First post here guys, so the help is appreciated. Ive been looking at buying a Tl for a good bit now. Found two that I like, also could use you help or advice as well.

To start the two cars I'm looking at now. I havent seen either in person since they are both two hours plus away from me.

2007 Acura TL Type-S with Navigation System
Price: $14,995
Mileage:94,782 - auto
Color: Nighthawk Black
One owner, the dealer is a wholesaler
Dealer has good and bad reviews from what Ive seen.

Things that worry me are the miles, with it being close to the 105 mark, a bubble in one of the tires, the normal wear and tear on the exterior the dealer talked about, it is also out of my home state.


Other Car is 2007 TL A-Spec with Nav
Price $14,915
Mileage- 75,042
Color- Kinetic Blue Pearl w/ Taupe Ebony Int
Two owners, clean carfax
Remote Start, 18inch Chrome Wheels, Looks like there might be an aftermarket intake as well from the pics

Advice on which one may be a better deal, and if the difference in the one being a Type S is worth the mileage difference

Looking for a Tl between an 04-08 under $15 with decently low miles, with nav, and clean title with no accidents. Preferably have it in Black, but willing to go different for the right deal. Either want Type S or A-Spec, no Base model.

Thanks Guys!

 

take the type-s

lower price thou

 

Test drive them and decide off of that.

 

they both look clean. Hard to choose. The Aspec is also auto>?

 

I'd love to test drive both but they are each about two hours away from one another and two hours from me.

And yes, the A-Spec is also Auto.

 

The A-spec sounds like a better deal to me, but its whatever you prefer.

 

get which ever one drives better ... at this point, i feel like the diff between the type S and a fully aspec'd base tl is almost negligible, so either way u will have a good car

 

Does anyone know of complaints for the chrome wheels on the aspec?

 

A vote for the A-Spec.

 

2 hours is chump change to what I've driven for my cars. My '08 6MT CBP TL-S was 8 hours.

My Opinion: You're ballin' on a budget. Save your money and buy a lower mileage TL when you can afford one in better shape (not to say those are in bad shape). $15k is a fairly low budget for a Type-S with "decently low miles". I paid $24k for mine with 43k on the odometer, CPO'd, 2 years ago.

I would also hold out for a 6MT, though this is my personal preference. They are, by far, worth the time and effort in waiting/searching for them, and debatably more reliable than the auto's (not to mention more powerful).

If I was in the market with your budget and the cash was burning a hole in my pocket, I'd choose the NBP TL-S any day over the A-spec, since it a few upgrades: brembo brakes, upgraded suspension, two-toned leather, navi, exhaust, etc.

Just my .

 

Complaints? They're solid wheels, just as the other stock wheels are. No known issues that I've ever heard of.

 

If I had the same dilemna, I would go type s. personally I dont like the chrome a-spec wheels. Also, I drive 15-20k a year so the type s' extra mileage is only one year less of driving for me in the long run. You would still get the extra horsepower of the type s, and the type s can also be aspec-ed in the long run. I would def try to knock down the price though.

 

Would you happen to have a link to the listing for the 2nd TL? Based on your post, the car is a non-Type-S but the color is Kinetic Blue Pearl? KBP was introduced as a color exclusive to the Type-S if I recall correctly.Either way, I hope you have good luck finding the TL you're looking for!
EDIT: Just looked at this post again from my phone since pics are blocked at work. That TL isn't KBP after all. Carry on

 

What about an 06 6MT? Still get LSD, still get Brembo's?

Personally, not a fan at ALL of the Chrome rims. I'd lean more towards the TL-S.

That being said, what do YOU want? You'll get more car on a base/A-spec for your budget. Most of those for $15k are going to have near or over 100k miles on them as I'm sure you've found.

Also, are you willing to travel? What is your time constraint?

 

Just an FYI Type S's come with all options. So stating that the Type S has navi is just stating the obvious. As for the a-spec, that color is not Kinetic Blue Pearl as that was a Type S only color. Its probably royal blue pearl or whatever color blue is called in 07.


You cant get a 6mt base TL in 07/08. So yes it has to be auto.


Having had a couple of both I disagree. They are not by far worth the time and effort. I know its all personal preference like you said, but thats just how I feel. Its one of the most difficult manuals I have ever driven. I never was able to finesse driving that car and would always find myself getting pissed shifting the thing lol. As for the reliability between the 07/08 auto and the 6mt I disagree with you on that as well. With the 6mt you are more than likely going to have 3rd gear issues which will require a dealer visit and/or fluid flush to GM synchromesh. I had clutch issues with one of my Type S's and that was anything but a cheap repair. Zero automatic issues, its a strong tranny! if you like to go through gears a lot I would always be scared of frying the clutch in the TL.




