BLACK CHROME now at HEELTOE ONLY
08-21-2010, 06:18 PM
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seems like a good idea but like everyone is saying the price is crazy...the A emblems are around 20 bucks form the stealership x2 is around 40-50 bucks
so 40 dollars for some blackchrome paint? no thank you
but good work on making moves for us! any aftermarket parts are a good thing for the TLs
so 40 dollars for some blackchrome paint? no thank you
but good work on making moves for us! any aftermarket parts are a good thing for the TLs
08-21-2010, 08:04 PM
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seems like a good idea but like everyone is saying the price is crazy...the A emblems are around 20 bucks form the stealership x2 is around 40-50 bucks
so 40 dollars for some blackchrome paint? no thank you
but good work on making moves for us! any aftermarket parts are a good thing for the TLs
so 40 dollars for some blackchrome paint? no thank you
but good work on making moves for us! any aftermarket parts are a good thing for the TLs
08-22-2010, 03:00 PM
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LOWER!!!!!
08-22-2010, 04:34 PM
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These are NOT painted. They are real chrome plating on plastic. Will post a detailed review when I receive my set.
I have been following Marcus' efforts on these for some time. I know he went through a bunch of shit to get them produced.
Emblems from the factory run between $15 and $20 for each piece. So its $40 for the two A emblems alone, plus the chroming charge and a bit of profit for Marcus. This is America, after all.
Many Aziners, myself included, have been looking for the black chrome look for our emblems. I have tried the VHT Nightshades on my emblems and got pretty good with it, but there was always some blotchiness from the spray can that I just could not get rid of. These are the real deal---electroplated with black chrome. The pics on Heeltoe's website look great, but I can't wait to see them for myself. I hope that being an early purchaser means I get one from the first batch quickly.
Thank you again, Marcus. I am glad you pursued this effort for us.
I have been following Marcus' efforts on these for some time. I know he went through a bunch of shit to get them produced.
Emblems from the factory run between $15 and $20 for each piece. So its $40 for the two A emblems alone, plus the chroming charge and a bit of profit for Marcus. This is America, after all.
Many Aziners, myself included, have been looking for the black chrome look for our emblems. I have tried the VHT Nightshades on my emblems and got pretty good with it, but there was always some blotchiness from the spray can that I just could not get rid of. These are the real deal---electroplated with black chrome. The pics on Heeltoe's website look great, but I can't wait to see them for myself. I hope that being an early purchaser means I get one from the first batch quickly.
Thank you again, Marcus. I am glad you pursued this effort for us.
08-23-2010, 07:49 AM
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Looks awesome...Been looking for something like this for a while now...Any chance on a Type S package?? And possibly a black chrome front grill?? For a NBP that would just set the car off perfect.
08-23-2010, 10:00 AM
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This is what I'm looking for but if this was also done for the Type-S emblem than I would be all over it. If u can get the type s emblem done let me know. 
Any chance of getting the chrome piece that is above the emblem on the hood, the chrome part that also holds the front "A" emblem, chrome part on trunk (above the license plate) in the same black chrome finish for 07-08 model? If so, let me know the price.
Any chance of getting the chrome piece that is above the emblem on the hood, the chrome part that also holds the front "A" emblem, chrome part on trunk (above the license plate) in the same black chrome finish for 07-08 model? If so, let me know the price.
08-30-2010, 03:09 PM
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WOW What a mix of responses. I knew you guys would have some really nice criticism, questions and suggestions. 
Now that I am back from vacation, I'll address some of the comments.
We have all but the actual "Type-S" emblem which is not conducive to being chromed really..I am still working on that. Just the same, I would not let that one emblem stop you from getting the look though. Naysayers simply don't KNOW what this finish is or looks like.
ANY Type-S would look bad ass with these because they match the factory grille and tails really well, almost perfect
Yes. Actually, the factory sticky shit comes off in the chroming process so we need to supply a new strip of it. It is the same stuff pretty much, 3M VHB. You just have to trim off proper sized pieces and stick them on. You won't get as much stick-age as the true factory emblems but you will get more than enough to handle hand car washes, 100 degree heat, etc. Getting a die made for each logo to cut specific tape shapes would be WAAAAYYY too expensive (heh, you think they are pricey now?)
Yes. Real black chrome that will have a lifetime finish on it. Not black nickel that will get yellow looking over time and eventually completely fade to a bright finish again. This is the same hard, durable finish that comes on the factory emblems, but in a super-sick dark tone. We can do any parts you want, but we have to keep the cost open ended until we get quotation from the processor, which means you'll need the parts sent to us for a quote.
