Best brake pads for 04 TL 6MT
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Best brake pads for 04 TL 6MT
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My front brakes were squealing on slight application of the brake and so I took it to the dealer...they said they have to refinish the rotors and change the pads and that would cost me abt 600$ including labor and parts. So I decided to replace the rotors with new ones and change the pads my self. So I changed my front rotors with Brembo blanks and installed new EBC red stuff pads. But i see a lot of dust and am tired of cleaning every week. I also see lil groves on the rotor and on slight application of brake, i hear a squeal.
Could you all recommend a good pad that is not so expensive as the OEM pads ($275 at the dealership). I was told abt the Hawk HPS pads...but am not sure. EBC sucks..i hate the dust.
My front brakes were squealing on slight application of the brake and so I took it to the dealer...they said they have to refinish the rotors and change the pads and that would cost me abt 600$ including labor and parts. So I decided to replace the rotors with new ones and change the pads my self. So I changed my front rotors with Brembo blanks and installed new EBC red stuff pads. But i see a lot of dust and am tired of cleaning every week. I also see lil groves on the rotor and on slight application of brake, i hear a squeal.
Could you all recommend a good pad that is not so expensive as the OEM pads ($275 at the dealership). I was told abt the Hawk HPS pads...but am not sure. EBC sucks..i hate the dust.
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First off, did you bed the new pads in?
As for the dusting, this is exactly why I replaced my stock OEM pads on my '04 manual TL three years ago. I went with Rotex Gold Kevlar pads and the dusting was reduced around 80-90%. Really. Check them out.
BTW, my rotors were in excellent condition and did not require turning. I did bed the new pads in, of course. If you need more info on this, let me know.
As for the dusting, this is exactly why I replaced my stock OEM pads on my '04 manual TL three years ago. I went with Rotex Gold Kevlar pads and the dusting was reduced around 80-90%. Really. Check them out.
BTW, my rotors were in excellent condition and did not require turning. I did bed the new pads in, of course. If you need more info on this, let me know.
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Yes, I did bed the new pads. Even while bedding I heard squeals but I thought that would go away as the brakes fade...but I still have it. I have put more than 350 miles now but it has not gone away. I heard that the Rotex Gold Kevlar pads have lesser efficiency..is that true?
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DON'T get Hawk HPS if you're concerned about noise. Ceramic maybe.
I'd go Racing Brake ET Series (ET300 or ET500). I've got 'em on the '02 and ran them on the '07. No noise. Low dust on the '02; moderate on the '07 (better than OE dust, I think, but still require cleanup each car wash, about once a week).
Most people like EBC, but I don't know/recall about noise issues.
Make sure you use a good and proper coating of grease for the shims & pads.
I'd go Racing Brake ET Series (ET300 or ET500). I've got 'em on the '02 and ran them on the '07. No noise. Low dust on the '02; moderate on the '07 (better than OE dust, I think, but still require cleanup each car wash, about once a week).
Most people like EBC, but I don't know/recall about noise issues.
Make sure you use a good and proper coating of grease for the shims & pads.
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Yes, I did bed the new pads. Even while bedding I heard squeals but I thought that would go away as the brakes fade...but I still have it. I have put more than 350 miles now but it has not gone away. I heard that the Rotex Gold Kevlar pads have lesser efficiency..is that true?
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DON'T get Hawk HPS if you're concerned about noise. Ceramic maybe.
I'd go Racing Brake ET Series (ET300 or ET500). I've got 'em on the '02 and ran them on the '07. No noise. Low dust on the '02; moderate on the '07 (better than OE dust, I think, but still require cleanup each car wash, about once a week).
Most people like EBC, but I don't know/recall about noise issues.
Make sure you use a good and proper coating of grease for the shims & pads.
I'd go Racing Brake ET Series (ET300 or ET500). I've got 'em on the '02 and ran them on the '07. No noise. Low dust on the '02; moderate on the '07 (better than OE dust, I think, but still require cleanup each car wash, about once a week).
Most people like EBC, but I don't know/recall about noise issues.
Make sure you use a good and proper coating of grease for the shims & pads.
When I installed my Rotex pads three years ago, I didn't use the shims from the stock pads (or any others for that matter). Any chance of hurting anything by doing this?
