Bad tint job?
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Bad tint job?
=[ sigh. well jsut picked up my car from tint shop. not too good of an experience for my first "mod" lol. the tint looks great overall however, pretty satisfied with the way it came out! got 20% all around on a ASM which looks veryyy niceee. but then comes the minor details that bug me.
first off, i was expecting to get 3M 20% Color Stable tint. but then the guy gives me some shit called Madico Charcool Automotive Film or something. x_X i haven't looked up this film yet but he says its "scratch-resistent" and smacked on a "life-time warranty". Tint film doesn't look bad but just worried about the brand.
secondly, there are a ton of tiny air bubbles. the guy said they would "dry out" so give it a few hours. I'm not driving my car for a day and leaving the windows up for at least two just to be sure. BUt he said if they dont go away, they stand behind their word and they will re-do the car.
third, and worst of all, they fucked up the quarter panels x_X. Left that ugly gray strip. dude said they wont go back there becuz "trash" will gather, and they dont take the windows out. x_X i was like damn... it makes it look so bad though... anyone have a suggestion on what to do about that?
anyways. hopefully Madico is a popular brand so I can see if another shop will do the quarter panels for me.
Bad Quarter Panels =
first off, i was expecting to get 3M 20% Color Stable tint. but then the guy gives me some shit called Madico Charcool Automotive Film or something. x_X i haven't looked up this film yet but he says its "scratch-resistent" and smacked on a "life-time warranty". Tint film doesn't look bad but just worried about the brand.
secondly, there are a ton of tiny air bubbles. the guy said they would "dry out" so give it a few hours. I'm not driving my car for a day and leaving the windows up for at least two just to be sure. BUt he said if they dont go away, they stand behind their word and they will re-do the car.
third, and worst of all, they fucked up the quarter panels x_X. Left that ugly gray strip. dude said they wont go back there becuz "trash" will gather, and they dont take the windows out. x_X i was like damn... it makes it look so bad though... anyone have a suggestion on what to do about that?
anyways. hopefully Madico is a popular brand so I can see if another shop will do the quarter panels for me.
Bad Quarter Panels =
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1.) -- there are bubbles after tint is put on. depending on weather in your area will determine how long it takes for them to come out. if its hotter, they will come out quicker, and eventaully it SHOULD be nice and smooth.
2.) -- i dont understand how all these places cannot do to quarter panel. I had it done perfectly and can take pics if desired. I maybe paid a premium for my tint job ($250), but its the only place in the area that anyone goes to b/c they know their work is good.
2.) -- i dont understand how all these places cannot do to quarter panel. I had it done perfectly and can take pics if desired. I maybe paid a premium for my tint job ($250), but its the only place in the area that anyone goes to b/c they know their work is good.
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yeah i'm calling aruond right now... but dang i paid 180. i guess i got what i paid for =[ sigh.
btw my car is sitting in the garage, would it be best to leave it out in the sun?
also, anyone know anything about Madico tint?
btw my car is sitting in the garage, would it be best to leave it out in the sun?
also, anyone know anything about Madico tint?
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leaving it in the sun will get the bubbles out quicker. they'll disappear eventually regardless, but quicker if in the sun.
Also, the place I went to uses these brands:
Solar Gard
Solar Zone
Madico
Global Automotive
I dont know whats on my car though...maybe Madico just like you?
Also, the place I went to uses these brands:
Solar Gard
Solar Zone
Madico
Global Automotive
I dont know whats on my car though...maybe Madico just like you?
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clean man! yeahs, mine is 20% and looks dark and veryyy nice on the silver, but just freaking hate the gray strip they left on the quarter panel =[
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Madico is an alright brand.. not terrible by any means.. so dont sweat it. What do you mean by grey strip? If you referring to the gap in the quarter panel window in the rear then to me thats not a clean job.
