Absolutely not ceramic pads?
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get Ceramic. Just make sure your rotors can handle it. If not it will eat up the rotors. Besides that you are fine. I am running Akebono proAct pad and it stops like a dream.
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Powerflow-
I used a standard caliper lube that a buddy had on hand, when installing the rotors/pads. I'll have to try a synth lube then, it certainly can't hurt- that squeal is just plain embarrassing at stop lights (good timing, I'm stopping by AZ today!)
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I used a standard caliper lube that a buddy had on hand, when installing the rotors/pads. I'll have to try a synth lube then, it certainly can't hurt- that squeal is just plain embarrassing at stop lights (good timing, I'm stopping by AZ today!)
Thanks-
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Ok, so I'm picking up Cmax pads for my car this week. Pick up the brakes Thursday morning, have em installed ASAP. I was thinking about buying the OEM pads from eBay, but between shipping time, Autozone with their unlimited brake return, I'm getting them ASAP. Another reason why I love this forum.
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Yes, I would recommend synthetic caliper grease (the graphite colored one that comes in a pvc cement looking container and is applied by brush).
Also, even with minor mechanical know-how, if you have Brembo's...you would be foolish to spend the money paying someone to change your pads. They are the easiest ever.
Also, even with minor mechanical know-how, if you have Brembo's...you would be foolish to spend the money paying someone to change your pads. They are the easiest ever.
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Just figured I'd throw a quick update on here. I went with ET300 pads on my stock Brembo rotors (which need replaced pretty soon ). The pads are fantastic! They bite immediately and as hard as I would expect. I did the bedding procedure on RacingBrake's site. So far, no squealing but I only have 15 or so miles on them. I expect no squeal ever.
I must say that I will never again pay for brake pad replacement labor on this car. To say it is easy doesn't quite cut it. It is a little more involved on the non-Brembo TLs, but for those of us with Brembo brakes, it is so simple.
You literally remove the 5 lug nuts that hold the wheel. Take the tire off. Use a $2 punch tool and a hammer to knock out two pins on the caliper which are in plain sight and very easy to do. Slide the existing pads out, push the pistons in (I bought a tool for this but ended up just using two screwdrivers. It's very easy), then slide the new pads in. Reverse the steps and your done.
I'm not a mechanic by any stretch. Changing brakes and headlights encompasses all of my automotive repair experience. This job is just too simple. Probably took about 20 minutes per wheel. Maybe 25 at most and that was with me being extra careful. Second wheel was much faster.
And they charge what again at the dealer for this job? Hundreds of dollars. Cost $127.30 including shipping and tax for the ET300s and $0 labor. Oh, and a $2 punch tool.
Looking forward to pushing these tomorrow to see how they do. Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm happy with the results!
I must say that I will never again pay for brake pad replacement labor on this car. To say it is easy doesn't quite cut it. It is a little more involved on the non-Brembo TLs, but for those of us with Brembo brakes, it is so simple.
You literally remove the 5 lug nuts that hold the wheel. Take the tire off. Use a $2 punch tool and a hammer to knock out two pins on the caliper which are in plain sight and very easy to do. Slide the existing pads out, push the pistons in (I bought a tool for this but ended up just using two screwdrivers. It's very easy), then slide the new pads in. Reverse the steps and your done.
I'm not a mechanic by any stretch. Changing brakes and headlights encompasses all of my automotive repair experience. This job is just too simple. Probably took about 20 minutes per wheel. Maybe 25 at most and that was with me being extra careful. Second wheel was much faster.
And they charge what again at the dealer for this job? Hundreds of dollars. Cost $127.30 including shipping and tax for the ET300s and $0 labor. Oh, and a $2 punch tool.
Looking forward to pushing these tomorrow to see how they do. Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm happy with the results!
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i have the cmax gold ceramics for about 2k miles...not one squeal except when i wash my car and then dont drive it for a day or two, then they only squeal til the rust gets knocked off....
as for braking performance, i cant tell the difference between the oem pads and the cmax gold....
as for braking performance, i cant tell the difference between the oem pads and the cmax gold....
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There's a TSB for the brake squeal 04-019 dated 20 Jan 2007. If anyone still have the OEM setup then it's covered under your warranty. DIY the Brembo Brake Grease: P/N 08798-9027. One tube services three vehicles. Price is 40 bucks.
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Reviving this old thread only to give a status update.
I have logged over 4,000 miles on the car in the short time since installing the ET300s. I have driven like a normal person and I have pushed it very hard. These pads are outstanding. The only thing I noticed was some fade, but that was while driving the interstate like it was a race track and many high speed hard brakes. This is no fault of the pads. They make an ET500 for this type of driving. My rotors are factory too and are getting for replacement.
Under normal and even spirited driving, I just couldn't ask for more.
And the best part. Almost ZERO brake dust. I used to get so frustrated with the brake dust with the OEM setup and had to wash my wheels at least once per week. In the past two months with the ET300s, I have washed the wheels only one time.
So there you have it. For this car with the Brembo brakes, I will never use any pad except the ET300 from RacingBrake. How long they will last, I don't know, but from what I understand, it should be quite a while. They show no signs of wear at this point.
That's the update. Hope it helps someone searching for pads!
I have logged over 4,000 miles on the car in the short time since installing the ET300s. I have driven like a normal person and I have pushed it very hard. These pads are outstanding. The only thing I noticed was some fade, but that was while driving the interstate like it was a race track and many high speed hard brakes. This is no fault of the pads. They make an ET500 for this type of driving. My rotors are factory too and are getting for replacement.
Under normal and even spirited driving, I just couldn't ask for more.
And the best part. Almost ZERO brake dust. I used to get so frustrated with the brake dust with the OEM setup and had to wash my wheels at least once per week. In the past two months with the ET300s, I have washed the wheels only one time.
So there you have it. For this car with the Brembo brakes, I will never use any pad except the ET300 from RacingBrake. How long they will last, I don't know, but from what I understand, it should be quite a while. They show no signs of wear at this point.
That's the update. Hope it helps someone searching for pads!
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