Ceramic Pads and Break Dust
08-31-2011, 09:23 AM
#1
Ceramic Pads and Break Dust
I had ceramic pads installed on my 05 awhile back as the local shop said they won't generate as much dust as the stock pads. All I can say is BULLSHIT!!! Within 2 days my front wheels need cleaning. I'm not sure what kind they are but in my opinion they seem worse than stock pads and I don't drive or brake hard. Pretty much normal driving. What are some of your guys experiences?
08-31-2011, 09:26 AM
#2
I went from stock brembo pads(which dusted in matter of mins.) to a ceramic pad.
I have dramatically less dusting than the brembo pads.
Also, one has to question your pads, since you dont really know what was put on.
the mechanic could have used a regular pad and told you it was ceramic.
Also, Ceramic pads do dust.
but instead of a dark color its more of a white layer of dust. so you really cant see it, unless you swipe your finger.
I have dramatically less dusting than the brembo pads.
Also, one has to question your pads, since you dont really know what was put on.
the mechanic could have used a regular pad and told you it was ceramic.
Also, Ceramic pads do dust.
but instead of a dark color its more of a white layer of dust. so you really cant see it, unless you swipe your finger.
Last edited by justnspace; 08-31-2011 at 09:28 AM.
08-31-2011, 09:32 AM
#3
I went from stock brembo pads(which dusted in matter of mins.) to a ceramic pad.
I have dramatically less dusting than the brembo pads.
Also, one has to question your pads, since you dont really know what was put on.
the mechanic could have used a regular pad and told you it was ceramic.
Also, Ceramic pads do dust.
but instead of a dark color its more of a white layer of dust. so you really cant see it, unless you swipe your finger.
I have dramatically less dusting than the brembo pads.
Also, one has to question your pads, since you dont really know what was put on.
the mechanic could have used a regular pad and told you it was ceramic.
Also, Ceramic pads do dust.
but instead of a dark color its more of a white layer of dust. so you really cant see it, unless you swipe your finger.
08-31-2011, 10:22 AM
#4
Safety Car
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Hummm interesting regarding dusting from ceramics. My current Type S 6mt I purchased and the original owner put on the autozone cmaxx ceramic pads. Right now my car sits in the garage and I have not cleaned the wheels in literally 4 weeks. I do however quick detail the car every other day. There is a very slight coating of dust on the wheels but its very minor and you couldnt tell either way since the wheels are dark to begin with.
Basically 4 weeks driving and dust build up with cmaxx golds is about equivalent to 2 days of dust from stock pads. Big difference.
Basically 4 weeks driving and dust build up with cmaxx golds is about equivalent to 2 days of dust from stock pads. Big difference.
08-31-2011, 10:49 AM
#5
the overexplainer
your pads are either dragging or you're riding the brakes. Or as mentioned above you were scammed.
My CMAX pads dust significantly less than the stock brembos.
My CMAX pads dust significantly less than the stock brembos.
08-31-2011, 11:09 AM
#6
Three Wheelin'
I currently have StopTech Street Performance break pads and the dust is just crazy. I clean my wheels and after 3-4 days they are black again. My daily commute to work consist of 70% hwy and 30% city with a total of 21miles.
When I used to have the Rotora pads it used to take months before I had to clean my wheels. I should've bought Rotora pads again.
When I used to have the Rotora pads it used to take months before I had to clean my wheels. I should've bought Rotora pads again.
08-31-2011, 11:36 AM
#7
I currently have StopTech Street Performance break pads and the dust is just crazy. I clean my wheels and after 3-4 days they are black again. My daily commute to work consist of 70% hwy and 30% city with a total of 21miles.
When I used to have the Rotora pads it used to take months before I had to clean my wheels. I should've bought Rotora pads again.
When I used to have the Rotora pads it used to take months before I had to clean my wheels. I should've bought Rotora pads again.
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08-31-2011, 11:37 AM
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With the chaos of moving and switching jobs I finally washed my car the other day after 2 months of no washing and daily driving. There was barely more dust on the front than the rear wheels. I use the duralast cmax pads.
Edit: Also with the stock pads, I could wash my car at the self wash, wipe down the wheels, drive home 2 miles and I could wipe them again. I do not even remotely get that much dust anymore.
