pass427

well currently I have a 2004 6spd with 70,000 miles love it dearly never really owned a auto before, but know I think it's time to part, gonna trade it in for a 2008 types brand new , but there's one problem only automatic are left (not too happy about that).. My question is how much quicker is the 6spd types compare to auto,is there really a big gap?.. The only advantage for me is I never have to worry about a clutch job again......

Bearcat94

It's a pretty good difference, but not over-whelming. About what you'd expect I guess. Lower gear acceleration is where you'll notice it most I guess.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/how-much-power-actually-makes-wheels-700521/

princelybug

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^^^I agree. That's why I think you should stick with a manual tranny, and not go for any auto's. I don't think you'd be happy with the performance or the overall "driving experience". 2 cents.

SouthernBoy

Well at only 70,000 miles, you shouldn't have to worry about a clutch job for a long, long time.. unless you're doing something extraordinary or incorrectly.

Think of this. With a manual versus an automatic, it's not about the difference in performance so much. It's the difference you enjoy every time you drive your car. Just the sheer act of shifting and the feeling of the one-to-one relationship between your drive train and you is enough to qualify your decision.

Cecilt

My previous 2 cars were manual (330i and TL) and i just got the Type S auto. No regrets. It's a nice change and the auot Type S is just as fast if not faster than my 6speed TL. Its different but not different to where I regret my decision. Sometimes its just nice to kick back and let the tranny do the work for you.

pass427

hey thanks for all the reply really love my 04 but mileage is getting too high .....guess i have to get use to the auto,which im not sure if im really gonna like it ..tuogh decision

pass427

got the car with 42k now its 70k after going to the dyno i foundout clutch is wearing bad... but totally agree with you nothing like a stick

milk man

i say stick with your 04 tl ...nothing like stick

pass427

the way my mind is going i probably end up doing so .......................................then i would end up keeping it and pay it off

grsd03

I'm got a stick tl-s and i love it, I test drove the auto when I first at the dealership and was about to buy that one but then I thought lets see how the tl-s manual is and fell in love with it as soon as I pulled out of the lot. I felt as though it was much sporty then the auto and since I was already buying a car with 4 doors (which i was against at first), I wanted something that would still feel like a sports car.

erick3

i f-ing hate you all...auto aka me...ftLOSE...

vinnier6

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english please....

knavinusa

Agreed. I have a 5spd matrix that's only a bit faster than a corolla, but the feeling of control that you get is just so much fun.

RC51Ryder

Exactly what I was thinking.

Bearcat94

He is sick with envy at the MT owners. It's so bad he loses his ability to communicate. He's also a loser (I think I interpreted that bit correctly; I personally don't know him, so would not call him a loser. But if the shoe fits .... . ).

jeowen

JD TL-S

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I read the 07 TL-S auto is 1 second slower in the 1/4 mile then an 07 TL-S manual.

Bearcat94

R&T did 13.9 at the 1/4 mile (6MT w/Summer Tires)

I did 14.4's - 14.5's (best of 14.37) (5AT with MXM4's - :uhg: - modest weight reduction, no HP mods).


IOW - I don't buy a 1 second difference. 1/2 sec give or take a tenth or two.


I never could find a published 5AT 1/4 mile time.

SouthernBoy

Why is your clutch wearing badly? Is there something wrong with the system such as a failing hydraulic system, pressure plate, or perhaps defect parts?

Let me ask you this. Describe how you downshift.

ridenfish39

My 04 has 81k and is going strong. I would never drive an auto unless I commuted in heavy traffic every day. This is the longest I have ever kept a car and I still really enjoy driving it. (...and I had a 97 Ram Air Formula with plenty of mods) Autos are boring and

Integra

the auto gets really boring. keep the 6sp. it still has low miles for a honda/acura.

JD TL-S

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After owning a new 06 Accord loaded auto, a new 06 TL loaded auto, a new 07 TL-S auto, and currently driving a 2007 Civic Si, I LOVE manuals! Keep the stick. I am tradding in my 07 Si on a certified, MINT, MANUAL, NAV 2006 WDP TL with 28k miles TODAY. I can't wait!!!

KEEP the manual. Nothing compares.

pass427

loss of power drastic ,and went to dyno couple weeks ago that's when I found out car still drives just takes even longer to get up to speeds hard to explain but if you're use to your car you'll know when something ain't clicking ,I'm thinking first owner put significant wear on it got it with 46k..........

stillhere153

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find a used 6speed, you don't want to deal with not having the extra throttle response

SouthernBoy

The clutch assembly has no effect over the production of power. However, it most definitely effects the delivery of engine power to the transmission. If the engine is operating as it should, then what you're describing sounds like you have a major slippage problem which would be easy to feel and diagnose.

Is the clutch slipping as in serious slippage?