Trackruner228

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1) Lexus IS250
2) Volvo V70
3) Acura TL
4) Buick Enclave
5) BMW 3-Series
6) GMC Yukon
7) Lexus RX350
8) Saab 9-5
9) Infiniti FX35
10) Volvo XC70
11) Lexus RX400h
12) Lincoln MKX
13) Audi TT
14) Volvo C70
15) BMW 5-Series


http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/10/car...hisSpeed=30000

JAB00

Good find buddy. At the end of it's life cycle the TL is still going toe to toe with the big boys. 2.5 years later, I still love my 05. I can't wait to see what the new generation will bring to the table. If it's any indication, looking at the new Accord, it will eat up the competition. The new Accord is winning comparison tests in many different car mags, and I'm sure the new TL will also, with it's new SH-AWD

TLin401

The Volvo V70 are they serious! Someone over at Forbes must have problems because how can a station wagon be ahead of the TL! I didn't even think that they still made station wagons.

Trackruner228

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I agree I mean all the cars have been redsigned and the TL still sells 4000 units a month yes it is down but it still good considering its the oldest design and there is no doubt that this car has done great for Acura.

LyfeIs

Do people still buy Volvo's? The only ones I see on the street are older then my mother.

Aman

^ apparently they do. I'm glad the TL made the podium, but how does a Volvo beat it?

I'm surprised the 3series made the list as well. nice car, but as expensive as hell.

ctvader

I looked at the IS250 but it was too much $$$ and too small. Volvos - yeah, people buy them but how can you put the TL, IS250 and a station wagon in same category?

I will say that Volvo does have the best wagons (and seats) on the market.

JAB00

Volvo is not my style but I can't knock it. Growing up my mom had a Volvo station wagon. That thing was a tank. I don't know if the build quality is still good but I'm sure they're still solid vehicles.

neuronbob

As I said almost five years ago when the 3G TL was introduced, "Acura has a winner on its hands". It obviously still is a winner.

jo-jo111

My question is when did a GMC Yukon become a luxury car?

LyfeIs

^^^Thats true. Also Saab, Volvo and Buick?

Kennedy

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Luxury is no longer defined by brand name. The 2008 Honda Accord trumps the 2007 TL, but few consider it a "Luxury" car.

Volvo's always been in that borderline luxury line, much like Acura... In fact, the older Volvo's WERE the luxury line of the 70's/80's because they were imported, technically advanced, and the safest vehicle on the road.

and you guys laughing at the wagons while driving a 4 door family sedan known as a TL are funny too. The TL is not a sports car, no matter how much carbon fiber you stick on it. I love my TL, and the CF I've hung all over it, but I recognize what it is.

I'd rock a Volvo V70R in a heartbeat - 300HP, AWD, turbo (over 100HP worth of easy tuning with a turbo upgrade)... Too bad it's now a Ford product and will never have the reliability of Honda. I got kids, and am seriously considering a V70R for the wife (OK, for me) later in life.

jo-jo111

I agree with on this, but it said car and last i checked a car and a truck are two seperate type of vehicles.

..Mark..

I was test driving S60R's a while back and almost pulled the trigger but didn't. The main reason why i didn't was because of questionable reliability and lack luster resale, but to be honest that was really it. 300hph, brembos, active handling, easily modded, and they look pretty pimp too if you get the factory body kit. Its not a bad ride at all..

userbbc5

They disregarded body style and defined "luxury" as "all cars and SUVs with starting prices, including destination fees, over $30,000".

http://www.forbesautos.com/news/head...the-money.html

redman042

Seriously? What makes it better?

I can see it borrows styling cues from the TL and definitely has more of the TL's luxury gadgets, but BETTER than a TL? That might be stretching it.

I've always felt that purchasing the 2006 TL was a really good move for us. You just get so much more for the money with this car than any Lexus, Infiniti, or other luxury brand. And you can't beat the low maintenance costs, relatively good gas mileage, and great resale value.

allykahn

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Kennedy...You beat me to the punch. The Volvo R cars (6 spd ONLY) are serious stealth machines. Don't forget the three setting suspension, 13" Brembros all around and the best seats on the planet. I was going to purchase one before the TL but my wife's S70 T5 (240 HP) was having way too many problems both mechanical and electrical and they are very tempermental machines. Quite a few enthusaists that own are considering dumping them. I think the '07 is the last year for the R.

Keanu's mrs. T

OMG! Half of those quasi-luxury vehicles shouldn't even be listed. Glad to see the TL is still a perennial top rater. These ratings at times are so biased and kickbacks galore sum up, "the behind the scenes," of making the list.

..Mark..

They were available in auto, i test drove one.. One thing that i didn't like about it was that there was a delay in shifting it when you went into the sport mode. You would actually have to shift early to have car shift at the rpms you wanted.

It sucked..

007TL-S

the TL still hanging in there, .....I'm not surprised at all!.....Volvo's don't wow me! and never have! ...beauty is in the eye of the beholder and Vovo's hurt my eye's !....and now gag me EVEN MORE with "Global sourced parts" from FORD MO CO.....I'd buy a BENZ or a BMW before a Vovo!

shooter

They can't just list TL alone there right? Besides, not everyone agree on getting a TL like all of us smart guys here ... LOL ....

be happy with what we get here & happy holidays ....

allykahn

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Mark, I wasn't saying that they weren't available in auto, as they were. The autos had reduced power for 1st and 2nd gear and it fell well short of the 300hp. The R cars (manual and auto) were like comparing the manual TL to the auto TL...two different machines.

..Mark..

My bad.. I agree 100%..

gauravp123

where's the g35?

userbbc5

infiniti seems to have some pricey options according to the same site...

http://www.forbesautos.com/slideshow...hisSpeed=30000

assuming the same applies to the g35...probably why it's not in the list...

mickey3c

forbes has some weird ideas about luxury... most of those may be premium cars but vey few are luxury cars...

04TLinSYR

Volvos are the most expensive car (to maintain) that I have ever owned and I've owned 3. Great seats, but the newer ones have awkward seating positions for me.

Yukon Denalis are definitely luxury cars. My parents have the '03 Yukon XL Denali and it's every bit as luxurious as the Caddy DTS.

When I bought my TL, I had decided that I was going to buy what I wanted and could afford anything under $50K. I went to a car show in Syracuse and sat in every car at the show (OK, I wasn't interested in a Ford Focus) and the best seating position for me was an Audi A8L. Since it cost way more than my first house, I ruled that out. The TL was my 2nd favorite. I had every intention of buying a BMW 3-series, but I couldn't get comfortable. C-class Mercedes was worse and the Volvo S60 was horrible. The G35 was close, but the interior quality wasn't close to the TL (didn't know about the rattles back then). I liked the Saab 9-5 OK but not as much as the TL. Surprisingly [NOT] the 04 Accord came in 3rd, right behind the TL. Audi A4 was way too small and the A6 has way too many electrical issues to even consider. I liked the Lexus GS OK but not as much as the Acura/Honda.

I just went over 60K miles and I'm still very happy with my decision. No nav, auto, desert mist with the very light interior.