3M colorstable would've been the best option, I then say its LLumar Platinum Plus comming in a close 2nd. Solar guard people say comes in 3rd.. but I can tell you, the one F'n car we did with Soloar guard turned purple in the 5th year. Of course they re-did it but this time with 3M and it looks phenomenol! I'm running LLumar on mine for the last 3 years, not an oune of problem, but thats only because 3M wasn't making tints then, so LLumar was the best, but if I was going into it now, I'd do only 3M.
And btw, paying $180 is about average. There is a place over here that I just found, can't vouch for their workmanship, but they quoted me to redo my entire tints, with 3M color Stable, $250 with removal of my LLUMAR.
If you really want to get picky, there is a tint called Huper Optik, I urge you to go find out prices on that..
3M colorstable would've been the best option, I then say its LLumar Platinum Plus comming in a close 2nd. Solar guard people say comes in 3rd.. but I can tell you, the one F'n car we did with Soloar guard turned purple in the 5th year. Of course they re-did it but this time with 3M and it looks phenomenol! I'm running LLumar on mine for the last 3 years, not an oune of problem, but thats only because 3M wasn't making tints then, so LLumar was the best, but if I was going into it now, I'd do only 3M.
And btw, paying $180 is about average. There is a place over here that I just found, can't vouch for their workmanship, but they quoted me to redo my entire tints, with 3M color Stable, $250 with removal of my LLUMAR.
If you really want to get picky, there is a tint called Huper Optik, I urge you to go find out prices on that..
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^^^ wow i saw that in the guys tint shop, "Huper Optik", but i didnt ask about it cuz i didnt know what it was lol. The guy "supposedly" carried Llumar, 3M, and Huper Optik. no where in his store did he advertise Madico lol. so i was wondering what he just gave me when he told me he used Madico lol.
but yeah he left that gap in the rear quarter panels, i'll take pics in a second. but i heard it was a common problem with tint shops not being able to do it.
but yeah he left that gap in the rear quarter panels, i'll take pics in a second. but i heard it was a common problem with tint shops not being able to do it.
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Madico makes good quality films. I have their ONYX line on my RSX, and it's been good for 5 years. No fading, no bubbles, no scratches.
I recently put on their non metallized WINCOS on my TL-S. So far I have no problems. Did they install moleskin? If they didn't, the chance of scratches is increased dramatically. I know that the warranty said "Will never scratch", but do you really want keep going back for warranty work? In case they didn't put on moleskin, you can still do it yourself. It's pretty cheap and fairly easy to do. Search this forum on instructions how to do it. So to answer your question. Madico Charcoal is good, non-metallized film, and as long as it's been installed correctly, you will be happy with it. BTW, good price for $180.
I recently put on their non metallized WINCOS on my TL-S. So far I have no problems. Did they install moleskin? If they didn't, the chance of scratches is increased dramatically. I know that the warranty said "Will never scratch", but do you really want keep going back for warranty work? In case they didn't put on moleskin, you can still do it yourself. It's pretty cheap and fairly easy to do. Search this forum on instructions how to do it. So to answer your question. Madico Charcoal is good, non-metallized film, and as long as it's been installed correctly, you will be happy with it. BTW, good price for $180.
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^^ and yes, to add to what he said, moleskin is definitely very important. When i add my tint done and they asked me if i wanted it, i thought they were upselling me on something unnecessary. Well, i willingly said yes, not really sure as to what I was going, but as I learned from this forum, I am glad I had the moleskin installed.
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yeah i called him and asked about moleskin and he said he's never heard of it x_X but yeah he told me the film was scratch resistent. and yeahs 180 isn't bad, but if he doesn't fix it then i'm going to have to pay like 70 more to fix the quarter panels which makes it 250 =\
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btw... does anyone know what happened here?
if you look close, it looks like the little design thing faded x_X is that normal or do you think the tint had something to do with it.
if you look close, it looks like the little design thing faded x_X is that normal or do you think the tint had something to do with it.
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Now I see that your saying about the quarter panels. That looks horrible I would for sure go back and have that fixed. I have seen a lot of tinted TL's and never once saw one of the rear windows done like that.
