Yeah, the 6-speeds have cooler drivers

 

Performance tires were optional. I have a 2006 6mt with original all season michelin tires. They need to be replaced after 5 years and 22k miles.

 

I suppose none of us has mentioned the far higher amount of brake dust associated with those Brembos!

 

Hey I'm new to this forum....

I noticed you guys forgot a big one in the differences...

Here is a little excerpt from the www.hondanews.com website about torque steer with the 06 TL

"Torque steer (the tendency for some front wheel drive cars to pull to the left or right during hard acceleration, especially in a turn) can be accentuated in high-performance front wheel drive cars when they are equipped with a limited slip differential. For 2006, Acura has taken steps to reduce torque steer in TLs equipped with a manual transmission. When the TL is in first or second gear, input from gear position, speed and steering angle sensors is used by the ECU to reduce power during acceleration, thus reducing torque steer. In first gear, torque can be reduced between 13 and 27 percent at full throttle, while in second gear, torque is reduced between zero and 10 percent. Torque output is reduced proportionately based on steering input--the larger the steering angle, the greater the reduction in torque. For those desiring maximum possible acceleration switching off the VSA also eliminates this torque reduction. This steering enhancement allows the TL to maintain the sporty, fun-to-drive character while providing more precise steering control."

Does anyone at all have any experience with this??? I am going to buy an Acura TL 6MT soon but I'm not sure if it's worth it to buy a 06 for this feature...What would you guys suggest? Is the torque steer really that bad? This is the only thing that is troubling me with this car. It's either this or the s60 t5, but Im pretty solid on the acura. Thanks everyone

 

i never driven an auto TL, but I can tell you that at a stop light taking a right or left hand turn will result in torque steer at full throttle. things get pretty squirrley pretty fast. I have learned not to take turns at full throttle.

 

But since you have an 06 that makes me wonder about the 04 and 05 versions ya know? Your car has the torque system (and the nav that I want too) Does it have torque steer at full throttle only?

 

My '06 5at had bad torque steer when new. With a set of sticky tires, none whatsoever now.

I think we need to clarify one thing though. I think we're getting true torque steer confused with tire spin that makes the wheel jerk left and right. In fact tire spin is what I was referring to above. With no spin, any pulling to the side (true torque steer) is nearly non existent.

 

I am due for new tires soon.
will let you know!


akajambas.....I have to think ahead of turns and think about how much throttle to give while thinking about what gear i am in.
if i get it on half throttle in first, squirrely heaven....cannot accelerate through the full RPM band, during a turn. right as soon as i'm exiting the apex of the turn, I HAVE TO BE IN 2nd GEAR. then i can mash all i want.
straight line, i can accelerate through 1st gear, without torque steer.


with a rwd car, i can just mash the gas through a turn without thinking too much and just focus on the road.



I just re-read that, and that was horrible.
let me know if you want me to clear things up.

 

You're in Houston, get the Nitto NT05! You will love it. Even wet traction is great. The only thing I would worry about is deep standing water.

 

shit, shes a garage queen. she doesnt get driven during the raiN!!!!!!
the only thing i'm worried about is tire life.
but i see that you drive pretty hard, and have no problems...how many miles can you go on the NT05?
I'm about to go for 255s as well.

 

Honestly, 20,000 miles but that's with spirited driving. Luckily that's 3-4 years now vs 1 year when I used to commute a lot.

I won't get into details in this thread but I got to compare the NT05 against some full race R compound tires and the Nittos are IMO a better street tire. Going to dig up the old NT05 thread now and post my results.

 

no, ive read your post and fully agree with you. ive only driven 9,000 miles in less than 1 year.
in a couple of months, I will get the Nittos. thank you sir.
right now rockin the Eagle GT's

 

Haha nah it clears things up, makes sense too with a FWD. I doubt I will be flooring it out of corners very often lol so I don't think it will really apply to me, unless I make it that way. Buuut I might save the extra coin and go for an IS350 though...those cars are really expensive though compared to the acura TL. But at the same time they are rockets. Obviously as you can see I am attracted to reliability and power just like everrrryone else. But thanks for clearing things up

 

You are thinking of the optional A-Spec package. Most of the pricey package was cosmetic, so I just purchased the suspension bits. The springs and shocks were re-valved (for a firmer and less floaty ride) and ride height was indeed dropped. Adding the 18" wheels and 245/40 tires made a nice performance improvement.

rw

 

I almost sure the sway bars are the same for both cars, manual or automatic transmission.

 

one is thicker!
guess which one.

 

07-08 Tl-S with automatic transmission has Brembo brakes too

 

They have same manufacturer part number, that's mean they are exactly the same.