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Old 09-04-2004 | 06:03 PM
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6 spd production shut down.

I was down at my dealer today and he told that 6spd production is shut down.They will not see any 6pd NAV/NONNAV until Jan or Feb. He doesn't know why.
Old 09-04-2004 | 06:32 PM
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6-speed not quite down

I happen to work in Acura of South Bay in Torrance,Ca and we have still two incomming 2004 6-speed TL's. As far as I've heard there has not been a hault of production for 6-speeds. Altough their production is slower it is not stopped. It is possible that he meant that the 2004 production is stoped, however 2005's will still have 6-speeds available(before Jan/Feb 05).
Old 09-04-2004 | 06:33 PM
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Old 09-04-2004 | 07:07 PM
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My 2004 6MT was ordered in August 2003 and originally promised to me on October 2003. But the 6MT's were delayed and I did not get the car till January 2004. Acura probably likes to Push the AT's first it seems.
Old 09-04-2004 | 08:08 PM
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Nicki is right, I remember this story, dunno why Acura seems to do this again.

BTW, Navi was temp halted last Nov & Dec due to the shortage of Navi parts, but I forgot the real reasons why.



Sidenote, "vtechbrain" was the first member I knew getting 6MT at that time, in the end of last Oct. http://www.imagestation.com/album/?i...67&mode=invite
Old 09-04-2004 | 08:41 PM
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It is possible Acura as something up its sleeve for the '05 6mt in response to G35 Coupe and 290 hp manual version.

I know the official word is no change.

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Old 09-04-2004 | 09:48 PM
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2005 G35 6MT Sedan and Coupe both with 298 HP
Old 09-04-2004 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoot2Thrill
2005 G35 6MT Sedan and Coupe both with 298 HP
wrong info...the 6MT coupe will have 295 hp, and the sedan will only have 280 in both auto and manual.
Old 09-05-2004 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Gatorfan
It is possible Acura as something up its sleeve for the '05 6mt in response to G35 Coupe and 290 hp manual version.

I know the official word is no change.

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highly doubt it. the TL just came out this year. maybe in 2 years it will get a performance upgrade.
Old 09-05-2004 | 12:06 AM
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Old 09-05-2004 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FLAcuraTLS
wrong info...the 6MT coupe will have 295 hp, and the sedan will only have 280 in both auto and manual.
Wrong info. The 2005 6MT G35 sedan will have 298 HP and the AT G35 sedan will have 280 HP.

http://www.infinitinews.com/

"The G35 sedan’s standard 3.5-liter V6 engine now offers 280 hp and 270 ft-lb of torque, increases of 20 hp and 10 lb-ft of torque for automatic transmission equipped models. The G35 6MT model with close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission receives 38 additional horsepower to 298 hp."

Concerning the topic of this thread, the 2005 G35 6MT won't be available until December, two months after the 2005 G35 AT. Looks like both Acura/Honda and Infiniti/Nissan are concentrating their initial 2005 production on AT models. That shouldn't be surprising, given that 80-90% of annual sales are AT models.
Old 09-05-2004 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DWP
Wrong info. The 2005 6MT G35 sedan will have 298 HP and the AT G35 sedan will have 280 HP.

http://www.infinitinews.com/

"The G35 sedan’s standard 3.5-liter V6 engine now offers 280 hp and 270 ft-lb of torque, increases of 20 hp and 10 lb-ft of torque for automatic transmission equipped models. The G35 6MT model with close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission receives 38 additional horsepower to 298 hp."
this is all on paper the VQ engine already puts that much power from day 1. they just lie about the horsepower numbers in the various vehicles they offer.
Old 09-05-2004 | 09:23 AM
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Say what you want, I'm going to look at a 2005. It looks like an impressive car. I got a kick out how this forum bitched and moaned all week about the lack of changes in the TL and Infiniti drops a little M5 down. Message to Acura - NO 6mt No Sale
Old 09-06-2004 | 04:43 PM
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When a G35 hits 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, we'll know Nissan has finally delivered a motor with the same HP as the TL (2004 G35 sedan it is one second behind). Obviously, Nissan's ponies are smaller than Honda's.
Old 09-06-2004 | 04:56 PM
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G35 SEDAN = Ugly Shit
Old 09-06-2004 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mio
G35 SEDAN = Ugly Shit
Old 09-06-2004 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mio
G35 SEDAN = Ugly Shit
Exactly
Old 09-07-2004 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin32
I happen to work in Acura of South Bay in Torrance,Ca and we have still two incomming 2004 6-speed TL's. As far as I've heard there has not been a hault of production for 6-speeds. Altough their production is slower it is not stopped. It is possible that he meant that the 2004 production is stoped, however 2005's will still have 6-speeds available(before Jan/Feb 05).
Yep my dealer had one coming in. it was already sold and now they can't order any.
Old 09-07-2004 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pettydw
When a G35 hits 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, we'll know Nissan has finally delivered a motor with the same HP as the TL (2004 G35 sedan it is one second behind). Obviously, Nissan's ponies are smaller than Honda's.
Uhh...I hate misinformation Automobile magazine rated the 6mt sedan at 5.6 0-60. The G35 coupe gets 0-60 in 5.5 (C&D). Numerous timeslips on g35driver.com that show that stock sedan 6mt gets 14.1 seconds. BTW, the sedan dynos at 225hp on average and the coupe dynos around 230hp. Thats about 280hp at crank.

Just getting the facts straight.

