fatty

Oil catch can

MNB04TL

damn nice engine.

Tripnbeats

I have 2 kinetik batteries.... i dont think it gets better than those batteries....and they are reallllly expensive

Spiritman

OK,

I just dropped in the Braille B7548. All he had to do was to cut the tray a little. Not much at all.
Now this is no light weight!! He comes in at 45 lbs. of pure lightning. CCA is 1285! This is a drop in BIG BOY!! Not a toy. I live in Minnesota. I need lots "o" CCA! I thought the price and power were the best in the biz. My local speed shop. Adrenalin Rush http://www.adrenalinrushllc.com/index.php
gave me a great deal. I paid $209 INSTALLED

I also listen to my DVD player lot's with the car not running. Yes even in winter. Thanks to all the sound insulation. So I was looking for a high endurance battery. This was my choice. So far it great. I have the Escort sr7 radar detector. It give me a volt reading in tenths of a volt. This new battery holds up great. I was listening to the DVD player (300 watt sub amp) for one hour. It was about 6 degrees F. The battery only when down to 12.5v!! Not bad. My stock battery was down to 12v in 20 min. I like this new one!! I will stop now.

PS: here is a link to the battery sales place.
http://braillebattery.com/index.php/batteries/b7548/#
For more info on this battery....

Nasty188

If it's really woth it I would much rather buy this battery than constantley take it to the dealer for a replacement!

jerzeeballa1

Just get a Optima yellow top, I don't even need a capacitor for my Rockford system.

Babnik

What battery would you guys recommend if my car is stock so I don't need any extra power for aftermarket electronics or anything. My 04 TL is still on its first battery so I might need a replacement soon.

TLin401

Optima yellow top

skads_187

just to confirm how much does the stock battery weigh on the 04?
do you think yellowtop is the best choice for me given my situation?:
04 tl, navi system and live in Montreal = really cold weather conditions.
looking at -4 to -22 F some days
I still have the original, but i think it was recently recharged, i never leave my radio on after shutting off the car in the cold.

Spiritman

Yellow top "was" the battery . In it's day.
But if you compare price and CCA, etc. You will see that the Braille is the lighter, more powerful, and the cheapest. Not including the carbon fiber ones. Of course. You will pay more for the best looking battery also. Go to there sites look at the stats. You will see for yourself. I would have bought the yellow top. If that was all thats out there. But time has moved on. Read it for yourself!!!

http://braillebattery.com/index.php/batteries/b7548/
http://www.optimabatteries.com/home.php

Now you go and compare.....

Babnik

Wait a sec... how does living in a cold climate necessitate a deep cycle battery? So your engine has to turn for an extra 2 seconds when you start, is that really a reason to pay $100 more for a heavy duty battery?

Spiritman

You stated only half of the reason I wanted this type of batt.

1st.
I listen to my DVD player. With the 300watt sub. amp. For long times. I don't want to idle the car. So I wanted a deep cycle batt.
2nd.
I live in Minnesota. We can see -35 below actual temp. Not wind chill. You can bet this batt. will give you MUCH more that 2 sec. worth of CCA'S!!! Stock is 550 CCA this is 1280 CCA = 2 sec???? Not in my book.

3rd. No mess. It's a dry cell. No corrosion.


I could go on but. This isn't my thread....

Babnik

My post wasn't aimed specifically at you, just in general.

About the 2 seconds, what I meant was that someone in a cold climate, when he turns the key on a cold morning, his engine might turn for 2 seconds longer before it starts compared to someone in a warm climate. Which I thought didn't require the extra cca that a high end battery has.

A SiQ TL

04accordcpe, or anyone recommending these,
aren't the yellow tops designed to be run almost all the down before recharging? If so, since the alternator is always recharging them, does it shorten the batteries life span?

sweepy1026

Just wonder, if you lose 18lbs on one side (driver side), will that affect your car balance when you make a fast turn to the right? or maybe affect the suspension system? like the left side is higher than the right side? Because 18lbs is not a small number. 39lbs OEM - 21lbs = 18lbs

Inaccurate

^ With my Braille (model B14115), I dropped 27.5 lbs. The oem battery (and tray) weighs 39 lbs. The Braille B14115 weighs 11.5 lbs. The difference was 27.5 lbs saved.

I noticed no ill effects from the lateral (left/right) weight difference. Never noticed my car sitting higher on the left than the right. I have sled (drifted) thru lefties and righties, and both feel the same. Both lefties and righties are neutral balanced with no oversteer nor understeer.

However, I *did* notice an big improvement in the handling and toss-ability of the car.

LoveMyTL-S

Actual link:

http://www.braillebattery.com/

Inaccurate

I should add that I am *not* recommending the B14115 for all readers. This little B14115 battery has special needs (see next two paragraphs). However, I do recommend the Braille brand in general. Just select one of the larger batteries to suit your electrical needs.

I have had my small Braille (B14115) for exactly 2-1/2 years. In that period of time, I had no problems at all with it. It never left me stranded. However, I do always respect it's limitations. If I know that the car will not be driven for over two days (just my arbitrary limit), I put a trickle charger on the little battery. Also, if I am working inside the car for a long time (more than 5 minutes) with the doors open, causing the dome light to stay on, I will put the trickle charger on it. I consider this inconvenience as a small price to pay for the weight savings.

I do recommend this small Braille (B14115) to anyone that is willing to live within it's small reserve capacity. This means not too many days without driving the car, not listening to radio with engine off, no aftermarket accessories such as car alarms that drain the battery with the engine off, etc.

