Sonnick

As some of you may know, my friend just recently got a red 370z 6MT. He's been driving it as much as he can to break it in (currently around 1100 miles...). Let me tell you, this thing is SEXY in person, and he has already bought the Stillen intakes lol. He hasn't installed them yet because it's a PITA job, but he will.

On to the fun...he finally had enough miles for us to play around, so we did a little bumping and grinding

1st attempt: We started from a low 1st gear roll, ~10mph. 3 honks and we're off. Even through 1st, 2nd I gain a fender and 3rd I pull to where he is on my bumper. 4th gear he starts to creep back and we shut it down. Wow!!

2nd attempt: Dig. I get the better launch and he is at my bumper at the top of 4th.

3rd attempt: 20 roll. 1st gear is even, 2nd gear I creep, 3rd creep a little more, 4th gear he is on my bumper.

He is completely stock with 1100 miles (VQs get stronger as they progress) and had a passenger. No he is not a bad driver. Yes, I was shifting like a DSG transmission

SatinSilverAV6

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Wow I didn't expect that Sonnick! Great runs! I bet as the Z breaks in a bit more it should do slightly better. Time to take your car back to the track bro!

KaMLuNg

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nice runs... isn't the Z just a heavy pig?

SatinSilverAV6

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Actually its not that heavy at all. The new 370z is lighter than the previous 350z. I looked up the curb weight and its 3232 for the base 6mt, 3278 for the touring 6MT, and 3320 for the 7AT.

Sonnick

Na the Z is actually pretty light...

Thanks Satin. My friend does weigh about 250 and the passenger prob 200, so without the passenger he would pull. And after he breaks it in more yes, he will definitely get me.

EDIT: He has the base model too, about the same weight as my car.

alexSU

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Damn bro, your car hauls ass!! Haha nice kill, I bet your buddy can't wait to get some mods installed and return the favor lol

You have a very impressive kills list Sonnick

You think you would be able to stay ahead of him if you guys go faster? Say to about 145mph or so...on a closed course of course

Sonnick

Well, he had a passenger...without the passenger the results would probably be reversed.

At higher speeds, no he would definitely get me because I have a limiter...we actually went into 5th one run on the straightest, longest road ever (basically a track), and we were dead even. But without the passenger, he would slightly pull on me at all speeds I'd assume. For me to make it that close was very surprising, yet I say it's because he had a passenger.

Once I do the 3" exhaust it should even out again without a passenger. But he will probably be doing the intakes at the same time Lol. Supposedly they make really good power.....

Monte TLS,MAX

What are your current 1/4 mile times, as I know it couldn't be the ones in your signature with you running with a 370 like that??

Sonnick

That time was run with I/Jpipe. I now have PCDs/E/Ported IM. I am also upgrading to a 3" exhaust hopefully by this weekend. With a better 60', the ET in my sig should've been 13.8 at least, but that is the best run I've had so far. I haven't been to the track with my current mods.

However, with an identical 2.249 60' I'd expect at least a 13.7. I should be able to 60' better than that, so I'm hoping for 13.5.

F23A4

Yeah, let us know what you run with the newer mods. The 14 flat @ 99mph in your sig (though you've indicated the mod level) could make some want to raise the BS flag on your victory stories involving cars that would normally destroy an otherwise stock (or even lightly modded) AV6 6MT.

Monte TLS,MAX

Exactly, thats why I asked that Sonnick that F23A4!

alexSU

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That's alot of extra weight in the 370Z, I can see why sonnick would pull ahead slightly.

Isn't the 6MT slower then the auto 370Z?

apnorm

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nice runs sonnick! definitely didn't expect the outcome though. bet you're friend didn't either!

ineedmyfixofacura

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damn, sick kill. This really makes me wanna cut my wrists for missing out on an 04 AV6 6Speed...