And to the OP, even though that base TL with aspec kit looks nice, I would still always opt for the higher end model Type S. Another 10K miles and its due for timing belt which will be a thousand plus, but not the end of the world. If it checks out with no accidents and drives well I would go with the S.

 

Yeah my bad, I meant to write Royal Blue. Auto is must, so the wife can drive it as well.

Also I do know know the Type S has basically all the options, I just copied over from their website.

I guess the one thing that worries me the most is the mileage difference worth getting a Type S. Because Id rather not change the timing belt this year.

And are these "good or great" deals or neither. Since I am on a budget.

Thanks for all your help guys, keep it coming.

 

The Navigation alone on the Type S makes it the better buy.

Never mind, I can't read.

But all the other standard Type S additions are huge, IMO. The Brembos look amazing especially when refinished to another color.

 

You and I have owned our fair share of TL's. I've owned 2 x 3G 6MT TL'S: 2004 NBP 6MT and my current '08 6MT CBP TL-S. I've never had any issues driving stick, of any sort, but again this is personal preference (and I've lived in big cities, like San Francisco, with them).

As for reliability, the the 3rd gear synchro problem that seemed to be an issue, but can be remedied by ACDelco's Synchromesh Friction modified fluid, or can be replaced by Acura (or both), given the severity. I've never personally dealt with this issue, in either of my TL's, which I drove my '04 from 70k to 105k before trading, on its original clutch with absolutely zero issues, so I'm not sure what spawned this "more than likely" comment, unless I've defied the odds with more than 1 TL. I'm currently also on the original/OEM clutch in my TL-S, at 55k miles, with absolutely zero issues as well, though I did change my fluid to the aforementioned, for reliability.

IMO, especially compared to other cars, there are not very many clutch replacement or failure threads on here, and those that do exist were abused by inexperienced drivers, for the most part.

As for the auto's (and you can quote me on this), the very first thing people are going to tell you to look for, are the 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches and whether or not they've been replaced. Countless threads on this topic further make the evidence more concrete. This, by no means, means that either of the above mentioned TL's, or ANY TL for that matter, is unreliable, because they are extremely reliable automobiles (especially in comparison to other cars out there).

In conclusion, both cars are extremely reliable and you shouldn't turn your nose up at the TL because of the above facts. Like I said, the topic of auto vs. manual is arguable.


<3 JTS

 

The TLS will have a better resale than a base TL, and both cars are getting older now. So even though 20k miles difference, still a Black TLS will go easier if it is clean. Honda's will get high miles if in good condition and the more time goes by, the less and less the miles will matter especially above 100k miles.

But the TLS is more due for a timing belt service than the base. That is about $700 give or take some...

Unless the TLS is just dirty or beat up, then I would go with the TLS. But that is one good looking Base TL.. Is the Aspec from factory or was it done by a previous owner? Too many mods may flag a person that can't leave well enough alone. And sometimes you never know what the heck you are buying. So, whichever car is closest to factory production that is best.. but again, even if the TLS has been jacket with, it still may be a better choice because anything is fixable. And you can never make a base TL into a TLS on the books or by the VIN. A base TL is always a base TL, aspec or not. You may be able to fool some people if you mod a base TL, but when it comes to trading..It's still a base TL.

 

I love that A-Spec. So clean.

 

I just looked at the blue on their website, and I would say go with it. It's color is royal blue pearl, it has navi, it has a exhaust on it and it also has the aspec badge. And it also has lower mileage than the type s. that's just my opinion for you bro

 

Keep looking.

 

From my shopping, both look like reasonable values--especially if you can talk them down from their asking prices, which of course you can. Good luck!

 

Doesn't the TYPE S auto have the RL's transmission or was it all 07-08 had the RL transmission instead of the problematic ones from previous years...

 

id go with the a-spec. lower mileage than the type s, but it what you want

 

If insurance doesn't bother you get the TLs for some reason mine was going to be 51 dollars more a month so I waited it out to find a base 6mt.

 

Type-s. same price and barely any more miles. I'd tr type negotiate the cost of 105k service and get it.

Although the aspec'd base is also a fair deal.

 

I flew 1400 miles to get mine. If a 2 hour drive was the only thing in my way, I would get my ass over there and test drive one or the other.

A type s even with 95k miles for 15k has me thinking. That seems pretty low. I would test drive that one first, because if it checks out good grab it. And negotiate in cost of a 105k repair then do it yourself. You should be able to get them down another 500 - 750 off the price at minimum.

But its your money.