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Old 08-04-2009, 02:23 PM
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8th Gen Accord vs Numerous Vehicles

I decided to post here since I used to have a TL and the engine in my car, J35, is similar to the 3G Type S 3.5 and 4G TL 3.5. All of these wins come from my stock 2009 Honda Accord Coupe V6 6MT. Car & Driver was able to get 13.9 out of this car stock & there are numerous reports of 13.8 stock. I also only put 93 Octane in the car.

1.2007 or so Mustang GT 5MT I believe stock. We pull up to a stop light simultaneously. He looks at me and I look at him and we know what the deal is. So we take off and we are neck and neck until I get to 4th gear at about 85 and I pull a car and stay a car ahead until about 105. We pull over & shoot the shit and he asks about my car and says he didnt realize they were that fast. Told me I had a sleeper. Nice guy.

2. 2006 or 07 G35S Sedan stock. Almost immediately after I pull off from talking to the Mustang owner. I pull up to another light and the G pulls beside me. We engage in the same looks, the Mustang owner is behind the G, and we take off on green. We are neck and neck until about 85MPH again and I take him by 2 cars up until 105 or so. He didnt want to talk . Mustang owner pulls beside me and gives thumbs up.

3. 2010 Chevy Camaro RS(V6)6AT Stock My friend and I bought our cars around the same time so he was curious to see the outcome since we felt as though his car was pretty quick. So we lined em up at a light and almost imediately after I went into 2nd I just kept pulling away from him. I ended about 6 cars ahead of him up until 105. We then went from a 30 mph roll. The outcome was worse than before. It wound up being about 8 cars this time. He was pretty upset. his exact words, "Man I can't believe I just got smoked by a Honda." He had vowed to not mod that car, he has now changed his mind. He now wants intake and exhaust.

4. 2002 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE 5MT Intake, Headers, Testpipe. Seeing as though this car runs consistent 13.8s and 13.7s on better days on street tires I went into the race with my buddy(he owns a local shop we mod at) knowing I would lose. So we line em up and the 1st race he got the jump on me but I quickly regained ground by 3rd and by 4th I was slowly creeping past him. We were shocked. So we lined em up again. This time we left exactly at the same time and we were door to door up until 4th gear and I just started to creep past him. We shut it down at about 95mph each time with the nose of my car in front of his.

Conclusion this car is fawkin quick. I miss my 2G Type S TL dearly but it really doesnt hold a candle to this car. I can't wait to mod it and see what else I can beat. Thanks for reading. Til next time
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great to hear the kill stories. Bro the 8th gen 6MT is a beast. MickAV6 on our accord site with his 09 AV6 6MT ran 13.48 @105xxMPH(his PB). He just has a injen CAI and homeade test pipe w/stock tires. He ran many many 13.5's - 13.7's with traps from 103-105MPH. His you tube video is sick. I will post it up for you guys.

UPDATE: Here is the you tube vid of the 13.6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtE8c...eature=channel

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Good runs. BTW: The 06 G35 is a 1G and the 07 is a 2G. Was it a current style G? Any idea if it was an AT or MT?
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
great to hear the kill stories. Bro the 8th gen 6MT is a beast. MickAV6 on our accord site with his 09 AV6 6MT ran 13.48 @105xxMPH(his PB). He just has a injen CAI and homeade test pipe w/stock tires. He ran many many 13.5's - 13.7's with traps from 103-105MPH. His you tube video is sick. I will post it up for you guys.

UPDATE: Here is the you tube vid of the 13.6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtE8c...eature=channel
Yea i know of Mick. He's been putting down great numbers. i'm waiting for the weather to cool down a little bit before I start hitting the track. With him being in Canada he has the advantage of year around cool weather. Its been 90 and above here with 80% and above humidity for the past month or so. So probably late September I can get some runs in.