BTW, what is the ratio of 6-speeds sold vs. 5 autos.
Old 09-07-2004 | 07:09 AM
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Typical during production year change , no biggie . Just going to have to wait a little longer.
Old 09-07-2004 | 08:29 AM
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1 in 27 made 6spd
1 in 37 sold 6spd

says salesman but you never know. but this guy is an acura fan so... but who really knows.
Old 09-07-2004 | 08:41 AM
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Can anyone actually officially confirm or deny this?

I had an 05 on order that was supposed to arrive 10-10. My lease is up and I cannot wait until Jan for my new car.

If this is the case, I need to go car shopping again NOW. Please advise.
Old 09-07-2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gyrus
1 in 27 made 6spd
1 in 37 sold 6spd

says salesman but you never know. but this guy is an acura fan so... but who really knows.
That salesman is full of it (normal)! If only 1 in 37 is sold and 1 in 27 is made, Acura car lots would have a surpluss of 6MT's, which they don't. In fact, there aren't any left and usually they are sold before they even reach the lot.
Old 09-07-2004 | 11:07 AM
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i think it's 1 in 37 sold at this particular dealership. last month they had about 6 manuals available out of about 50 TL's.

at least you could trust the numbers at his own dealership.
Old 09-07-2004 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pettydw
When a G35 hits 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, we'll know Nissan has finally delivered a motor with the same HP as the TL (2004 G35 sedan it is one second behind). Obviously, Nissan's ponies are smaller than Honda's.
HUH? What you smoking? The G35 sedan does 5.6 0-60 that as I recall is .1-.2 faster than the best for the TL.
Old 09-07-2004 | 11:18 AM
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G35 SEDAN = Ugly Shit
Buyers remorse i see
Old 09-07-2004 | 11:22 AM
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Uhh...I hate misinformation Automobile magazine rated the 6mt sedan at 5.6 0-60. The G35 coupe gets 0-60 in 5.5 (C&D). Numerous timeslips on g35driver.com that show that stock sedan 6mt gets 14.1 seconds. BTW, the sedan dynos at 225hp on average and the coupe dynos around 230hp. Thats about 280hp at crank.

Just getting the facts straight.

BTW, what is the ratio of 6-speeds sold vs. 5 autos.
Actually 230-235 is the average dyno for a stock 6mt sedan. Mine did 234 hp and 234 tq stock.
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Originally Posted by pettydw
When a G35 hits 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, we'll know Nissan has finally delivered a motor with the same HP as the TL (2004 G35 sedan it is one second behind). Obviously, Nissan's ponies are smaller than Honda's.
How about 0-60 in 5.6 seconds for the 6-Speed manual sedan and 5.5 seconds for the 6-Speed coupe? Check the facts bro, obviously before you get...

G35 Sedan

Sedan 6MT Sport - Automobile - October 2003 - 0-60 MPH - 5.60 Seconds
Sedan 6MT Sport - Motor Trend - August 2003 - 0-60 MPH - 5.78 Seconds
Sedan 6MT Sport - Car and Driver - October 2003 0-60 MPH - 5.90 Seconds
Sedan 5AT Sport - Road & Track - July 2002 - 0-60 MPH - 6.20 Seconds
Sedan 5AT Sport - Car and Driver - May 2002 - 0-60 MPH - 6.20 Seconds
Sedan 5AT Base - Motor Trend - August 2002 - 0-60 MPH - 6.21 Seconds
Sedan 6MT Sport - Car and Driver - March 2004 - 0-60 MPH - 6.30 Seconds
Sedan 5AT AWD - Motor Trend - February 2004 - 0-60 MPH - 6.50 Seconds
Sedan 5AT Sport - Motor Trend - January-2003 - 0-60 MPH - 6.51 Seconds

G35 Coupe

Coupe 6MT Base - Car and Driver April-2003 - 0-60 MPH - 5.50 Seconds
Coupe 6MT Base - AutoWeek - July 2003 - 0-60 MPH - 5.78 Seconds
Coupe 6MT Base - Motor Trend - June 2003 - 0-60 MPH - 5.80 Seconds
Coupe 6MT Base - Motor Trend January 2003 - 0-60 MPH - 5.83 Seconds
Coupe 6MT Base - Car and Driver - January-2003 - 0-60 MPH - 6.00 Seconds
Coupe 6MT Base - Automobile - November 2003 - 0-60 MPH - 6.00 Seconds
Coupe 6MT Base - Road & Track - November 2002 - 0-60 MPH - 6.10 Seconds
Old 09-08-2004 | 11:56 AM
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Good news! I found out yesterday that the build date for my '05 6Spd/Navi is September 19th. I'm counting the days!
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I really hate to add fuel to the G35 sub conversation going on in here, but if the G35c Manual is getting 298 for 05, did anyone consider this may be a positive side effect of the Voluntary Japenese HP Limit that was just revoked or abandoned earlier this year?

The Limit was right around 280 if I remember right.
Hell, dont forget that the Skyline GTR R34 VSpec II was only listed at 280hp also, when we all know it had alot more under the hood.

Sorry I added some rational thought into this thread. You may now continue arguing over 0-60 times.
Old 09-08-2004 | 10:15 PM
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although I own a TL the G35 [sedan] is a far better driver's car. I have one of those too.
Old 09-08-2004 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
Actually 230-235 is the average dyno for a stock 6mt sedan. Mine did 234 hp and 234 tq stock.
On average, the coupe dynos about 5hp higher than the sedan. The sedan has a more restrictive exhaust system. That is pretty much the concensus on the g35 forums. The fastest stock coupe i've seen is 13.9. The fastest sedan is 14.1. Factory freaks for sure but very in line with the fastest Z at 13.6 stock.
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