could 3G TLS with mods can beat 13.0 1/4 mile?
06-29-2008, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by xejshinex
what u guys think
Common, bolt on mods? Not on your life.
06-29-2008, 10:33 PM
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it could, but with a lot of work, drag slicks, major motor work, of couse the S/C...
06-29-2008, 11:08 PM
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04+ 3rd Gen Acura TL S/C
=M/T=
--OMP Prelude - 13.1 @ 105.48 - (s/C, thermo spacers, pro-cats,custom 3in exhuast, cold air in take, running bridgestone re030 17in ,and comptech ss,mugen thermostat and rad cap)
looks pretty damn close
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=169327&page=1
=M/T=
--OMP Prelude - 13.1 @ 105.48 - (s/C, thermo spacers, pro-cats,custom 3in exhuast, cold air in take, running bridgestone re030 17in ,and comptech ss,mugen thermostat and rad cap)
looks pretty damn close
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=169327&page=1
06-29-2008, 11:10 PM
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You could do it N/A...
With a extreamly high compression engine on race gas, and with a lot of weight reductions. (if you have this motor you have some serious mods, and you didnt say what kind of mods)
You are looking at lots of $$$$$
With a extreamly high compression engine on race gas, and with a lot of weight reductions. (if you have this motor you have some serious mods, and you didnt say what kind of mods)
You are looking at lots of $$$$$
06-30-2008, 07:54 AM
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06-30-2008, 09:49 AM
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It's possible. Racinghart03 will probably be the closest (on the juice). Also i bet a 6 speed TL-S with slicks, a good driver, weight reduction and bolt-ons would be close...
You guys really think a juiced TL-S is gonna trump OMP preludes SC'd 6MT 3.2 with all the bolt ons? I don't, but what do I know... other than the SC 3.2 with good bolt ons seems to be pushing close to 330 WHP... and that's 40-50 more than any TL-S I've seen yet
TL-S just isn't there util that SC is made to fit... and even the 6MT is gonna suffer times due to the clutch delay.
I think if he keeps pushing thge juice he's gonna be out 1 head gasket too...
06-30-2008, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by xejshinex
so what can I expect from 06 TL 6MT with fujita CAI greddy evo II catback?
ard 13.9 @ 100 miles??
ard 13.9 @ 100 miles??
06-30-2008, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xejshinex
so what can I expect from 06 TL 6MT with fujita CAI greddy evo II catback?
ard 13.9 @ 100 miles??
ard 13.9 @ 100 miles??
06-30-2008, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
You guys really think a juiced TL-S is gonna trump OMP preludes SC'd 6MT 3.2 with all the bolt ons? I don't, but what do I know... other than the SC 3.2 with good bolt ons seems to be pushing close to 330 WHP... and that's 40-50 more than any TL-S I've seen yet
TL-S just isn't there util that SC is made to fit... and even the 6MT is gonna suffer times due to the clutch delay.
I think if he keeps pushing thge juice he's gonna be out 1 head gasket too...
TL-S just isn't there util that SC is made to fit... and even the 6MT is gonna suffer times due to the clutch delay.
I think if he keeps pushing thge juice he's gonna be out 1 head gasket too...
Blackura and one other TLS member that has all the bolt ons but the new pre-cat deletes and hes making somewhere in the range of 280whp. + pre-cat deletes we'll do a conservative 287-290whp slap a 75 shot on, by by SC 3.2. AND he's auto
Granted I'd much rather have an S/C myself as well, but having a TLS there isn't any option...yet
As for the headgasket if it can handle 8lbs on a blower than it can handle a 75 shot. F/I is F/I anyway you slice it.
06-30-2008, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CBP TL-S
Just a TLS with juice ? no. TLS w/ same bolt on's as OMP + juice = 3000 dollars less & most likely faster, especially if its an MT. LSD FTW.
Blackura and one other TLS member that has all the bolt ons but the new pre-cat deletes and hes making somewhere in the range of 280whp. + pre-cat deletes we'll do a conservative 287-290whp slap a 75 shot on, by by SC 3.2. AND he's auto
Granted I'd much rather have an S/C myself as well, but having a TLS there isn't any option...yet
As for the headgasket if it can handle 8lbs on a blower than it can handle a 75 shot. F/I is F/I anyway you slice it.