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Good runs. BTW: The 06 G35 is a 1G and the 07 is a 2G. Was it a current style G? Any idea if it was an AT or MT?
Thanks it was a 2007 (just looked it up) I'm not sure if it was a 6MT or 5AT it chirped 2nd gear so I would guess 6MT but those VQs are Torquey as hell so who knows LOL Coulda been a 5AT also

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More than likely it was the 6MT, if it chirped from first to second.
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Good kills. I've seen tons of V6 Camaros lately, so it's just a matter of time before one wants to play. What do they trap, 96-97 ish?
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Those new Accords are no joke, nice kill list so far .

Trapping 105 with basic bolt ons? Goodness gracious ..
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ya, the stock AV6 6MT has been trapping 101-102.5mph by various mags. I wonder how it would run against a 6MT 3g TL-S.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Good kills. I've seen tons of V6 Camaros lately, so it's just a matter of time before one wants to play. What do they trap, 96-97 ish?
Ya, they are mid 14's car trapping at around 87mph. They have over 300hp but they are pretty damn heavy.
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that's a fast accord! nice kills
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damn.. I might have to trade up..
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Ya, they are mid 14's car trapping at around 87mph. They have over 300hp but they are pretty damn heavy.
so my 6mt 2g can take one?
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nice kills! how much does the 09's weigh? I wonder if the respond to mods similarly to the 3G TL-S's
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3569 AT, 3446 MT, or about 100 lbs less than a TLS. Seems to respond more to mods since it is essentially the same engine with a slightly lower compression and stuffed up emissions.
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Originally Posted by phee
so my 6mt 2g can take one?
opps, typp, I meant to say 97mph, not 87mph. 6mt 2g tl-s? I think it will be pretty close man.
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Originally Posted by winstrolvtec
3569 AT, 3446 MT, or about 100 lbs less than a TLS. Seems to respond more to mods since it is essentially the same engine with a slightly lower compression and stuffed up emissions.
it weighs as much as a 2g tl
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Coupes are out of the question for me but, I'd love to have a 6MT sedan.....if only would Honda would be so kind as they were for the 06-07 AV6.
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Originally Posted by phee
it weighs as much as a 2g tl
with mo powah

Originally Posted by F23A4
Coupes are out of the question for me but, I'd love to have a 6MT sedan.....if only would Honda would be so kind as they were for the 06-07 AV6.
That would be nice. We shall see though.
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I don't know why anyone with a V6 Camaro would want to race - 306hp in a 4000lb car is going to be slower (even on paper) than a 275hp one with only 3500lbs to move.

The coupes are very sneaky...
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Originally Posted by F23A4
, I'd love to have a 6MT sedan.....if only would Honda would be so kind as they were for the 06-07 AV6.
AGREED!!!

Please honda bless us with a 6MT sedan again! I would be willing to trade the coupe in........maybe!
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
AGREED!!!

Please honda bless us with a 6MT sedan again! I would be willing to trade the coupe in........maybe!
I guess you didn't hear the news.. Honda released a new 6MT with beefier synchros to combat issues in the past.. It'll be in the '10 TL so I'm sure the full lineup of 6MT vehicles should come out shortly.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I guess you didn't hear the news.. Honda released a new 6MT with beefier synchros to combat issues in the past.. It'll be in the '10 TL so I'm sure the full lineup of 6MT vehicles should come out shortly.
I hope!

I would have bought a 06-07 6MT accord but my 03 is still in great shape with only 65,000 miles now.
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Originally Posted by paul_huryk
I don't know why anyone with a V6 Camaro would want to race - 306hp in a 4000lb car is going to be slower (even on paper) than a 275hp one with only 3500lbs to move.

The coupes are very sneaky...
Why not? The V6 Camaro weighs 3780, not 4000 and actually has a slightly better power to weight ratio than the Accord, not to mention the average driver will be able to launch the Camaro better. They're in the same league, and anything can happen on the street. A so-so driver would be lucky to run a 14.60 in the Accord.
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Originally Posted by paul_huryk
I don't know why anyone with a V6 Camaro would want to race - 306hp in a 4000lb car is going to be slower (even on paper) than a 275hp one with only 3500lbs to move.

The coupes are very sneaky...
I do know why!