And yes the bubbles go away after a few days. Im surprised they didnt tell you that. Also, it is best to leave the car parked in the sun for the first few days to expedite the drying process. Then you can safely use your windows again to.
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And yes the bubbles go away after a few days. Im surprised they didnt tell you that. Also, it is best to leave the car parked in the sun for the first few days to expedite the drying process. Then you can safely use your windows again to.
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that gray strips are caused by cutting the film to small.... a good tint shop can get tints all the way to the edge of the window glass so it won't leave that blank area
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How tiny are the bubbles? If they are pinhead size then yea they will dry out in the sun. If they are quarter size, then you have a potential problem. I used tint by Axius 20% all the way around and only (12 bucks a roll). I bought 2 rolls and had enough left over for the lexus. I do my own tint because I don't trust others working on my car. As for the grey strip, Definately get them to fix that. Cheesy in my opinion.
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How tiny are the bubbles? If they are pinhead size then yea they will dry out in the sun. If they are quarter size, then you have a potential problem. I used tint by Axius 20% all the way around and only (12 bucks a roll). I bought 2 rolls and had enough left over for the lexus. I do my own tint because I don't trust others working on my car. As for the grey strip, Definately get them to fix that. Cheesy in my opinion.
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Like people have said, small bubbles will go away over a couple days, sunny day helps. The quarter panel should be redone though. The place I went to use Llumar film and had it computer cut for a perfect fit. Cost $165. Shades of Gray it was called, highly recommended here in PA.
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yeah, the bubbles are small and some have dissappeared after i put them in the sun a few hours ago.
and im going monday to talk to them abuot fixing the back window panels (sorry, dont know what to call them lol).
and also, i saw in the rear window what looks like a scratch in the tint but it turned out to be a fucking air bubble in the shape of a piece of hair... and i can still see the hair strand. its small but wayy noticeable not certain if that will go away but dang really is kinda like WTF cuz i thught they were suppose to make sure that didn't happen x_X
and im going monday to talk to them abuot fixing the back window panels (sorry, dont know what to call them lol).
and also, i saw in the rear window what looks like a scratch in the tint but it turned out to be a fucking air bubble in the shape of a piece of hair... and i can still see the hair strand. its small but wayy noticeable not certain if that will go away but dang really is kinda like WTF cuz i thught they were suppose to make sure that didn't happen x_X
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That' to me is unacceptable. And not to mention looks retarded. At the very least if they dont do it, just go find another madico dealer, and get that portion redone.. yes you will have to pay, but sometimes its just easier then trying to get a bunch of ideots that don't have competence to do it and since they can't do it, they will say "IT CAN'T BE DONE"
Replacing that portion of it won't cost much, max $40. Pay $40 and not argue. Or if they guy tells you it can't be done, tell him if you find someone else who can do it, are they willing to pay you for what it costs you and you will supply a receipt. That's basically telling them politely that they are retards.
Replacing that portion of it won't cost much, max $40. Pay $40 and not argue. Or if they guy tells you it can't be done, tell him if you find someone else who can do it, are they willing to pay you for what it costs you and you will supply a receipt. That's basically telling them politely that they are retards.
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I don't care for my tint at all. I look at others cars often as I know very little about tinting. My looks good from outside, but inside I have some small scratches which don't bother me much. It's hard to explain, but the part I don't like is that from inside the car it actually looks a bit cloudy, especially when you're looking toward the Sun. I'm thinking I definitely have a bad tint job.
Anyone know of good shops in the Washington, DC area? I live in Montgomery County, MD, but I'm willing to go to anyone in the area if they do good work at reasonable prices.
Anyone know of good shops in the Washington, DC area? I live in Montgomery County, MD, but I'm willing to go to anyone in the area if they do good work at reasonable prices.
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I don't care for my tint at all. I look at others cars often as I know very little about tinting. My looks good from outside, but inside I have some small scratches which don't bother me much. It's hard to explain, but the part I don't like is that from inside the car it actually looks a bit cloudy, especially when you're looking toward the Sun. I'm thinking I definitely have a bad tint job.