Blackura and one other TLS member that has all the bolt ons but the new pre-cat deletes and hes making somewhere in the range of 280whp. + pre-cat deletes we'll do a conservative 287-290whp slap a 75 shot on, by by SC 3.2. AND he's auto
Granted I'd much rather have an S/C myself as well, but having a TLS there isn't any option...yet
As for the headgasket if it can handle 8lbs on a blower than it can handle a 75 shot. F/I is F/I anyway you slice it.
06-30-2008, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CBP TL-S
Just a TLS with juice ? no. TLS w/ same bolt on's as OMP + juice = 3000 dollars less & most likely faster, especially if its an MT. LSD FTW.
Blackura and one other TLS member that has all the bolt ons but the new pre-cat deletes and hes making somewhere in the range of 280whp. + pre-cat deletes we'll do a conservative 287-290whp slap a 75 shot on, by by SC 3.2. AND he's auto
Granted I'd much rather have an S/C myself as well, but having a TLS there isn't any option...yet
As for the headgasket if it can handle 8lbs on a blower than it can handle a 75 shot. F/I is F/I anyway you slice it.
Blackura and one other TLS member that has all the bolt ons but the new pre-cat deletes and hes making somewhere in the range of 280whp. + pre-cat deletes we'll do a conservative 287-290whp slap a 75 shot on, by by SC 3.2. AND he's auto
Granted I'd much rather have an S/C myself as well, but having a TLS there isn't any option...yet
As for the headgasket if it can handle 8lbs on a blower than it can handle a 75 shot. F/I is F/I anyway you slice it.
06-30-2008, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by xejshinex
what u guys think
sure it could if it:
drove it's self
gutted
2 gals of gas in the tank
no TLS body kit and 17" wheels
06-30-2008, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
It would definitely be close there. Figure TypeS-09 is making 327hp, but with pre cat deletes and a good tune he'll be ~350, which is roughly where Blackura's car would sit with a 75 shot. But remember one thing.....a Base 6MT is ~200 lbs lighter than a Type-S 5AT.
I'm just a hater because there is no S/C for the TLS lol
07-01-2008, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gordon0652
You could do it N/A...
With a extreamly high compression engine on race gas, and with a lot of weight reductions. (if you have this motor you have some serious mods, and you didnt say what kind of mods)
You are looking at lots of $$$$$
With a extreamly high compression engine on race gas, and with a lot of weight reductions. (if you have this motor you have some serious mods, and you didnt say what kind of mods)
You are looking at lots of $$$$$
From what I see, a lot of people leave a lot on the table in 60' times. In the drag racing world I come from, run a 1.7 60' and people will laugh at you yet I have yet to see a TL beat a 2.0 60'. Someone with a manual TL needs to break down and buy a pair of slicks. Stick it on the revlimiter and dump the clutch when it goes green. Going from the normal 2.3 that most people are getting to an almost respectable 1.7 would take almost an entire second off of the 1/4 time. Tires are the most cost effective mod for a manual TL but no one spends the money on them. Anyone that can trap 104mph+ should be at a 13.0 or better.
07-01-2008, 12:37 AM
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It's already 11.0:1 lol.
From what I see, a lot of people leave a lot on the table in 60' times. In the drag racing world I come from, run a 1.7 60' and people will laugh at you yet I have yet to see a TL beat a 2.0 60'. Someone with a manual TL needs to break down and buy a pair of slicks. Stick it on the revlimiter and dump the clutch when it goes green. Going from the normal 2.3 that most people are getting to an almost respectable 1.7 would take almost an entire second off of the 1/4 time. Tires are the most cost effective mod for a manual TL but no one spends the money on them. Anyone that can trap 104mph+ should be at a 13.0 or better.
From what I see, a lot of people leave a lot on the table in 60' times. In the drag racing world I come from, run a 1.7 60' and people will laugh at you yet I have yet to see a TL beat a 2.0 60'. Someone with a manual TL needs to break down and buy a pair of slicks. Stick it on the revlimiter and dump the clutch when it goes green. Going from the normal 2.3 that most people are getting to an almost respectable 1.7 would take almost an entire second off of the 1/4 time. Tires are the most cost effective mod for a manual TL but no one spends the money on them. Anyone that can trap 104mph+ should be at a 13.0 or better.