At edmunds.com they posted a 14.2@98MPH with the camaro 6MT V6. That is right on par if not slightly better than a stock TL 6MT.

I know we are conditioned to think that "oh its only a v6 camaro or v6 mustang". Times have changed since chevy decided to drop the Direct Injection 3.6L used in the CTS- DI. It is the best V6 engine any american company has produced to date!(IMO)
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
I do know why!

At edmunds.com they posted a 14.2@98MPH with the camaro 6MT V6. That is right on par if not slightly better than a stock TL 6MT.

I know we are conditioned to think that "oh its only a v6 camaro or v6 mustang". Times have changed since chevy decided to drop the Direct Injection 3.6L used in the CTS- DI. It is the best V6 engine any american company has produced to date!(IMO)
And let's not forget Road & Track only got a 14.5 out of the Accord.
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Hate to say like a broken record, but:

1) It's time to put the money where you mouth is (ie take the car to the strip and get some slips)

2) Racing on the street proves absolutely nothing. Reaction time isn't factored in. Just a mere .5 second quicker reaction time on the jump means a 14.4 second car could slowly walk a 14.0 second car. .5 seconds is hard to judge by the eye, especially when you're the one racing.

3) Keep the racing off the streets. Is it really worth going to jail over. Really?
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Hate to say like a broken record, but:

1) It's time to put the money where you mouth is (ie take the car to the strip and get some slips)

2) Racing on the street proves absolutely nothing. Reaction time isn't factored in. Just a mere .5 second quicker reaction time on the jump means a 14.4 second car could slowly walk a 14.0 second car. .5 seconds is hard to judge by the eye, especially when you're the one racing.

3) Keep the racing off the streets. Is it really worth going to jail over. Really?
You tell em'! Cause im sure he posted his thoughts on the car for you to criticism. And I think theres a vid in here of the accord running a 13.6? Whats that .5 faster then you with way less mods? and thats 1) 2) and 3) all bunched up.
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Agree with the safety and jail part but with all due respect isn't that taking away from the true purpose of a race? Reaction time is very much a part of skill and the point of posting about these experiences here, for the most part, is not to truly establish which is faster but merely what happened. The outcome would likely be the same at the track only they would then have slips to compare. Isn't a win a win? In nearly all phases of racing if you cross the line first you win, forget about how long it took to get there and while it's done for a good reason, reaction is also never taken out of the equation anywhere else. Not knocking it or anyone personally but the track has become a time trial substitute for an actual race. Many forget the slips are a bonus, not the actual race.
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Hate to say like a broken record, but:

1) It's time to put the money where you mouth is (ie take the car to the strip and get some slips)

2) Racing on the street proves absolutely nothing. Reaction time isn't factored in. Just a mere .5 second quicker reaction time on the jump means a 14.4 second car could slowly walk a 14.0 second car. .5 seconds is hard to judge by the eye, especially when you're the one racing.

3) Keep the racing off the streets. Is it really worth going to jail over. Really?
Did you miss the video? The one with the Accord with Cai and test pipe?
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i cant wait to run a 8th gen v6... i whopped a 4cyl already didnt know i was boosted . o btw i have a 6thgen accord
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Hate to say like a broken record, but:

1) It's time to put the money where you mouth is (ie take the car to the strip and get some slips)

Like I said earlier, i will be taking the car to the track in late September early October when its not 80% + humidity out

2) Racing on the street proves absolutely nothing. Reaction time isn't factored in. Just a mere .5 second quicker reaction time on the jump means a 14.4 second car could slowly walk a 14.0 second car. .5 seconds is hard to judge by the eye, especially when you're the one racing.