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I'll second the RB ET300's. You can get them from MrHeeltoe.com, a vendor on this board. Be sure you grease the back of the pads (no shims required), the retainer pins, and the spring clips. Then do a good bed in. I have zero (and I do mean zero) dust from these pads, absolutely zero squealing, and performance equal to the OEM Brembo pads. Also, I did not resurface the rotors.
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This thread was right on time. I will be changing my pads in a month or two and wanted to get the Brembo cross drilled rotors from Tire Rack. Now I just have to narrow the pad choice down to either Rotex Gold Kevlar or Racing Brake ET 300.
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Only reason I recommend them is because of the changes Acura made (I think around 2005) to reduce brake noise.
- They changes the pad design to include chamfers;
- They changed the pad grease from MolyKote-77 to Brembo supplied grease;
- Finally, something with the shims (changed, added - not quite sure).
I just figure whatever I can do to avoid brake noise .... might as well.
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Hi,
My front brakes were squealing on slight application of the brake and so I took it to the dealer...they said they have to refinish the rotors and change the pads and that would cost me abt 600$ including labor and parts. So I decided to replace the rotors with new ones and change the pads my self. So I changed my front rotors with Brembo blanks and installed new EBC red stuff pads. But i see a lot of dust and am tired of cleaning every week. I also see lil groves on the rotor and on slight application of brake, i hear a squeal.
Could you all recommend a good pad that is not so expensive as the OEM pads ($275 at the dealership). I was told abt the Hawk HPS pads...but am not sure. EBC sucks..i hate the dust.
My front brakes were squealing on slight application of the brake and so I took it to the dealer...they said they have to refinish the rotors and change the pads and that would cost me abt 600$ including labor and parts. So I decided to replace the rotors with new ones and change the pads my self. So I changed my front rotors with Brembo blanks and installed new EBC red stuff pads. But i see a lot of dust and am tired of cleaning every week. I also see lil groves on the rotor and on slight application of brake, i hear a squeal.
Could you all recommend a good pad that is not so expensive as the OEM pads ($275 at the dealership). I was told abt the Hawk HPS pads...but am not sure. EBC sucks..i hate the dust.
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Oh and don't let thaat 5AT in my sig fool you, I have Brembos.
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When I had an '04 TL NBP 6mt I went with Brembo blanks all around and EBC YellowStuffs all around.
Loved em. Great initial bite (Even in a cold weather climate like Cleveland, OH), Zero fade and low dust.
www.perfectbrakes.com
www.buybrakes.com
IMO i'd recommend
miiipilot
Loved em. Great initial bite (Even in a cold weather climate like Cleveland, OH), Zero fade and low dust.
www.perfectbrakes.com
www.buybrakes.com
IMO i'd recommend
miiipilot
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I just need a QUIET pad. NO and i mean NO SQUEAL! I am so tired of brakes squealing with light application! I am sure i need to change the rotors. Should this help? Thinking of going with Rotora slotted and some RB or The rotex gold Kevlars. I am to the point i would rather put up with dust than the noise......
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I just need a QUIET pad. NO and i mean NO SQUEAL! I am so tired of brakes squealing with light application! I am sure i need to change the rotors. Should this help? Thinking of going with Rotora slotted and some RB or The rotex gold Kevlars. I am to the point i would rather put up with dust than the noise......
The Monroe tech support folks were very nice and sent me a set of their Dynamic (semi-metallics) which don't make that noise, but their braking power sucks compared to the OEM's and the Monroe Ceramics. Apparently, the head of Monroe Brakes tech support is very concerned to the point where he issued a UPS call tag and is expecting them back to give to their engineers to evaluate the problem. He said they'll find a 2004/5/6 6-Speed TL, install the same pads and EBC rotors then get back to me. We'll see.
The insane amount of dusting is the reason I didn't go with the OEM pads. I did find out they're made for Acura by Ferodo, the same company that makes Wagner, so I'm wondering if I should just go with Wagner Thermoquiet Quick Stops. But then my best buddy from high school who owned an auto parts store for 25 years said "BENDIX" 3 or 4 times over when I told him about all this. He claims that's the brand he always sold and never had complaints from customers.