07-01-2008, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
It's already 11.0:1 lol.
Tires are the most cost effective mod for a manual TL but no one spends the money on them. Anyone that can trap 104mph+ should be at a 13.0 or better.
Tires are the most cost effective mod for a manual TL but no one spends the money on them. Anyone that can trap 104mph+ should be at a 13.0 or better.
As well as you can say you ran a 12.99 @ 104mph, but the second you take the slicks off you back to 13.7-13.9 on the street.
Iuno, I guess i'm a MPH guy myself, I'd be more impressed by a fwd running low 13's @ 110ish than a fwd w/slicks running 12.90's @ 104. MPH shows horsepower, E/T shows traction.
07-01-2008, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CBP TL-S
You won't see anyone pulling 1.7's out of a FWD without slicks, and a drivetrain to handle it. Sure you can throw a pair of slicks on an M/T and go, but your stock clutch is going to be toast as soon as you try to launch, thats if your axles don't break first.
As well as you can say you ran a 12.99 @ 104mph, but the second you take the slicks off you back to 13.7-13.9 on the street.
Iuno, I guess i'm a MPH guy myself, I'd be more impressed by a fwd running low 13's @ 110ish than a fwd w/slicks running 12.90's @ 104. MPH shows horsepower, E/T shows traction.
As well as you can say you ran a 12.99 @ 104mph, but the second you take the slicks off you back to 13.7-13.9 on the street.
Iuno, I guess i'm a MPH guy myself, I'd be more impressed by a fwd running low 13's @ 110ish than a fwd w/slicks running 12.90's @ 104. MPH shows horsepower, E/T shows traction.
There are no TLs that trap 110mph or even close so it looks like tires will be very important to getting you to the 12s. Great, you have more mph, maybe you can brag about your hp to make you feel better after you lose a race.
The winner of a drag race is whoever gets there first. Who cares who's going faster past the line, you still lose. The OP asked if a TL-S with mods could break a 13.0. Tires are a very important mod.
As for slicks, that's what I said, it would probably take slicks to pull a 1.7 but it has been done on drag radials too. For that matter, I've never seen a TL on drag radials either and those are perfectly fine to daily drive on. Traction is one of the biggest handicaps of these FWD cars and I don't know why people pass up the great equalizer.
Unfortunately your attitude is shared by many and that's why there's not one single fast TL around.
07-01-2008, 04:48 PM
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A lot of good points have been brought up. Slicks or D/Rs would be the best bet for the car bar none. I did a little bit of searching around here today because I was bored, but it doesn't seem like a lot of people with ATs do valvebody or torque converter upgrades. A higher stall torque converter with some sticky tires should make up some time on the short end.
07-01-2008, 04:48 PM
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Want to go under 13.0?? buy a faster car.. The TL has 4 doors.. ...go buy a porsche or corvette is you want race it..
Why do poeple race a 4 door car???
Why waste money trying to make it fast?? Buy a sports car, then dump tons of $$ in it to make it fast...... Why do you never see a "Sports Car" with 4 doors.. Because it would not be a "Sports Car", its a sedan...
...go buy a porsche or corvette is you want race it.. Why do poeple race a 4 door car???
Why waste money trying to make it fast?? Buy a sports car, then dump tons of $$ in it to make it fast...... Why do you never see a "Sports Car" with 4 doors.. Because it would not be a "Sports Car", its a sedan...
07-01-2008, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WRXtranceformed
I've had a couple of fast 4 doors 
One of the highest horsepower cars I've ever personally seen on the dyno was a turbocharged IS300, also 4 doors!
One of the highest horsepower cars I've ever personally seen on the dyno was a turbocharged IS300, also 4 doors!
ive heard of some sick IS300, with huge ass turbos and crap.
07-01-2008, 05:35 PM
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Want to go under 13.0?? buy a faster car.. The TL has 4 doors.. ...go buy a porsche or corvette is you want race it..
Why do poeple race a 4 door car??? Why waste money trying to make it fast?? Buy a sports car, then dump tons of $$ in it to make it fast...... Why do you never see a "Sports Car" with 4 doors.. Because it would not be a "Sports Car", its a sedan...
