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I've searched all over town. Found one performance shop with the Redline oil I need and the Motul DOT 5.1 fluid I need on display in plain sight but apparently no one has been in there in the month I've been stopping by.

Online I can't find a single store that sells both. If I have to I'll order separately but it would be nice to have only one shipping charge. I can't believe the large places like Summit and Jegs don't have DOT 5.1 fluid. Any help would be appreciated. I need the brake fluid pretty quick because my Rotoras should be here any day. Looking at it through the glass door is torture. For a second I thought about breaking the glass and leaving a $100 bill but then I came back to reality.

KN_TL

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Matt, did a quick search and found these guys in Cali.

http://www.frsport.com/

http://www.frsport.com/Synthetic-Oil_c_380.html

http://www.frsport.com/Brake-Fluid_c_16.html

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Thank you. I just found those guys too. $418 on fluids...

Hi speed

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What are you buying? $400+ on fluids. Are you getting a 30 gal barrel?

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3 Gallons Redline oil.
1.5 Gallons Redline Nissan CVT fluid
5 500ml bottles of Motul DOT 5.1
3 Gallons of Redline D4 ATF

I won't have to touch the engine oil on both cars for a year, the brakes for 3 years, and the ATF for at least a couple years. It sounds like a lot but I justify it because it's still a little cheaper than letting the dealer do the services and I get premium fluids.

libert69

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i bought my motul here
http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/...-38-MOT-4.html

they have redline too

so your switching from amsoil atf to redline d4 huh. any reason or just want to try something new?

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Amsoil has worked great but I wanted to try an ester based fluid for it's cleaning properties and slightly better high temp oxidation resistance. With the filtration I have and this fluid I should be able to really stretch the change intervals.

libert69

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the d4 has no friction modifiers correct? there should be harsher shifts but thats not really a bad thing is it?

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It has a more normal amount of FM. Z1 has a very high amount, D4 is the equivilent of Dex III which Honda says can be used in our trans but at the possible expense of shift quality. I like the shifts in the TL with a Dex III-like fluid. They're quicker and sharper but you can barely feel it likely due to the DBW partially closing the throttle on shifts. They actually feel better because they're not sloppy and drawn out like Z1.

Only Type F has no friction modifiers and there is a very large difference. Going by feel, DexIII is closer to the Honda Z1 than it is to Type-F. I used a mixture of Type-F and Dex III in the GN to fine tune the shifts.

I would never recommend something I haven't tried especially in something as expensive and temperamental as the Honda AT. But I've been running the Amsoil fluid for 60,000 miles now for a total of 85,000. I sometimes forget how well it shifts until I drive another TL. Quicker shifts usually mean a longer life but only time will tell.

I hate to change fluids because the goal was to run one fluid in both the engine and transmission for the car's entire life and then tearing it down before it goes to the junkyard to see how well they performed. I went from Amsoil ACD straight 30wt (10w-30) to Redline 5w-30 (also a straight 30) and ATD to D4. The temptation to try an ester based fluid was too much but I can say with full confidence that the car will be on Redline until it goes to the junkyard. The Amsoil did a wonderful job of keeping the engine clean, quiet, and in great working condition and I would recommend it to anyone but Redline seems to be a little "better" for my OCD personality. It will likely take half a million miles to see any differences between a cheap dino and Redline but I can't help myself.