I figured a lot of people would think that when I was calculating the pricing. But what you don't know about this pricing/process is the following:
1. This process is not cheap. Real chrome is not a cheap process as many would thing it is. It is sort of like painting. Everyone with a loco cousin Chuey will say they got a hookup on painting lips and body kits, which is great until you see the work. We have been working with 3 different shops on this chrome deal and had a place that cost half as much but I don't want to begin discussing the nightmare experience I had with the lead time and product quality. The last thing we want is to ship emblems with tons of blemishes, different colors from one to the next, peel after 6 months, etc. I don't think you want that either. We are paying a lot for these to be done and unfortunately the cost gets passed on a bit.
2. There is a butt load of work in this for me to do. I have to get emblems done in big batches which is a lot of overhead and running around for us. Likewise sometimes in the plating process the emblems warp and I need to whip out the heat gun to correct them (even the ACURA one in the pic I see I need to work on). Then we have to pack them so they don't get broken or damaged in shipping. Frankly, it needs to be worth my while, but I think it is worth pushing because no matter how you look at it, you can't deny these things look bad ass.
3. Every chromer I talked to told me that if someone walked in off the street with 2-4 emblems to get done in this finish the cost would be about $40 per emblem. We are charging significantly less than this because we are getting 50+ done at a time. I am not even charging full price on the brand new factory emblems we are processing! So we are profiting on the volume here really, not on the per part cost. Per part it seems pricey but really it is a good deal. We have had to make a serious commitment to this project because we believe is is so cool that people will want it.
4. The price isn't what I wanted either but since we are already selling kits it can't be 'overpriced.' Some folks think our switchblades are overpriced but they are the best you can get and we've moved hundreds of them.
5. Think about it...these are expensive compared to what? Where else have you ever even been offered the option of getting this finish on your car? At best you've seen people paint them, and that NEVER comes out looking as good as it should. Even if the quality is good on the paint, emblems look best with some sort of reflective chrome/metal finish.
Well, actually, I think you'd find these emblems are pretty sick every color car. We have checked them out on all sorts of TSX colors from Red to Blue, and all shades of grey from white to black...it is cool no matter what. About the only color I would hesitate with is Desert Mist.
Again, ANY Type-S would look bad ass with these because they match the factory grille and tails really well, almost perfect
Well, some people we find value appearance over power and that is who we are targeting. Not those that want to get something to get it. We want those that really are going to appreciate the look. There is no sense in making it cheap because the price seems high when really the price is accurate for what you are getting.
Yes we have those available to order, just didn't do any in this batch. Note, the 07-08 TL is not connected at all, so they need to be fitted separately. Sticking these on might be tricky for some to get right. We are planning a tutorial video to help you get it done properly.
- Yes brand new OE emblems.
- Yes, we are covering them for life against defects and peeling as long as we are producing these.
- Yes, I didn't have time to line that up quite yet because of my vacation but I am getting on it ASAP. I have a set here for my TSX, waiting for the grille to be completed. Also we have the HT-Spec TL that we can stick them on as well.
Yes, and the dealer also produces the raw emblem (they are cheap) and makes hundreds or thousands of them in gold. The cost is in quantity. If I have the resources to reproduce the emblems on my own and plate that many I'd have them pretty cheap also.
This sounds like a pretty good idea. After all, I really do need 50 emblems or more to get a batch done...
Now that I am back from vacation, I'll address some of the comments.We have all but the actual "Type-S" emblem which is not conducive to being chromed really..I am still working on that. Just the same, I would not let that one emblem stop you from getting the look though. Naysayers simply don't KNOW what this finish is or looks like.
ANY Type-S would look bad ass with these because they match the factory grille and tails really well, almost perfect
Yes. Actually, the factory sticky shit comes off in the chroming process so we need to supply a new strip of it. It is the same stuff pretty much, 3M VHB. You just have to trim off proper sized pieces and stick them on. You won't get as much stick-age as the true factory emblems but you will get more than enough to handle hand car washes, 100 degree heat, etc. Getting a die made for each logo to cut specific tape shapes would be WAAAAYYY too expensive (heh, you think they are pricey now?)
1. This process is not cheap. Real chrome is not a cheap process as many would thing it is. It is sort of like painting. Everyone with a loco cousin Chuey will say they got a hookup on painting lips and body kits, which is great until you see the work. We have been working with 3 different shops on this chrome deal and had a place that cost half as much but I don't want to begin discussing the nightmare experience I had with the lead time and product quality. The last thing we want is to ship emblems with tons of blemishes, different colors from one to the next, peel after 6 months, etc. I don't think you want that either. We are paying a lot for these to be done and unfortunately the cost gets passed on a bit.