...go buy a porsche or corvette is you want race it.. Why do poeple race a 4 door car???
Why waste money trying to make it fast?? Buy a sports car, then dump tons of $$ in it to make it fast...... Why do you never see a "Sports Car" with 4 doors.. Because it would not be a "Sports Car", its a sedan...
07-01-2008, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Maybe I'm missing something here, but what does door count have to do with anything? Some of the most capable, potent cars on this planet, ie. M Series, S Series, AMG, STI, EVO etc come with doors. Most people can't afford a dedicated sports car. Nothing wrong with having a four door that excels in most or all aspects of performance.
Anything is possible, but going to require some serious work and $$$$. After all, not really worth it.
Op, if you are trying make your tl 1/4mile car, then you are looking at a wrong car.
07-01-2008, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
There are no TLs that trap 110mph or even close so it looks like tires will be very important to getting you to the 12s. Great, you have more mph, maybe you can brag about your hp to make you feel better after you lose a race.
The winner of a drag race is whoever gets there first. Who cares who's going faster past the line, you still lose. The OP asked if a TL-S with mods could break a 13.0. Tires are a very important mod.
As for slicks, that's what I said, it would probably take slicks to pull a 1.7 but it has been done on drag radials too. For that matter, I've never seen a TL on drag radials either and those are perfectly fine to daily drive on. Traction is one of the biggest handicaps of these FWD cars and I don't know why people pass up the great equalizer.
Unfortunately your attitude is shared by many and that's why there's not one single fast TL around.
The winner of a drag race is whoever gets there first. Who cares who's going faster past the line, you still lose. The OP asked if a TL-S with mods could break a 13.0. Tires are a very important mod.
As for slicks, that's what I said, it would probably take slicks to pull a 1.7 but it has been done on drag radials too. For that matter, I've never seen a TL on drag radials either and those are perfectly fine to daily drive on. Traction is one of the biggest handicaps of these FWD cars and I don't know why people pass up the great equalizer.
Unfortunately your attitude is shared by many and that's why there's not one single fast TL around.
I completely agree that tires are an essential part of any drag or even street car. D/R's are a great investment. Though they only last 10,000 miles, the traction is great. As for slicks I'd never run them just for fear of snapping an axle or fragging the clutch or trans. + cost of drag only rims, spacers, and tires.
And yes whoever gets there first, but I as well as many others don't primarily race at the track. Some don't race at all. But if I'd have to guess the majority of people who do race do it on the street and mph wins most of those races. As illegal as it is, it can be done safely :flamesuit on:
Simple difference of a "quick" car and a "fast" car.
07-01-2008, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WRXtranceformed
A lot of good points have been brought up. Slicks or D/Rs would be the best bet for the car bar none. I did a little bit of searching around here today because I was bored, but it doesn't seem like a lot of people with ATs do valvebody or torque converter upgrades. A higher stall torque converter with some sticky tires should make up some time on the short end.
A few years back, we had this guy, "Dr. Evil" .. he apparantly adjusted the TQ convertors for the Acuras, but we all think it was a scam...he just painted it red, and charged you like $700..
my mechanic is VERY interested in doing some type of "transmission" mod on my car.. .i dont really want to be the guinea pig, but its been in the back of mind for a while.... maybe... just maybe, ill cross into that threshold
07-01-2008, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
nobodys messed with the tq convertor yet, huh....
A few years back, we had this guy, "Dr. Evil" .. he apparantly adjusted the TQ convertors for the Acuras, but we all think it was a scam...he just painted it red, and charged you like $700..
my mechanic is VERY interested in doing some type of "transmission" mod on my car.. .i dont really want to be the guinea pig, but its been in the back of mind for a while.... maybe... just maybe, ill cross into that threshold
A few years back, we had this guy, "Dr. Evil" .. he apparantly adjusted the TQ convertors for the Acuras, but we all think it was a scam...he just painted it red, and charged you like $700..
my mechanic is VERY interested in doing some type of "transmission" mod on my car.. .i dont really want to be the guinea pig, but its been in the back of mind for a while.... maybe... just maybe, ill cross into that threshold
07-01-2008, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_brains510
if you do decide to go through with it, i'll be next in line...i looked into torque converters for our cars and guess what...there are NONE!! I think this would really be a huge help.