From Rockauto.com:
BENDIX Part # MKD1049IQ
Front Import Quiet; Manual transmission .......... $35.99
Notice the word "Quiet"?
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The pads & shims had the Brembo logo stamped in them & the no-squeal grease was also in Brembo packaging
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ok, I am a bit confused. I too am in the market for new rotors and pads; I love the performance of the brembos. But if folks here are claiming the Brembos pads are outsourced, well then I will look elsewhere.
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About four years ago, a neighbor of mine, who's hobby is road racing, told me that Brembo does not make pads. They make the rotors and calipers. The pads are supplied to their specs.
Does anyone know if this true - then or now?
Does anyone know if this true - then or now?
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I was looking at the EBC rotors but i dont want the red pads or green. Its too ricey. any recommendations for pads with EBC rotors? do you guys also change the rear rotors too?
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Yeah, I read your earlier post about this. Thanks. I've had good service out of my Rotex Golds. They wear good and the extremely low dusting is the best plus for me - as long as they work well, which they do.
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hate to be a thread jack, but it looks like im on my way to changing brakes and rotors , i dont really want to spend a fortune nor do i have any mods or plan on racing my TL so what would be the best option for me?
thanks for these sites i'll check em out when i get home
When I had an '04 TL NBP 6mt I went with Brembo blanks all around and EBC YellowStuffs all around.
Loved em. Great initial bite (Even in a cold weather climate like Cleveland, OH), Zero fade and low dust.
www.perfectbrakes.com
www.buybrakes.com
IMO i'd recommend
miiipilot
Loved em. Great initial bite (Even in a cold weather climate like Cleveland, OH), Zero fade and low dust.
www.perfectbrakes.com
www.buybrakes.com
IMO i'd recommend
miiipilot
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i hear quite a few people swearing by the duralast ceramic gold pads lately. they said OEM stop quality with less dust...i duuunnnooo i wanna get the slotted brembos n those pads but i dont know
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I agree. I have heard many people say good things about the AZ pads. I think I'll give them a shot this week and I'll let everyone know how they are. I don't see the purpose in getting high perf pads and rotors for a TL like my track car, so the Duralast(AZ) pads should work fine.
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i have EBC Green Pads on my 6Spd... and once in awhile i might get a squeal, gets me sooo pissed that i even try goin up 2 100MPH and brakin down to 40mph and the freakin squeal is still there!!!
I might try out them Rotoras H2 soon, 2 c how they r might holler at josh!
I might try out them Rotoras H2 soon, 2 c how they r might holler at josh!
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I have EBC Green stuff, I've hated them since day one, squealed terrible for a month, now not so much but it still kills me. lots of dust. I've had them about a year and I'm searching posts for better options so obviously I'm getting rid of them. Still lots of wear left but I've had enough.
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I have EBC rotors and EBC yellows. They do not squeal in day to day driving.
The only time they squeal is when I'm driving very hard and get them very hot, and then lightly brake when pulling into a parking space immediately after the hard run.
Any race brake pad will do the exact same thing though.
I had brand new duralast rotors and gold pads and they were HORRIBLE.
Had the rotors resurfaced, pads decked and put them back on. Didn't squeal for a day, then started squealing again.
Then I tried friction master ceramics from advance. Squealed same day.
Then tried Wagner from Advance. Squealed same day. Then I ordered my EBC setup and i'v been loving life ever since. I bought it from buybrakes.com
The only time they squeal is when I'm driving very hard and get them very hot, and then lightly brake when pulling into a parking space immediately after the hard run.
Any race brake pad will do the exact same thing though.
I agree. I have heard many people say good things about the AZ pads. I think I'll give them a shot this week and I'll let everyone know how they are. I don't see the purpose in getting high perf pads and rotors for a TL like my track car, so the Duralast(AZ) pads should work fine.
Had the rotors resurfaced, pads decked and put them back on. Didn't squeal for a day, then started squealing again.
Then I tried friction master ceramics from advance. Squealed same day.
Then tried Wagner from Advance. Squealed same day. Then I ordered my EBC setup and i'v been loving life ever since. I bought it from buybrakes.com
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