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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:44 PM
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Brake problem

i just purchased a brake kit from excelerate which consisted of stoptech pads, drilled and slotted rotors, stainless lines and motul brake fluid and installed today and something is not right. the car does not stop for ****. i bled the lines and filled with new fluid and everything seems to be all bolted back together correct. no lights on (vsa). what could be the problem? can you bleed the abs, and if so does this need to be done?
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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first thing anyones gonna ask you is

did you properly bed the new pads to your rotors?
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 12:08 AM
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Did you make sure you bled the brakes correctly? Start with the front driver, then front pass, rear pass, last rear driver. I had to bleed mine about 5 times just to get it to feel right and i was pulling my hair out (not literaly) becuase i didnt think it would take that many times, But i finnaly got it. if pussible i would recommend an on the car lathe to cut them because of hub runout.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jokerman826
Did you make sure you bled the brakes correctly? Start with the front driver, then front pass, rear pass, last rear driver. I had to bleed mine about 5 times just to get it to feel right and i was pulling my hair out (not literaly) becuase i didnt think it would take that many times, But i finnaly got it. if pussible i would recommend an on the car lathe to cut them because of hub runout.
I think you may have that a bit confused, you want to start the farthest away from the master cylinder when bleeding the lines. I prefer going passenger rear, driver rear, passenger front, driver front.

I do agree though, sounds like you still have air lurking in the lines.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ohsixMTee
I think you may have that a bit confused, you want to start the farthest away from the master cylinder when bleeding the lines. I prefer going passenger rear, driver rear, passenger front, driver front.

I do agree though, sounds like you still have air lurking in the lines.
The Acura Brake System Bleeding procedure:

Front caliper for the Brembo, bleed the outside piston, then the inside.

Front left
Front Right
Rear Right
Rear Left

Need to make certain no air in system.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
The Acura Brake System Bleeding procedure:

Front caliper for the Brembo, bleed the outside piston, then the inside.

Front left
Front Right
Rear Right
Rear Left

Need to make certain no air in system.
Thanks I knew I had that correct when i wrote it, I just looked at the service manual before I wrote my comment.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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would this be the correct procedure for non-brembos?

just sayin...the OP never said he had brembos....


but agreed he has air in his lines, he needs to re-bleed.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
would this be the correct procedure for non-brembos?

just sayin...the OP never said he had brembos....


but agreed he has air in his lines, he needs to re-bleed.
Yup, but just one bleeder at each front caliper on the A/T non Type S.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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^gotcha.

OP, it's a two man job. get some help!
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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  1. After installing new brake pads, make 6 to 10 stops from approximately 30-35 mph applying moderate pressure.
  2. Make an additional 2 to 3 hard stops from approximately 40 to 45 mph.
  3. DO NOT DRAG BRAKES!
  4. Allow 15 minutes for brake system to cool down.
  5. After step 4 your new pads are ready for use.
http://www.hawkperformance.com/performance/burnish.php
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:37 AM
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^i think he needs to solve his bleeding issues before he can bed the pads
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^i think he needs to solve his bleeding issues before he can bed the pads

does he have a spongy/dropping pedal? or does his car just not stop? OP has yet to return. i still got my money on no bedding

regardless i'm putting it here before someone is too lazy to search,even though their question of "how do you bed brakes" on here is exactly the same amount of work as the google toolbar.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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^he was unclear....so we dont know if its the bedding or the bleeding.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^gotcha.

OP, it's a two man job. get some help!
Actually one person can do the job without special equipment. You can undo bleeders and let gravity drain, messy and takes a while, or install a hose over the bleeder and put the other end in a conatiner flilled brake fluid, open bleeder and slowly depress the pedal. The fluid will be expelled into the container and when the pedal comes up no air will be able to enter the hose as the end in under the fluid level. Some put grease around the bleeder where it enters the caliper just to be certain no air enters through the threads. Easy and you can sit and listen to music. Just keep the MC filled.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Actually one person can do the job without special equipment. You can undo bleeders and let gravity drain, messy and takes a while, or install a hose over the bleeder and put the other end in a conatiner flilled brake fluid, open bleeder and slowly depress the pedal. The fluid will be expelled into the container and when the pedal comes up no air will be able to enter the hose as the end in under the fluid level. Some put grease around the bleeder where it enters the caliper just to be certain no air enters through the threads. Easy and you can sit and listen to music. Just keep the MC filled.
i was going to say that as well, but not the gravity part. that's just gonna ruin your garage floor
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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If the car doesn't stop then you have air in the brake lines. Try opening up all the bleeders and doing a gravity bleed for an hour. Place a bowl underneath each caliper. Monitor the level. Or you can have someone pump the brakes and then open the bleeders a few times to force the air to the surface.

Use this link as a guide:

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...edbrakes.shtml
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
The Acura Brake System Bleeding procedure:

Front caliper for the Brembo, bleed the outside piston, then the inside.

Front left
Front Right
Rear Right
Rear Left

Need to make certain no air in system.
Very interesting, thank you for the correction.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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I re bleed the lines again in the order listed above and everythig is working great now. Thanks
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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good. now that they work; bed them properly!
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