2. There is a butt load of work in this for me to do. I have to get emblems done in big batches which is a lot of overhead and running around for us. Likewise sometimes in the plating process the emblems warp and I need to whip out the heat gun to correct them (even the ACURA one in the pic I see I need to work on). Then we have to pack them so they don't get broken or damaged in shipping. Frankly, it needs to be worth my while, but I think it is worth pushing because no matter how you look at it, you can't deny these things look bad ass.
3. Every chromer I talked to told me that if someone walked in off the street with 2-4 emblems to get done in this finish the cost would be about $40 per emblem. We are charging significantly less than this because we are getting 50+ done at a time. I am not even charging full price on the brand new factory emblems we are processing! So we are profiting on the volume here really, not on the per part cost. Per part it seems pricey but really it is a good deal. We have had to make a serious commitment to this project because we believe is is so cool that people will want it.
4. The price isn't what I wanted either but since we are already selling kits it can't be 'overpriced.' Some folks think our switchblades are overpriced but they are the best you can get and we've moved hundreds of them.
5. Think about it...these are expensive compared to what? Where else have you ever even been offered the option of getting this finish on your car? At best you've seen people paint them, and that NEVER comes out looking as good as it should. Even if the quality is good on the paint, emblems look best with some sort of reflective chrome/metal finish.
Again, ANY Type-S would look bad ass with these because they match the factory grille and tails really well, almost perfect
THESE ARE BADASS!!! The price is not though. I think $200 is too much for this. Now I wouldnt have a problem paying $125/$135 ish (shipped) but when I think about a $200 mod to my car Im thinking something you can get out of it like a CAI. I'd be all over this like a fat kid on a cupcake for 130... Count me out at 200 tho. sorry.. I really REALLY like this man!! Good work!
Yes we have those available to order, just didn't do any in this batch. Note, the 07-08 TL is not connected at all, so they need to be fitted separately. Sticking these on might be tricky for some to get right. We are planning a tutorial video to help you get it done properly.
- Yes, we are covering them for life against defects and peeling as long as we are producing these.
- Yes, I didn't have time to line that up quite yet because of my vacation but I am getting on it ASAP. I have a set here for my TSX, waiting for the grille to be completed. Also we have the HT-Spec TL that we can stick them on as well.
This sounds like a pretty good idea. After all, I really do need 50 emblems or more to get a batch done...
08-30-2010, 08:54 PM
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09-01-2010, 02:51 PM
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Seriously guys, if you guys don't like the price than don't buy them.
I love them and I think they would look GREAT on a NBP, problem is, there are so many options that I want (performance and cosmetic).
Nonetheless, great product by a great company. Nothing else too it. Like em, buy it. Hate em, don't. Just don't spread your hatred in the thread, thanks.
I love them and I think they would look GREAT on a NBP, problem is, there are so many options that I want (performance and cosmetic).
Nonetheless, great product by a great company. Nothing else too it. Like em, buy it. Hate em, don't. Just don't spread your hatred in the thread, thanks.
09-01-2010, 04:29 PM
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I don't think there is much hating here...but I do get the point. The price is not cheap but neither are the parts. Honestly I am a little surprised what people will pay for light bulbs but won't pay for emblems. Anyway, I did tinker with the prices a bit and started a GB feeler thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/black-chrome-group-buy-interest-thread-789999/
I found some room in the parts, although it isn't as cheap as some mentioned it should be pretty reasonable if we can go in qty.
Marcus
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/black-chrome-group-buy-interest-thread-789999/
I found some room in the parts, although it isn't as cheap as some mentioned it should be pretty reasonable if we can go in qty.
Marcus
09-09-2010, 08:16 PM
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Price dosent really bother me...especially if it is quality work. Being as this is the only place to get them...SUPPLY AND DEMAND. Just the way the system works. As soon as the Type S kit is out I am def In...cant wait to see a finished product.
12-27-2010, 05:22 PM
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I posted pics of mine side by side with OEM before I sent them off to be Amp'd (https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=789999).
I expect them to be shipped back to me this week and hope to install this weekend. Update to come.
I expect them to be shipped back to me this week and hope to install this weekend. Update to come.
12-27-2010, 07:38 PM
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These emblems will look great on any car with tint and/or doing gun metal rims. Honda offered black chrome emblems for the S2000. I had them on my silverstone Metallic and it looked great. I'll def be doing these when the spending money starts to flow again.
12-31-2010, 09:36 AM
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There are 4 8mm screws behind the cross piece holding it in. If you have small hands and loosen the bumper clips, you should be able to get a socket head in there to loosen them up. Once you get the cross piece out, there are 2 more small screws that hold the emblem in place.