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Old 08-15-2008, 05:19 PM
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First TL to break 12's?

Well, thats my goal. With the new clutch (Clutchmasters Stage 3 with LW Flywheel) and Innovative mounts along with some drag radials I think 12.90s are possible. What you guys think?
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... i thought you already did


OMPrelude, did like...13.1, or 13.05 i think.... im sure with all your new mods, you can do it... just dont run with the hiros on
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Originally Posted by type-s09
Well, thats my goal. With the new clutch (Clutchmasters Stage 3 with LW Flywheel) and Innovative mounts along with some drag radials I think 12.90s are possible. What you guys think?
the following things, aren't going to help:
-19x8.5 Axis Hiros
-JL 12w3v3s/ JL 500/1v2

i think to break into the 12s, you'll need to get lighter, 17" wheels;
then dump the audio stuff, and rear seats

even after that, i think you'd he a little over the 13 mark.
Old 08-15-2008, 06:46 PM
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i know the easy stuff...what drag radial will fit a 19" wheel? haha...i do autox and other races all the time..i know my stuff...weight=slow
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^ axis circuit 18 x 8.5

16lbs a wheel
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lol.. what a bad start already
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You know that I am only trying to help (I am not trying to be rude).... From the "writing on the wall", I see a snapped axle in your future. The TL has weak axles. IM stiff mounts, HD clutch, sticky tires, and you are just one "popping the clutch" away from broken axles. Just trying to spare you some grief - the "writing is on the wall".
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those are some slow times man...what's wrong w/ you? LMAO!! I'm j/p...I wish my car could get those times. Keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
You know that I am only trying to help (I am not trying to be rude).... From the "writing on the wall", I see a snapped axle in your future. The TL has weak axles. IM stiff mounts, HD clutch, sticky tires, and you are just one "popping the clutch" away from broken axles. Just trying to spare you some grief - the "writing is on the wall".

i kind of agree.. but for one main reason only....

the TL has ok fwd components (axles, cv, bearings etc...) but it cant handle too much power.... my $$ says he can probably pull more than 340whp with those pre-cats install... which is the fastest TL... ever.... put a tiny little can of juice (which i dont really recommend) and he can EASILY dyno 400whp on the bottle...

upgraded components are just one more thing, that we cant buy, for these cars.... a GB would be cool for upgraded axles and shit, but, not enough 3G owners have that kind WHp
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OK FIRST OFF... 19" DRAG RADIAL

leave the 19" in the back... get a pair of 17" rpf1 17x9 with 255/45-17 slicks (the non street legal kind )....

this would run you about $600 instead of spending $1250 on drag radials in 245/35-19 <-

as for quick diet... empty your pockets

no seriously take out the music, the stuff in the trunk, owners manual which I can bet you have in the glove box...

you should break the 12 mark... I don't see why not if you can stick the tires to the ground.... I've seen your launches pre-s/c and they looked pretty good... no idea how your reaction time is and your 60' but I do beleive you could verywheel do it...
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2 x 275/40-17 works well ($392 shipped)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=130235666963

2 x 17x9 +35 rpf1 ($520 shipped)
http://www.streetdreams.org/wheels/r...F1/Silver/17/9


eh my prices were off oh well ^^^^^ thats what I would do
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First make sure your new clutch is broken in. Second I think if you ride the clutch out instead of dumping it your axles will be fine. Take out the spare, jack, back seat, etc... will make it easier on your car during the launch. Don't hit the rev limiter but take it right to it. With over 300hp whp you will need to shift well and my guess is to shoot for a 2.0 60'. 12's are no joke. You will probably notice your mph won't go up much as you get there faster. I would say 12.95 at 109 with a good launch if you already ran a 13.6 at 106 with a slipping clutch. I think .1 in the 60 is usually good for about .2's on your et. Good luck.
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i believe you can do it...good luck
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Car needs to be put on a serioud diet, and as stated above, I think the axles will break.
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
OK FIRST OFF... 19" DRAG RADIAL

leave the 19" in the back... get a pair of 17" rpf1 17x9 with 255/45-17 slicks (the non street legal kind )....

this would run you about $600 instead of spending $1250 on drag radials in 245/35-19 <-

as for quick diet... empty your pockets

no seriously take out the music, the stuff in the trunk, owners manual which I can bet you have in the glove box...

you should break the 12 mark... I don't see why not if you can stick the tires to the ground.... I've seen your launches pre-s/c and they looked pretty good... no idea how your reaction time is and your 60' but I do beleive you could verywheel do it...
dude i was kidding by the 19" drag radial..i have a set of 245/45/17 BFG Drag radials on 17lb wheels...the purpose of the mounts was to prevent wheel hop which can cause an axle to break...i know how to drive at the track..i drove my car to a 13.9 on street tires with just an intake...now i have 100 more whp and some sticky tires
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If any TL is going to do defeat the clock, its gonna be yours. Your TL is quick! If you're going to head to the track solo, take out the passenger side seat to make the car 60lbs lighter. The rear seat back and bottom should total around 40lbs i think.

Definitely run 17s with sticky rubber.

Wait until it's 60 degrees or colder.

Do the ice on the blower tactic.

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which wheels... oz? kosei?
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When did you run the 13.6? Was that pre or post S/C? That's amazing if you trapped 104 while still N/A.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
When did you run the 13.6? Was that pre or post S/C? That's amazing if you trapped 104 while still N/A.
13.6 with the blower...my clutch slips between shifts...putting the new one in soon...
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Originally Posted by type-s09
13.6 with the blower...my clutch slips between shifts...putting the new one in soon...
That makes sense, because if you were 13.90-14.00 with the intake, you were likely 13.70's with the rest of your bolt ons.

When did the clutch start to go? What's your mileage?
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You can do it. You got enough power to back it up.

POWERSHIFT that bitch!
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
That makes sense, because if you were 13.90-14.00 with the intake, you were likely 13.70's with the rest of your bolt ons.

When did the clutch start to go? What's your mileage?
the clutch is fine for everyday driving and it appears to have life...the clamping force isnt enough to hold the power
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I've already run a 12.97.
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In the car I had before this one... 2001 CLK55 with a few (very minor mods). Motor crank HP was around 375 B4 the mods
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good luck make a video when you do break 12

oh and why dont u get the UR pulleys?
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Originally Posted by DC3328
good luck make a video when you do break 12

oh and why dont u get the UR pulleys?
they only make a crank pulley for the 3rd gen and i am debating it, ive heard the belt can slip on the aluminum pulley
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