That really has no validity because the light turning green means go just like at a drag strip. So the skill is going when you are supposed to whether its street or track

3) Keep the racing off the streets. Is it really worth going to jail over. Really?
First off I'm ad advid believer in safety so I will NEVER race when there are cars around. This was on a long flat hwy with noone around, so no more danger was present than if this was at the track. Second there were no cops and the speed limit is 70mph so neither of us would have gone to jail since we shut it down at about 100-105mph. Just a hefty ticket. But like I said again no cops and I have a valentine radar detector that has never been faulty
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You tell em'! Cause im sure he posted his thoughts on the car for you to criticism. And I think theres a vid in here of the accord running a 13.6? Whats that .5 faster then you with way less mods? and thats 1) 2) and 3) all bunched up.
Originally Posted by winstrolvtec
Agree with the safety and jail part but with all due respect isn't that taking away from the true purpose of a race? Reaction time is very much a part of skill and the point of posting about these experiences here, for the most part, is not to truly establish which is faster but merely what happened. The outcome would likely be the same at the track only they would then have slips to compare. Isn't a win a win? In nearly all phases of racing if you cross the line first you win, forget about how long it took to get there and while it's done for a good reason, reaction is also never taken out of the equation anywhere else. Not knocking it or anyone personally but the track has become a time trial substitute for an actual race. Many forget the slips are a bonus, not the actual race.
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Did you miss the video? The one with the Accord with Cai and test pipe?
Thanks for the back up guys. Maybe he's salty cause I beat the G? LOl Just messing with you Dave
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
And let's not forget Road & Track only got a 14.5 out of the Accord.
i was really suprised with that time that Road and track got. Heck the 7th gen 6MT accord can run quicker than a 14.5 at best.
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Originally Posted by justinl401
You tell em'! Cause im sure he posted his thoughts on the car for you to criticism. And I think theres a vid in here of the accord running a 13.6? Whats that .5 faster then you with way less mods? and thats 1) 2) and 3) all bunched up.
You mean the Accord running on that Canadian track that is the same one that a bone stock 03 6MT G35 sedan ran a 13.8? The same track that a stock C6 Z06 did a 10.9 on DRs? The same track that a stock Altima SER did a 13.8? Yeah, those times aren't the norm. What are other Accord owners running on a US track? I'd bet most modded Accords like that are doing 13.9-14.2@102mph. Prove me wrong.

BTW, my 14.3 was with a 350Z intake tube which adds no power. The power mods on my car add a mere 15whp, maybe.
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Originally Posted by L's TL
Like I said earlier, i will be taking the car to the track in late September early October when its not 80% + humidity out
Good luck, I sincerely mean it, but I think you're going to be shocked at how much slower the car is than you think. Ever raced before?


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That really has no validity because the light turning green means go just like at a drag strip. So the skill is going when you are supposed to whether its street or track
There's plenty on validity. In most of these case, you're simply beating drivers not the cars. I've raced much quicker cars at the strip (mid 13 second cars) and have beat them to the finish only because I was quicker to react and/or my 60' was better. If the race was on the street, to the observer, my low 14 second car would appear to be faster than the mid 13 second car I was racing.
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
I'd bet most well-driven stock Accords like that are doing 13.9-14.2@102mph.
Fixed.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Fixed.
You also need to add:

1) In sea level conditions
2) On a decent track
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Dave_B is such a negative nancy


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Lol. Good runs. I really wanna line up with a 6MT 8th gen, especially after hearing all these stories. I think it'd be a really close race. One thing I can't see though, is the car putting down 282whp. The motors are underrated, but even if it put out 250whp stock there is no justification in a 30whp increase from CAI/test pipe.

Mick is a good driver for sure, but that track is rather fast. Nice kills
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
You also need to add:

1) In sea level conditions
2) On a decent track
That's correct, for a 7th gen Accord V6, like the Sonnick's, which did 14@100mph with a few mods, as you can see from his signature.
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Dave_B is such a negative nancy

Nope, just a realist.

I should also that I do believe his car is capable of beating these cars. I just don't believe his car is near as quick as he thinks. I'd 99% certain he'll be like my TL-S owners that swear their cars are deep into the 13s, only to find out they can't get out of the mid 14s with even decent 60 foot. The truth lies in the MPH. 98-100mph cars don't go deep 13s unless they're on full blown slicks and a crazy rpm launch.

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