reason why i can't see any change is because my TL's system is clean, or they simply don't work. by the way, i always use Mobil or Shell gas.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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The problem is people dont read the super fine print on those products so they dont work at pek performance- toss a bottle of techroline in...not good enough

Like seafoam says 1/3 can in tank of gas- except the fine print says 1 oz per gal of fuel for maitenance cleaning- 2 oz per gal for super cleaning
thats why I say 1 pint can in 1/4 tank gas

Undo the plastic covers on your gen 3 and find a vac line
have fun!
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:35 AM
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uhm.. so is gumout... like a chick with no teeth... that gave you skully?
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
uhm.. so is gumout... like a chick with no teeth... that gave you skully?
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
The problem is people dont read the super fine print on those products so they dont work at pek performance- toss a bottle of techroline in...not good enough

Like seafoam says 1/3 can in tank of gas- except the fine print says 1 oz per gal of fuel for maitenance cleaning- 2 oz per gal for super cleaning
thats why I say 1 pint can in 1/4 tank gas

Undo the plastic covers on your gen 3 and find a vac line
have fun!
01tl4tl can you give alittle more info on exactly where this is? I've done what you said is not good enough. But I've never heard of Seafoam before today.

Maybe a DIY if you need to do yours again
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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I am a gen2 owner and there is a 15 page thread Seafoamed the Ol TL in that forum
Gen 3 I am guessing similar vac line routing- so much plastic underhood for you guys I only got to the brake master I needed to find- and stopped there!

Seafoam is the exact same stuff they use in the fuel injection cleaning machines for 59-129$
Its a solvent you get right into the engine to clean valves and pistons and thru the gas tank it gets the fuel injectors to clean the spray pattern
Most of the products avaialable are similar idea- have to read things like, treats 10-21 gallons- and understand that means use min. dilution possible for best results
Going on a long trip- toss a can in the full tank- it will help that way too- the more concentrated the better
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Don't get too overly excited about fuel additives, as it even states on the Chevron site, maker of Techron, that if you use their gasoline, or I'll inject, any name brand gasoline this day and age, you won't need to use the additive.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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If you read the chevron website CLOSELY it says they only put a maitenance dose in the pump mix and if used all the time will eventually clean the system
And they say to use their full strength bottle of techroline from parts store to really clean everything first~
There are reasons we need special cleaners in our cars- its not PR BS- its a real life issue and gas is going to keep getting more expensive- especially our 91+ needs
Many similar products- seafoam is the stuff industry uses in the real machine- but it only runs fuel with cleaner in the fuel loop- missing the valve tops- which we get via the intake vac line
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
If you read the chevron website CLOSELY it says they only put a maitenance dose in the pump mix and if used all the time will eventually clean the system
And they say to use their full strength bottle of techroline from parts store to really clean everything first~
There are reasons we need special cleaners in our cars- its not PR BS- its a real life issue and gas is going to keep getting more expensive- especially our 91+ needs
Many similar products- seafoam is the stuff industry uses in the real machine- but it only runs fuel with cleaner in the fuel loop- missing the valve tops- which we get via the intake vac line
I think I read it very closely, but did add that any name brand fuel will afford the same benefits:

Q-Do I need to use Techron® Concentrate if I buy only Chevron gasoline?

A-If you're a loyal buyer of exclusively Chevron gasolines, your car very likely is delivering its best possible performance and operating at its lowest possible emissions. A bottle of Techron® Concentrate, therefore, is not likely to provide any benefits. However, if you sometimes purchase a lower quality gasoline, you should try Techron® Concentrate to quickly restore performance lost due to deposit accumulation.

Tell me that's not a marketing statement. Use our gasoline and no additive needed, but Techron will restore performance and lost power if a lower quality fuel is used. Yeah right!

Here we go again. I say it's nothing more than a waste of money using fuel additives. I've put close to 1.5 million miles on vehicles, owned a fleet of cars, and have never experienced and injector or the phenomenal engine buildup problems. How many people, if name brand fuel is used, have had an injector or valve buildup problem that sidelined their car? None that I know of. Have had an injector malfunction, but that was a mechanical failure not due to fuel quality.

Save your money!
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
I think I read it very closely, but did add that any name brand fuel will afford the same benefits:

Q-Do I need to use Techron® Concentrate if I buy only Chevron gasoline?

A-If you're a loyal buyer of exclusively Chevron gasolines, your car very likely is delivering its best possible performance and operating at its lowest possible emissions. A bottle of Techron® Concentrate, therefore, is not likely to provide any benefits. However, if you sometimes purchase a lower quality gasoline, you should try Techron® Concentrate to quickly restore performance lost due to deposit accumulation.

Tell me that's not a marketing statement. Use our gasoline and no additive needed, but Techron will restore performance and lost power if a lower quality fuel is used. Yeah right!

Here we go again. I say it's nothing more than a waste of money using fuel additives. I've put close to 1.5 million miles on vehicles, owned a fleet of cars, and have never experienced and injector or the phenomenal engine buildup problems. How many people, if name brand fuel is used, have had an injector or valve buildup problem that sidelined their car? None that I know of. Have had an injector malfunction, but that was a mechanical failure not due to fuel quality.

Save your money!


so are Mobil and Shell low quality fuels?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
How many people, if name brand fuel is used, have had an injector or valve buildup problem that sidelined their car? None that I know of. Have had an injector malfunction, but that was a mechanical failure not due to fuel quality.

Save your money!
I had a 1991 5.0 Mustang that my father owned before me. He put nothing but Shell 93 in it and so did I. After 85k we had a major problem with injector build-up. Just called my dad to see what they did to correct the issue......he told me seafoam. I guess I just want to squash the problem before it gets any further.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lembowski
I had a 1991 5.0 Mustang that my father owned before me. He put nothing but Shell 93 in it and so did I. After 85k we had a major problem with injector build-up. Just called my dad to see what they did to correct the issue......he told me seafoam. I guess I just want to squash the problem before it gets any further.
Sorry, but hard to believe it was an injector build up problem. I've owned the 5.0 supercharged Mustangs and find they are virtually indestructible, and at 85,000 miles I would question injector build up. What Seafoam treatment did he use to as you say, bring it back to optimum performance, fuel or intake application?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Let me add, that over the years I have found fuel additives to be a money maker for the manufacturers, as they just don't work miracles. Having said that, can they be harmful, no, and if one feels that the engine performs better when using the additive, all well and good.
I'll leave it there.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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To be completely honest I have no clue, I'm just relaying what I was told. You take it for what its worth to you. I'm sure it was a additive to the fuel, but the intake as well.
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