Monte TLS,MAX

Yes, its slightly slower than the 7spd auto.

anx1300c

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What do you weigh, Sonnick? I guess I can see it if the Z had close to 300 extra pounds of passenger and maybe a full tank of gas and Sonnick was light on gas. We're talking a good 4/10 right there. I think once he's broken in and acclimated to the car and of course driving solo it'll be a different outcome.

Sounds a little ricer, but I like to travel light on gas and even sans spare tire and tools. Coupled with the 40-50 lbs I lost with bolt ons, it puts a non-navi 6MT at a respectable weight; under 3400 lbs.

Sonnick

Well, I trapped ~101 with just I/Jpipe. I don't see why I wouldn't put on another 3mph+ with my current mods...especially after my 3" exhaust. If it was without a passenger then it'd be fishy. But considering I put down 255whp and the 370s do about 270-275 and weigh the same, it makes sense. Yea it's not all about peak power I know, but you have to remember with me in the car it's 3350. At that point his car probably weighed 3650, that's a 300lb difference.

I weigh 150lbs and had 1/2 tank of gas. I can probably get a video of us going with/without passengers or whatever, really. He has a video camera. He may have the intakes on at that point, but it's whatever. I'll try to get a vid

ANX: I have no doubt when he's riding solo that he will pull. The car isn't broken in and he had added weight, that's clearly the culprit. I was just surprised to say the least, but it actually makes sense if you think about it!

erick3

Bryan,

Good times. I believe it; mine doesn't feel any quicker than my buddies TL-S 6MT.

Dave_B

VQ powah is misleading because the powerband is so flat and long. My G felt a lot slower than my well modded 14.3@99mph 96 Maxima it replaced. I figured the G would do 14.7-14.8@95mph. On my 6th pass, my auto G did a 14.3@98mph with no power mods.

Sonnick- Your Accord better run 104mph in the heat or I'm going to have to say the Z needs a driver mod because even 3,600lb G37 sedans get 104mph traps

SatinSilverAV6

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Dave- when are you going back to the track with your mods? Im curious as to what you will run.

Im going this Friday however it is supposed to be 107 degrees here but it does start at 8PM so I am hoping it cools down some in this desert!

Sonnick

It better run 104 is right! Did you see my dyno thread?

If it doesn't trap 104 then I have no explanation of how I keep up with these cars. I may be off every once in awhile with carlengths, but not to any such of an extent that would make it false or misleading (within 1/2 car). I try to be as accurate and truthful as I can!

These runs were in fact very fair, and very close each time. It was either dead even or he was on my bumper. With 255whp and 3350lbs (w/driver), I should be @ 104 I'd think.

TylerT

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Sonnick, you need to get a short shifter kit and some aluminum shifter bushings. I know you shift fast .. but that might cut it down a little bit more.

I just installed my COR Sport shift bushings and man what a difference, very accurate and precise shifting.

SatinSilverAV6

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I would think so. If a stock AV6 6MT puts down around 215whp and can trap 98-99 stock at BEST. Then 40whp should net an extra 5MPH easy. I know with I/E/P I trapped 3MPH better on average. With the Jpipe I am expecting an extra MPH for sure at the least!

Sonnick

Funny you say that, my boy and I just installed the CT short shifter last week! It's soo much shorter! Honestly, it's a little notchy and you have to put more effort to get it in gear, but I'm used to it now. We also had to cut the carpet under the shift mechanism because it was actually hitting the carpet.

I have the Corsport bushings too, I just haven't installed them yet! Maybe tonight! Hopefully it'll stop the "moving around" in each gear. I can literally move the shifter almost 1 full inch up/down while in every gear

Satin, that's a nice improvement! I definitely need to get my hands on the pulley!

Based on my previous trap of 101 before E/PCDs/ported IM, I'm hoping for 3+mph improvement. However, I trapped anywhere from 97.5 to 98.9, then 100.82 on the 3 separated times I went to the track with those mods. Obviously that's a huge difference. I felt the car being sluggish in one of it's "moods" on that 97.5mph day. Felt like a different car to be honest.

