My friend and I got into a debate the other day. Suppose you're driving 65mph on the freeway and you slam your car into reverse....I feel this will instantly trash your transmission. My friend believes that the car's internal computer will not allow you to do this and the reverse "R" on the dash will just blink until you shift back into drive. Does anyone have extensive knowledge on how the car might react in this type of situation?

 

any car? or specifically the 3G TL?

In highschool, a girl would throw her Ford Ranger into Park going about 30mph.
quick way to destroy shit.

 

Well we were talking about Hondas in general but I assume bad things will happen if you do this in any car.

 

Not sure about the auto, but the MT have reverse lock out.

I'd expect the AT to have something similar.

 

^care to try?

 

Do I look blonde to you?

 

My friend swears he is right yet he doesn't want to test it in his car either...go figure.

 

Per the Owners Manual for a 2007 TL/TL-S:



http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...707O00253A.pdf


Still not gonna try it.

 

I'd think there is a reverse lockout. Interesting question though, thought about it many times before.

 

Damn't he might actually be right...lol. Yeah same here. Still not gonna try it.

 

I know that a 6MT can't do it. I tried and it just blocks the shifter from moving that far and you just shift into 6th gear.

 

someone try it and tell us how it goes

 

Oh come on, you knew it was coming

 

Good thread. I used to worry about this everytime I shift from 5-6 on the highway. It's sometimes hard to move the shifter straight down when it's in the far right position.

 

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auto tl driving over 20 mph wont be able to shift to reverse, there is a lockout for sure, and who in there damn mind would want to do or even talk about something stupid like that

 

I had a '99 ford ranger m/t truck that didn't have a reverse block like the newer M/T cars have and my brother decided to drive it and had never driven a stick before. He was driving down the road and threw it into reverse. Transmission did not drop but 3rd, 4th and 5th gears instantly shattered and Reverse didn't work (once he got it out of reverse). Needless to say, Transmission no longer did its job. Would not recommend it.

 

Fixed.

 

6 mph.

See my earlier post.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hakNx...8F4AE92BBD39CC

 

Interesting.

 

I used to own a AT 96 accord back in the day. One day I was driving out of my neighborhood and being the idiot I am, i was trying to change my shoes while I was driving and my elbow bumped the shifter from drive up into reverse as I was going about 20-25 mph.. Torn my transmission all to pieces. Not sure when they changed it to where it wont happen, but I know in that car it was possible.. Cost me about $1000 to get it fixed

 

Not sure about auto but this ^ true. The gate closes and you can only go as far as 5-6 column.

 

yea, i was paranoid about this with my 6MT until I read the owner's manual ha.

 

On my TSX (5 AT), once you pass 5 mph, you can hear a little click in the shifter (that click is the lock) and it doesn't allow you to shift into reverse. And when you are coming to a stop, you hear the click again when you reach the 5 mph mark. I assume on the TL, it's the same. Except maybe you guys don't hear that little click.

 

I tried it on my car today and I heard a huge bang and crunching metal sound. My girlfriend was behind me and she said my transmission all of a sudden shot out from under my car and she ran over it! Now I have to buy a new trans and buy her a new bumper cover dammit



Just joking

 

There's always one blonde in every crowd.

 

Fixored.

 

I've actually done it in the GN. Went to manually shift to third during a 1/4 pass and hit reverse. It locked the tires and I barely held onto it.

I've seen it happen several times. All times the trans survived and it just locked the tires. Now if I was on slicks during that pass, who knows what would happen.

One thing to think about though is how a trans brake works. It holds the car still under full throttle at the starting line by applying first and reverse at the same time. They will take a lot of abuse. I know shocking it into reverse going 60mph is a bit different than a stand still.

I had no idea the trans had a lockout above a certain mph. Good to know. I would imagine it's the same thing as the shift lock if the brake is not applied. I bet hitting the brakes would allow you to shift to reverse. Who's going to find out?

 

awhile ago... my friend(with an auto trans 94ish camry) floored it in reverse and threw it into drive and it stalled LOL

 

thats not too bad, considering it could have broken or something

 

I once threw a 95 Toyota 4Runner into park while it was still moving. Heard several clicking noises until it finally came to a stop. Car still worked fine afterwards but probably messed something up a little.

 

OK for all interested. Since 2000 (the year the TREAD act came into place) FMVSS (Federal motor vehicle safety standards) states that at any speed above 6mph an automatic trans car must not be able to shift from drive to reverse (or vise versa). Manufactures have solved this 2 ways. 1 - Lock out the trans above 6mph, 2 - If it will allow it a switch in the trans will give a signal to stall the motor.

As for the noises heard when putting a car from drive into park. There is a small pin that pops into place in one of the gears of a transmission when it is placed into park. This is what keeps the car from moving when in park. The click noise is the pin slapping in and out of the hole when the gear is still moving. And yes it will eventually stop, and yes you can damage or break the pin or the gear.

 

That's interesting on the law. One way we used to free up stuck governors on the automatics was to shift into reverse while rolling forward and forward while rolling in reverse. I guess I never went above 6mph.

The parking pawl is what you describe, it's a simple ratchet mechanism, looks like a large gear with a pawl that engages it. Usually at higher speeds the teeth of the gear knock the pawl back and keep it from engaging. It's just the sound of the pawl scraping the gear. It sounds terrible but it really doesn't do much damage unless it engages while the car is moving.

 

Many years ago, maybe 5-7 years ago. I along with my wifey, daughter, and good friend as passengers were on the 60fwy, during 5 '0' clock just before HEAVY traffic time. In a 2001 accord sedan ex. I was moving anywhere from 75mph-85mph. I was merging over quickly to avoid missing our exit. The fwy entrance before our exit was a coned off blind curve. I'd have to quickly merge over just after the cones to make my exit.

As I began to do that, I was broadsided by a car that was never there as I quadruple checked my move w/ my mirrors and visually turning my head. Anyhow it re-directed the car nose first towards the center divider. In a GOD given instant of "immeasurable talent" the counter maneuvers that followed did include driving in reverse on the fwy and slinging the car back around and into drive in a matter of seconds.

I don't know if that correlates to the discussion you and your friend held, but it is possible.

 

I shifted from drive into reverse with my Lexus is300 once while going 65mph. The car just kept driving fine but my reverse lights were on. Lexus computers are very smart. It knows that wasn't suppose to happen so it just kept going.

 

my old housemate had a bad habit of shifting into the opposite direction while the car was still moving, usually R to D.

He actually stalled it one time doing that. This is in like an 05 gen Accord coupe 4 cyl.

 

MT reverse gear isn't synchro'ed, right? So what would happen if you tried to engage reverse while traveling 65mph in say, 3rd or 4th? No lockout then.

 

If it allowed you to attempt to shift to reverse, it would probably just grind. The odds of getting it into gear are slim.

The most embarrassing manual I've driven was a Pantera. Reverse pattern and no reverse lockout. I must've looked really cool when I thought it was in first but it was in second and I nearly stalled it with a ton of people watching.

 

the auto in the TL will not go into reverse when moving forward at significant speed. the ecm will refuse the request