Anyone know of good shops in the Washington, DC area? I live in Montgomery County, MD, but I'm willing to go to anyone in the area if they do good work at reasonable prices.
Anyone know of good shops in the Washington, DC area? I live in Montgomery County, MD, but I'm willing to go to anyone in the area if they do good work at reasonable prices.
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That' to me is unacceptable. And not to mention looks retarded. At the very least if they dont do it, just go find another madico dealer, and get that portion redone.. yes you will have to pay, but sometimes its just easier then trying to get a bunch of ideots that don't have competence to do it and since they can't do it, they will say "IT CAN'T BE DONE"
Replacing that portion of it won't cost much, max $40. Pay $40 and not argue. Or if they guy tells you it can't be done, tell him if you find someone else who can do it, are they willing to pay you for what it costs you and you will supply a receipt. That's basically telling them politely that they are retards.
Replacing that portion of it won't cost much, max $40. Pay $40 and not argue. Or if they guy tells you it can't be done, tell him if you find someone else who can do it, are they willing to pay you for what it costs you and you will supply a receipt. That's basically telling them politely that they are retards.
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i do tints professionally and that gap on the quarter windows are common all it is is that the installer deos not want to spend more time on just a small window because in order to not have those gaps u have to take the door panels off so that i can work the tint all the way to the edge thats how i did it on my 07 tls
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Im getting my windows tinted come Tuesday. I think Im going to remove the rear door panels so I dont have problems like mobtowntl did. Im going to a new place to get my windows done its called Sun and Sound in Central Mass I went to Ziebart with my old Accord and I had the worse dust trapped inside my windows. The windows were all scratched up and i think the tint was too light for 35% tint. Is there any kind of tint that will make it look darker. Anybody in Central MASS down to tint the TL CASH in hand!!! PM me
Hey thanks alot MoBTownTL I would of had the same thing happen to me if I did not see the post. I hope they fix your shyt right and for free
Hey thanks alot MoBTownTL I would of had the same thing happen to me if I did not see the post. I hope they fix your shyt right and for free
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Make them fix the window with the strand of hair and the quarter window.
But at least they didnt cut around the 3rd brake light. I know this guy with a 3g Tl and he has the same quarter window gaps and they cut around his 3rd brake light, it looks so bad.
But at least they didnt cut around the 3rd brake light. I know this guy with a 3g Tl and he has the same quarter window gaps and they cut around his 3rd brake light, it looks so bad.
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Burning Brakes
i don't think you have to take the door panel off to tint... at least my tint shop didn't do that to my cars... with that tiny back non-open-able window, it won't help if you take the door panel off... there is actually tiny space that tint film can slide and fit through... and the squeegies they use to squeeze out the excessive adhesives and bubbles trapped, can fit through the tiny space and the space between the window and door panel felt... taking the door panel off to tint is just too far fetched (it's like taking the back windwshield off to tint the back window)... of all of my cars, every single one was tinted including my friends and family cars... all of them got life time warrenty and all of them use top quality tint (lumnar) and no problems whatsoever.... and best of all the price, $80 each for my TL and RL
p.s. if u c hair inside your tint, that means they didn't clean the windows thoroughly.... dirty windows will cause bubbles too.... clean windows is the basic step 1 of every tint job
p.s. if u c hair inside your tint, that means they didn't clean the windows thoroughly.... dirty windows will cause bubbles too.... clean windows is the basic step 1 of every tint job
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'06 TL 5AT NAV Anthracite
I haven't noticed any halos, but I'll be sure to check. Hazy is probably a more accurate description. The first time I saw it I was thinking that the inside of the windows just needed to be cleaned, but unfortunately it wasn't that simple.
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Burning Brakes
Thanks for the compliment. The guy who did the tint on my car said it would look darker than it really is because my interior is all black. GL on monday