Oh, but I did improve 2mph from the 1/8th to 1/4 when I went back with my E/ported IM...I just didn't run a great time because I F'd up the launch and my clutch was slipping on ice, so I had to feather through 2nd. I got through the 1/8th @77.x and finished the 1/4 @ 100.1 whereas with just I/J I did 79.95 in the 1/8th and 100.82 in the 1/4. And I'd assume the PCDs are good for at least 1-1.5mph, so I can't wait!

TylerT

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I'd set aside some time to get the installation done ..

Make sure to get a flat head screw driver, vice grips and a lot of elbow grease to get the old ones out. The DIY on VE-SIX-P was helpful ..

Dave_B

Not until Fall. I really haven't been into it for past few years. Once I get my ECU flashed and have the rev limiter extended, I'll go back. I need the extended limiter to take advantage of the new gears and short DRs I plan on running. The only things left to do on my car are the flash, some sort of high flow cats (possibly test pipes), and possibly the OEM headers from the 07/08 VQ35HR. After that, the power stuff is done for the G and I'll focus on getting an auto-x car like an S2000. I'd love to see a 13.9 for my G.

Good luck at the strip. The heat is going to kill your car's performance. It's why I don't waste my time running in the warmer months. It's just disappointing.

Dave_B

With that power to weight, I think 104mph traps are very realistic.

princelybug

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Nice kill.

SatinSilverAV6

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I wouldn't doubt that you could hit a 13.9 in nice weather even with what you have done now. It will be interesting to see what you will run when you are finished with your plan.

Thanks, yes the heat is going to kill my performance but I have an itch to go and even in the hot weather the car feels strong with the new Jpipe. I don't plan on running my fastest time but I can get a good idea with what the DA is and plugging that in to see what the correction factor is.

damnboy37

You got lucky, I heard 370s are getting into the very low 13s. Nice run, sonnick.

Sonnick

Yessir. Don't forget he had a passenger and I did not. It would've been a different outcome if he was passengerless (lol?). Also, as the motor breaks in more it will be faster.

He just installed his Stillen intakes and said it sounds sick! I can't wait to hear it.

apnorm

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Most definitely!

Majofo

damn.. nice kill.

Sonnick

I will definitely try to get at least 1 video. I'll tell him to bring his camera. It won't be the same results since he now has Stillen intakes, but should still be a good run for the camera

I'll ask my other friend to come in my car so we'll each have a passenger so it could be more fair. Maybe even a before/after 3" exhaust I'm gonna say he'll pull about 2 cars from a low 1st gear roll to 4th.

Dave_B

Tell him to shift right at redline (7500rpms), not a moment sooner.

duluoz

details of new gears, please

Dave_B

I swapped in the rear carrier (includes pinion/gear, LSD) from a 6MT G35, which is about a 7% increase in torque multiplication over the automatic gear set. The DRs are about 2.5" shorter than stock which increases torque multiplication another 7%. The biggest reason I did the swap was to get the limited slip differential from the 6MT. It was a pretty simple job. Unbolt the half shafts, unbolt the driveshaft, remove a few bolts from the chassis, drop the old carrier and swap in the new one.

duluoz

^thanks for the re; i understand completely -- our lsd hunt is up front for our jatco-equipped cars glad to see you've got a solution
sorry to sway o/t.

Dave_B

Staying OT, how have you liked the LGT? I'm replacing my wife's mint 98 LGT wagon and replacing it with a 2007-2010 Outback. She doesn't care about power and would be fine with the NA H4. That would be fine for me, but the XTs sure look nice and same with the H6. I also like that the XT/3.0R come with the JATCO 5AT found in my G. The NA H4s come with the old school 4EAT. I've been avoiding the XTs because it seems like the turbo has it's issues, especially with the inline oil filter to the turbo. Apparently it can get clogged and starve the turbo of oil. Lots of XT owners also report driveability issues such as stumbling, random CELs, etc. Are the problems as widespread as reported?

Monte TLS,MAX

Wish I were closer to you I would defiantely run you in the Z, its gotten a bit stronger since my time in my signature!