Edit: Also with the stock pads, I could wash my car at the self wash, wipe down the wheels, drive home 2 miles and I could wipe them again. I do not even remotely get that much dust anymore.
08-31-2011, 11:39 AM
#9
I did the same thing. i had my pads changed to ceramic Duralast CMAX Gold from Autozone and I have a bunch of dust.
For the first few weeks it was MUCH less than the original pads I had on there. After a few months now, it's better than OEM pads but still isn't that great. I generally have to do it once a week. Meh. I kinda regret the 60 bucks I spent. Luckily I didn't pay labor; I had the guy throw them on while he was replacing my suspension.
Gluck
For the first few weeks it was MUCH less than the original pads I had on there. After a few months now, it's better than OEM pads but still isn't that great. I generally have to do it once a week. Meh. I kinda regret the 60 bucks I spent. Luckily I didn't pay labor; I had the guy throw them on while he was replacing my suspension.
Gluck
08-31-2011, 03:15 PM
#12
CMAX has less than stock.. but it does have it.. my front wheels havent been washed in 3000 miles.. ya I know... but it isnt as bad as when I had stock pads for similar 3000 miles.. you will not find a ceramic that doesnt dust.. the CMAX though dust the least from all the ceramic pads I have had
09-01-2011, 06:24 AM
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09-01-2011, 09:26 AM
#17
Sleeper 22: Do you have a 6MT or 5AT?
CMAX will make a lot less dust than the stock 6MT "brembo" pads, and more dust than the 5AT's stock pads.
If you want long life and low dust, get Akebono pads (none for 6MT). They make the OEM pads on most hondas. On both my 03 Element and 04 Pilot, we managed over 90k miles on one set. In fact, were over 100k now on the orignial set of rear pads in the pilot. Still about 1/4" left too. The nicest part is that they are so gentel on the rotors, I didn't even have to worry about having them machined for the new pads. Just swap & go (re-lubed the caliper of course).
I used CMAX on my mother-in-laws 03 Pilot and she burned through the fronts in 2 just years. They also did some heavy scoring to the rotors. So instead of buying new $40 pads (cause they were under warranty), we had to buy $70 rotors. I won't ever use CMAX pads again.
Akebono pads come in several performance levels. They say they are all ceramic mix. Just keep in mind that the higher "performance" level a pad is, the more dust it will make.
CMAX will make a lot less dust than the stock 6MT "brembo" pads, and more dust than the 5AT's stock pads.
If you want long life and low dust, get Akebono pads (none for 6MT). They make the OEM pads on most hondas. On both my 03 Element and 04 Pilot, we managed over 90k miles on one set. In fact, were over 100k now on the orignial set of rear pads in the pilot. Still about 1/4" left too. The nicest part is that they are so gentel on the rotors, I didn't even have to worry about having them machined for the new pads. Just swap & go (re-lubed the caliper of course).
I used CMAX on my mother-in-laws 03 Pilot and she burned through the fronts in 2 just years. They also did some heavy scoring to the rotors. So instead of buying new $40 pads (cause they were under warranty), we had to buy $70 rotors. I won't ever use CMAX pads again.
Akebono pads come in several performance levels. They say they are all ceramic mix. Just keep in mind that the higher "performance" level a pad is, the more dust it will make.
Last edited by 94eg!; 09-01-2011 at 09:28 AM.
09-01-2011, 10:22 AM
#18
Sleeper 22: Do you have a 6MT or 5AT?
CMAX will make a lot less dust than the stock 6MT "brembo" pads, and more dust than the 5AT's stock pads.
If you want long life and low dust, get Akebono pads (none for 6MT). They make the OEM pads on most hondas. On both my 03 Element and 04 Pilot, we managed over 90k miles on one set. In fact, were over 100k now on the orignial set of rear pads in the pilot. Still about 1/4" left too. The nicest part is that they are so gentel on the rotors, I didn't even have to worry about having them machined for the new pads. Just swap & go (re-lubed the caliper of course).
I used CMAX on my mother-in-laws 03 Pilot and she burned through the fronts in 2 just years. They also did some heavy scoring to the rotors. So instead of buying new $40 pads (cause they were under warranty), we had to buy $70 rotors. I won't ever use CMAX pads again.
Akebono pads come in several performance levels. They say they are all ceramic mix. Just keep in mind that the higher "performance" level a pad is, the more dust it will make.
