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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Thumbs down dead transmission!!

well it happened to me too

my transmission crapped out on me while i was on the southern state.
its been giving me a little trouble for a couple of days now and i was waiting for my appointment for a loaner and it just crapped out.

I only have drive for about 5 mins after the car starts then i gotta pull over and shut the car off and try again.
and i can only go 15 MPH!!!!
it looks like the torque converter crapped out and blocked flow of trans fluid and then the clutches burned out and took 3,4,5 gear with it!

ive been telling acura reps that ive had a bad torque converter for months but they wouldnt listen. if they would have listened to me, they would have saved themselves a lot of money. now instead of a torque converter, they gotta get me a new trans. THANK YOU WARRANTY!!!!

i guess we'll see what happens when i get the car back from the dealer.
gotta wait till monday to get my loaner!
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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they dont replace just the torque convertor- if its bad it need a transmission---dont you understand how the system works? <g>
funny- your problem sounds like my sig- which is supposed to be a joke
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
they dont replace just the torque convertor
Actually, If "all" it was is a malfunctioning torque converter, most of us that do "know" the system would highly doubt they would replace the trans.

Now, if the converter shelled out and FOD'd out the trans, then yes R&Ring the entire assembly would be warranted.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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I am by no means a TL trans internals expert- my area is how to work with the service dept to get coverage~ KJ or fsttyms1 would be the go to person for ~good~ info

Telling them whats wrong with your car LOL- service dept loves that one,no wonder they never found it- did you take the tech for a test drive?

are you a certified acura tech? why arent you working there now?

If it was JUST a torque convertor they would replace just that- cost way less than a trans- maybe a few hundred for it versus a whole trans ~2000 internal cost

I believe- based on the '80 chevy 350 beater truck that had the trans replaced---
that when the clutch packs starts spitting bits into the fluid, it gets in the torque convertor (no idea how that mechanism/part actually works)
and contaminates that- so it gets replaced along with a trans job.

The torque convertor does hold approx half of the TL trans fluid capacity so it must be important to the operation
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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sometimes the problem is in its early stage when you take in it- time after time, and they cant warranty it till a code appears or obvious symptom

If they start replacing units on request, and at teardown inspection they are found to be good--- the dealer is going to take some heat and possibly a financial hit on the unit.

My replacement unit has a slight shudder into 2nd and 3rd- tech drove it with me and he couldnt feel it but might be selenoid prob, said wait till its obvious and they will be happy to change it out again.
Now its easy for a passenger to feel so a tech should too~ took a year of low miles driving to get it there!

Things happen to mechanical devices, and loaner cars are fun for track days
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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`if its bad it needs a transmission---dont you understand how the system works?` <g>

Thats was supposed to be a poke at myself for not understanding how a device really works

not meant to be about anyone else, but if this resembles you feel free to take offense

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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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well i got my loaner this morning and its an 08 tl base
i'll be drivin the loaner for about a week until they fix my car!
at least i didnt get a headache trying to get a loaner they got me one as soon as one was available.
i'll keep you guys updated on the repairs!
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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at least u got a base 08 tl... my transmission died a week ago and im still waiting for them to fix my 05 SSM TL. i got a tsx for a loaner instead. How is it possible for a car with only 35,000 miles on it to have a crappy transmission and need a new one?
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
they dont replace just the torque convertor- if its bad it need a transmission---dont you understand how the system works? <g>
funny- your problem sounds like my sig- which is supposed to be a joke
I thought your sig was an actual quote from somebody... It wouldn't surprise me if it did come from a member.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by maddsiick
at least u got a base 08 tl... my transmission died a week ago and im still waiting for them to fix my 05 SSM TL. i got a tsx for a loaner instead. How is it possible for a car with only 35,000 miles on it to have a crappy transmission and need a new one?
japs are good with electronics but not mechanics. at least transmissions.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Chad05TL
japs are good with electronics but not mechanics. at least transmissions.
japs (are you serious?.).. you know the TL is USDM right?..
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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jap engineering
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chad05TL
jap engineering
Are you 60? that's 50 year racial throwback. Japanese Engineering.. you're talking about the ingenuity that helped bring the world out of the industrial age. I reiterate.. the TL is USDM.. US Engineers.. US R&D.. American Honda / Acura is almost completely autonomous from Japan Honda / Acura.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Chad05TL
jap engineering
Lol. I don't want to even get started. All I'm going to say is, what car are you driving or what car does your family have or your friends have? or your friends family? or your families friends cousin friend? 80% all Honda/Acura products. Unless you're one of those rich kids but anyways Good day sir.

