What would it take to make the TL a 10 sec car

 

A cliff and a hurricane. Or a big chain and a 6s car.

With a car as heavy as the TL with FWD, you would have to build a new chassis for a RWD or AWD platform. With FWD, you simply aren't going to be able to put enough power to pavement to get the bloated TL into the 10's. Even ProFWD class NHRA cars aren't in the 7's yet and they have unlimited budget. You'll have little FWD CRXs or similar in the 10's but they're sprayed and/or turboed purpose built gutted go-karts.

You have to build so much more power to offset the fact that it's FWD. 650-700HP would get you strong in the 10's (less 500-550HP if you have great suspension which ins't gonna happen with FWD) with that weight but you would have to do it all on the top end. But we're talking a RWD purpose built drag car. For FWD you would need way more power, perhaps another 200-300HP to make up for such a weak launch. My guess to get the very heavy TL firmly in the 10's with FWD would take minimally 900HP. That isn't cheap and EVERYTHING would grenade. It would cost you more than the value to the TL in additional spending to do it.

If you were hell bent on getting into the tens with a rice sedan you're better off doing it with a rear or AWD platform like the G35, G35x, WRX, Evo, etc. expecially since there are so many more tuners out there working on them.

Frankly I would be surprised if I ever saw a 12s TL.

 

a miracle.

 

strap an afterburner rocket engine to the roof.

 

Well, My TL turns the quarter in 9.83!!!!!!! You guys must have bought the crappy ones that vibrate!

 

Anything is possible with money thrown at it. The 3.2 TL engine has 270 HP and has a 11:1 compression ratio and not a great deal of torque. The fact that the car weighs in at a tad over 3550lbs isn't as big a factor as people think, with the right money thrown at it. .

I've seen '65 Impala's run 8's (not gutted), again, with a lot of money thrown at it, anything is possible. To try it with the TL would mean a full engine rebuild from the bottom up, different tranny,chassis work etc..

If a Mazda Portege can do it, so can a TL with the right work done to it. Why someone would want to, is beyond me, but it could be done if you don't mind it not being streetable, driveable or reliable, so to speak.

 

Whats the fastest 1/4 mile time it could get with about 10 grand into it

 

just get a Rustang GT and some mod...you'll run 10~11s

 

Oh, and my pen will run 9.23 with some Nox too!

 

It would probably be cheaper to sell the TL, buy an IS and get a stage 3 kit to get in the 10s

 

there aren't even enough mods for the TL to total 10g's are there? if you want a boost, just give it no2. that's a boost right there

 

I'm amazed how easy people think it is to get into the "10's".

I can see it now, pop a nitrous kit onto it, with 11:1 compression anything above 50hp is going to sling the bottom end so that God can see the pieces at eye level while laughing at the moron who stuck Nitrous onto his high compression engine.

To go thru the bottom end up and make the engine strong enough to handle the kind of power it takes to go that fast you're going to spend more than 10k, might as well forget about it.

 

it's actually pretty easy...if you have the right car. the tl isn't meant to be a 10 second car.

 

There are 10 second GTP's and they still play with a boatload of weight and FWD. Check out Clubgp.com for that info.

 

Of course if you have the right car/engine you can run 10's, hell you could run 5's with that analogy.

Getting a car into the 10's once could be easy, even twice or a few more times (with a crap load of luck). Doing it so you can race thru a season reliably is another matter and isn't easy. Anybody who thinks it's easy hasn't been there and hasn't done that.

 

Nitrous Dioxide? That's a new one. Super speed secret?

If you mean N20, the TL's compression is too high and you'll simply grenade it. Same with any other power adder, even with water or alcohol injection.

 

Nice N20 explosion...just add TL





Nitrous is not your friend.

 

I can see it now, hey guys I add "NOS"!! to my car, thats right "NOS"!! jus like dey did on that movie Fast and Furius! I'm gonna run 9's while parts blow off the engine!

Reality is over-rated...

 

No, you gotta say it like this...


Naaaaawwwwwwwwwsssssssssssss

 

Oh...the sure way into the 10s with a ricer...


200lbs of vinyl stickers and a shopping cart wing.

See right here...definate 10.90 car

 

Good pics... I'm hoping he gets the picture, building a TL for the 10's would be a waste of good money.

 

Nope....I just did some calculations.

Here's the 10.90 2004 TL how to:

 

PRICELESS!!!!!!!

 

Where can I buy the coffie can??? I'll install it after my zaino treatment and putting some of that purple oil in my crankcase!!!!

 

Don't touch the engine. Then take EVERYTHING out, shell out the body, and reform it with carbon fiber. Get the weight down to about 1200 lbs. Then you'll have your 10 second TL [=

 

~ 550 horsepower - ASSUMING the front wheels could efficiently put that kind of power to the ground.

In other words, don't bother.

 

~ 550 horsepower - ASSUMING the front wheels could effectively put that kind of power to the ground.

In other words, don't bother.

 

~ 550 horsepower - ASSUMING the front wheels could effectively put that kind of power to the ground.

In other words, don't bother.

 

come on guys he just ask f it was possible just say yes or no and if yes how if no why. don't have to be mean about it. Some of us are not geniuses or great spellers.

 

if you really wanted to for some strange reason then you probably can. strip the car of all the luxuries that you paid for. strip out the interior, take out the premium leather seats you paid for. take out the beloved navigation and dvd-a stereo and all the speakers. take out the air conditioning system. strip out all non-essentials like power windows and replace all glass components with plastic. replace the whole out shell with either carbon fiber or fibierglass to reduce more weight. get some lightweight wheels and racing slicks, and throw away the spare. then we probably can upgrade the engine, supercharger and NOS might get it to about 400hp. so if you strip the car down under 2500lbs with 400hp maybe....but why the hell would you buy a luxury sports sedan and want to gut the thing out to make a 10s car???? everyone watches too much fast and furious and our minds become slow and idiotic.

 

trade it in for a mustang cobra, swap out the stock supercharger for a vortec. I/H/E and maybe a 250 shot of NOS, that would be about 650+ rwhp and have a good shot at 10 seconds

 

A better question would be "What would it take to get the TL into the 12's". That would be a lofty goal in itself. But it could probably be done without destroying or mutilating your car. Cai, exhaust, 75 shot, ET streets or slicks might do it.

 

My response wasn't really towards the original poster, it was a response to people who think they can tack on a stage 3 anything and go 10's. What you get with a stage 3 kit on a stock IS is a blown up IS. Among other points I was trying to make...

I digress, you're right....

 

We heard you the first 2 times.

 

Yeah...not ever engine is an LS1...

 

Yeah, some engines are actually reliable unlike the LS1.

 

You don't need "650 RWHP," or a blower, or nitrous to run 10s in a Mustang-size car:

 

Enough with the reposted B.S. dumbass. We've already seen that it wasn't the motor that got that plastic P.O.S. into the 10's, it's the $10,000's in chassis, trans, rearend and bolt ons that did it.

Cam-only...the biggest lie ever told. But then Mullethead benchtop racers have to lie about performance to make up for the crap quality their cars are. They have to justify their mistakes somehow, even if they have to lie.

The very expensive cam and valve spring and titantium retainer swap was only the beginning of the thousands and thousands spent on race mods to get that plasticar to get out of it's own way. What a joke...they even had to replace the carpet and take out the A/C. Man whatta pile.

 

Another inspiring conversation!

 

NOTHING you say is accurate/correct.

I correct you (using valid reference) and you then move on to the next ignorant statement without acknowledging your previous errors.