CMAX will make a lot less dust than the stock 6MT "brembo" pads, and more dust than the 5AT's stock pads.
If you want long life and low dust, get Akebono pads (none for 6MT). They make the OEM pads on most hondas. On both my 03 Element and 04 Pilot, we managed over 90k miles on one set. In fact, were over 100k now on the orignial set of rear pads in the pilot. Still about 1/4" left too. The nicest part is that they are so gentel on the rotors, I didn't even have to worry about having them machined for the new pads. Just swap & go (re-lubed the caliper of course).
I used CMAX on my mother-in-laws 03 Pilot and she burned through the fronts in 2 just years. They also did some heavy scoring to the rotors. So instead of buying new $40 pads (cause they were under warranty), we had to buy $70 rotors. I won't ever use CMAX pads again.
Akebono pads come in several performance levels. They say they are all ceramic mix. Just keep in mind that the higher "performance" level a pad is, the more dust it will make.
09-01-2011, 02:07 PM
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09-01-2011, 02:37 PM
#21
Team Owner
They're going to dust more in the first couple days. There is some amount of break-in involved where they will dust a little more. Wash the car and give them another chance.
09-01-2011, 02:49 PM
#22
IHC they are well broken in and I am surprised that they generate this much dust. No better than the stock pads.
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09-01-2011, 03:08 PM
#23
You can also get a can of that new Armor All Wheel Protectant. It's like $8 at the autoparts store for this tiny little aerosol can, but it sure works. I bought a can for my Civic w/ Axxis Ultimates in the rear. last time I detailed it. The stuff definitely works as advertised. It's been 3 months and one wash, and my rear wheels still stay the same color as my fronts. Usually the rear wheels would get black spots after just 1 week.
The stuff sprays like hair-spray, and goes on as thin as water. Can still seems full after one use (205/40-16). They say the longer you let it dry on the wheels, the better it will work. I went around my wheels twice in a row and didn't wipe any of it off. I let it sit all evening (4 hours or so) before driving.
I am really impressed with this stuff...
The stuff sprays like hair-spray, and goes on as thin as water. Can still seems full after one use (205/40-16). They say the longer you let it dry on the wheels, the better it will work. I went around my wheels twice in a row and didn't wipe any of it off. I let it sit all evening (4 hours or so) before driving.
I am really impressed with this stuff...
09-01-2011, 03:12 PM
#24
Team Owner
"Ceramic" can be a wide range of material compositions. Some barely dust, some are horrible. Most factory pads are ceramic. I know the 5at pads are and I would bet money the Brembos are too.
My racing ceramic pads dust terribly. After a week of 3 miles round trip per day, my front rims are black. I have a feeling the slots and holes don't help but it's mostly the pad composition and the fact that I'm running them way too cold most of the time.
Ceramics "usually" dust less
Ceramics "usually" are easier on the rotors
Ceramics "usually" are quieter
But there are exceptions to all of these.
09-01-2011, 03:18 PM
#26
Team Owner
09-01-2011, 03:28 PM
#28
Team Owner
09-01-2011, 03:40 PM
#29
I'll say it again...
The greater the priority for performance (friction & heat-range), the less the priority for dust, longevity, rotor-life, noise, etc. It doesn't matter what the base elements of the pad compound are (ceramic, metalic, carbon, etc...), the final performance is a series of compromises.
A jack of all trades is a master of none.
The greater the priority for performance (friction & heat-range), the less the priority for dust, longevity, rotor-life, noise, etc. It doesn't matter what the base elements of the pad compound are (ceramic, metalic, carbon, etc...), the final performance is a series of compromises.
A jack of all trades is a master of none.
09-01-2011, 07:45 PM
#30
Team Owner
I'll say it again...
The greater the priority for performance (friction & heat-range), the less the priority for dust, longevity, rotor-life, noise, etc. It doesn't matter what the base elements of the pad compound are (ceramic, metalic, carbon, etc...), the final performance is a series of compromises.
A jack of all trades is a master of none.
The greater the priority for performance (friction & heat-range), the less the priority for dust, longevity, rotor-life, noise, etc. It doesn't matter what the base elements of the pad compound are (ceramic, metalic, carbon, etc...), the final performance is a series of compromises.
A jack of all trades is a master of none.
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