Oh yeah, Majofo I love your educated comebacks they make my day lol
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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Just an idea: Let's get back to the OP's issue. It's called premature transmission failure. It happens to all brands regardless of country of design and manufacture. Thankfully, not very often. If it happens to you, it sucks.

As to why a premature failure happens, only a complete teardown can confirm what happened. A modern AT is incredibly complicated. Weakest link theory applies. The failure of what might seem like a minor part can lead to overall failure. The same symptoms can have multiple causes. I've torn apart friends' ATs to replace valves/actuators and other little goodies (based on dealer mechanics' recommendations) and its a crap-shoot at best. I don't plan on doing any of that stuff again.

So, we pay a price for sophistication and convenience. Once in a while, a really high price.

the Bro.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:28 AM
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Honda has had problems with their automatic transmissions since the 80's. Good engines but trannies are not as good. GM has their issues too. But if I said the truth about GM, it would be ok.. right? Would it be a racial throw back if I knocked GM? You people are victum of the left media, and a weak mind.

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:01 AM
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This is an open forum Chad, don't be intolerant. Left Media? Weak Mind? You need to take your head out of your ass and think about the statistical MTBF for transmissions based on design and operational variables. Number one killer of transmissions is heat which is proportional to wear. Number two is poor routine maintenance and owner diligence. There will always be a delta where a bad one pops up. If that delta becomes larger than expected, the engineers find a solution and recall the design.

My buddy worked for GM / Delco for +15 years. He has a suburban that has had 4 A/T and each one had varying lives from 25k miles to 120k+ miles and going on his current transmission after he rebuilt it.

My family owns an '83 Accord and it has 280k miles on it, no transmission issues. My god parents own a '94 Accord and it has almost 1/2 Million miles on it and no transmission issues. I've owned a '93 Accord and a '98 Accord. The '98 was the only one to give me issues and it was because I let my neighbor drive it while I was away for several months, and what do you know.. I take it out and the case is cracked (external damage). I sold my '93 at 115k miles and it's still in the family, probably has 150k on it by now and no problems.

So you can rant about how the Japanese produce poor quality mechanical systems but you'll find that there's more statistical data showing otherwise. You ask the opinion about Japanese Automobiles and 9 / 10 people will say how high quality they are and how they've driven forever with no problems. And again, the TL IS DESIGNED & MANUFACTURED IN THE U.S.A. - straight out of OHIO and that includes the A/T. I can't change your old boy attitudes but it would behove you to educate yourself or to share your educated knowledge and post quality feedback rather than dumbass opinions.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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calm down guys, acurazine does not tolerate harassing or insulting other members. If you have something to add, please do. If it's not constructive, don't post.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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OP what year is your TL??

im trying to take in as much knowledge on what models transmissions STILL have problems after the horrible 2001-2003 transmission years.

so these still have problems? or is this a rare occasion in the 3rd gen boards??
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by '01White3.2CL
OP what year is your TL??

im trying to take in as much knowledge on what models transmissions STILL have problems after the horrible 2001-2003 transmission years.

so these still have problems? or is this a rare occasion in the 3rd gen boards??
There's quite a few threads on the 3G boards about failed trannies.. and some really long threads about how to increase reliability on the 3G A/T like ext. ATF coolers or suggested ATF's. there seems to be a stronger correlation between earlier model 3G's and failed A/T's, but it's definitely not always the case. Mine went out at 87k but I'm not the original owner, and what I do know is that the original owner didn't take care of my TL. I have an '03 MDX and it has the trans cooler fix. The TC whines a bit but it almost has 110k on the original tranny and it is running well (so far ).

edit: I have an '04

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