On October 2009, I replaced the battery with another identical one (B14115). For a few months prior to the replacement, I was noticing the battery not spinning the starter as fast as it normally did. Knowing that the battery was over 2 years old, I took this as an "early notice" to get it replaced.

As a personal rule that was learned the hard way, I always replace auto batteries no less than once every 2 years. I replace the battery (DieHard Gold) in my wife's car once every 12 months as preventative maintenance. In the Houston heat, batteries typically don't last much longer than 2 years. So, for the little Braille to last for 2-1/2 years is superb performance.


The Braille site makes hints that their charger is “special” and hinting that the Braille battery needs their “special” charger.

I don’t believe that the Braille battery needs a special charger. The car will be charging it like any other battery. So, why would I need anything different than a normal battery charger?

For the past 2-1/2 years, I have used a “Schumacher Speed Charge Model 600A” that I purchased from Walmart (see pic below). I have used it a lot. Works great and highly recommend this charger to anyone purchasing a Braille battery.

Please note that this Schumacher charger offers three charging modes or amperages. I have always used the 2-Amp charging rate when charging or trickle charging my small Braille battery. It functions as a trickle charger too.

I would assume any high quality charger would work ok. However, just be sure that the charger is able to charge at a 2-Amp rate. I would not recommend using a quick or fast charging rate, which outputs higher than 2 amps, on the small Braille battery.

The Schumacher’s web site is http://www.batterychargers.com

Walmart sells the charger (Schumacher Model 600A) for approx $30.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=13005743

Doing a Google, I see that it can be purchased online too from many sites, including Amazon.

dwb993

iTrader: (13)

I was under the impression that Optima was going out of business. I recall seeing some posts regarding this and advising folks to stay away from them, as once the company goes out of business, you are SOL on the warranty. Am I incorrect on this?

subinf

I haven't heard that with respect to optima.

S PAW 1

I have the B2015. The first one went dead for no reason. I had bought it from Tirerack, and they referred me to the "mfr" for warranty. The A-hole decided he would charge my card for the replacement until the old battery was returned, and a new one sent (glad I kept my OEM). Second one working OK, but definitely doesn't have the CCA of the OEM. I decided to reinstall the OEM for this winter, since I don't think starving the many electronics on my TL-S of needed voltage is a wise idea.
Just to add, if the battery needs to be replaced, you pay the freight. Also, if you need to recharge this battery, it must be deep cycle. Most standard chargers won't work.
'07 TL-S 5AT CBP
Fujita F5
Progress RSB
P2R Throttle body spacer
Bralle Battery
V1 on the lookout

04TLinSYR

If all drivers weighed 175 pounds perhaps they would tune the suspension to be sensitive to slight weight changes left and right or fore and aft...but that wouldn't make sense with 90 pound anorexics and 300 pound fat guys both in the target buyer demographic. And think about the effect of adding a passenger....

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

I went with pep boys...they have a BOSCH big boy that's $95. No weight reduction, but 850 cold cranking amps and 1000 cranking amps at 32 deg. F.

I like it.

S PAW 1

When my first Braille went dead within the first year, and wouldn't take a charge, the factory advised me not to even try to charge it with a standard charger. They said that the internal plate sizing was similar to that of a marine battery, and not a standard automotive battery. They didn't say I should buy their charger, but that a marine charger was necessary due to the deep cycle requirements. To mfr. a battery this small would seem to indicate that surely [I]something[I] must be different internally.
Maybe I misunderstood you, but if you had to recharge your battery several times, maybe the alternator wasn't recharging it enough, if at all.

'07 TL-S 5A/T CBP
FUJITA F5
PROGRESS RSB
P2R SPACER
Braille battery
V1 on the lookout

I hate cars

CCAs aren't everything. I've been told by one of the large battery manufacturers to go with the lowest CCA battery that will still spin the engine over well enough, likely the stockish CCAs. This is because I live in a hot climate and generally speaking the lower CCA batteries will have a slightly longer life and be less suseptable to internal problems caused by heat and vibration.

The Sears die hard platinum is one of the best batteries for the money. Same style as the Optimas, but supposedly much better for the same amount of money.

Optimas seem to be hit or miss. I've had some die in a few months and some last 5 years. The one I currently have turns the engine over much slower than it once did and I commute 1.5 hours a day. I'll be replacing it soon with a DH Platinum before it causes the starter to die.

Inaccurate

S PAW,

I agree that a standard charger should not be used. But, we need to define what a standard charger is. A standard charger does a quick charge at high amperage. If you go back to my previous post in this thread, you will see that I specifically stated that a person must use a charger that is able to charge at a 2-amp rate. And, I stated that a person should use only the 2-amp rate to charge the small Brallie battery.

The reason that I need to charge my small battery is because it has a small reserve capacity. The TL has many electronic that continue to draw current even with the key off. Over a period of approx 5 days, this is enough to drain the reserve capacity of the small battery. So on occasions such as vacations, holidays, and long weekends, I would need the charger. Or, If I was working on the car with the door open, the interior lights would be enough to drain the reserve capacity after about 15 minutes. And even on these occasions, I use the charger just as a precaution and to prevent sulfation.

The TL alternator has no issues with charging the Brallie battery. I am sorry that you had a bad experience with the Brallie. I have been and still do use the Brallie battery for exactly three years without a single problem.

RyanCHICL

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The Duralast Gold battery from Autozone is about the best bang for the buck in my opinion. It is also made by Johnson Controls.