5spd AT or 6spd MT?
#82
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Originally Posted by hondafan
Not to beat a dead horse but if Acura did not offer a MT I'd opt for an Honda Odyssey Touring before I'd even consider an AT TL.
#83
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Originally Posted by clausda0
I think its interesting that a lot of the owners on this website have the Manual, despite how rare it is, and for me, more complicated to purchase.
#84
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Originally Posted by Brettg
I have seen quotes of 3/4 second faster 0-60 mph, mostly due to the much lower gearing the 6MT has.
100 pound weight difference, LSD, lower gearing, some slight extra power loss
in the auto trans, but I think the gear ratio, extra gear, and LSD are the big things.
I think in an actual race, most AT guys would thake the 6MT guys, how many people practice taking off at full speed?
Plus, its easy to surprise a 6MT driver, while all the AT guy has to do is mash the gas pedal down.
Brett
100 pound weight difference, LSD, lower gearing, some slight extra power loss
in the auto trans, but I think the gear ratio, extra gear, and LSD are the big things.
I think in an actual race, most AT guys would thake the 6MT guys, how many people practice taking off at full speed?
Plus, its easy to surprise a 6MT driver, while all the AT guy has to do is mash the gas pedal down.
Brett
#85
Maybe I am mixing up my terms, I thought the auto trans TL got its good gas mileage (same as the manual trans) by having the motor spin less at the same speed in top gear.
I thought I read someplace that the auto trans TL had the motor spinning a few hundred rpm lower at 70 mph then the manual does.
They have to do something to make up for the auto trans loss, yet the auto and manual get the exact same mpg...
The auto trans also locks up the torque converter, not sure about the TL but many cars (like the passat) locked it in each gear except when the trans was shifting.
Brett
I thought I read someplace that the auto trans TL had the motor spinning a few hundred rpm lower at 70 mph then the manual does.
They have to do something to make up for the auto trans loss, yet the auto and manual get the exact same mpg...
The auto trans also locks up the torque converter, not sure about the TL but many cars (like the passat) locked it in each gear except when the trans was shifting.
Brett
#86
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Originally Posted by Brettg
Maybe I am mixing up my terms, I thought the auto trans TL got its good gas mileage (same as the manual trans) by having the motor spin less at the same speed in top gear.
I thought I read someplace that the auto trans TL had the motor spinning a few hundred rpm lower at 70 mph then the manual does.
They have to do something to make up for the auto trans loss, yet the auto and manual get the exact same mpg...
The auto trans also locks up the torque converter, not sure about the TL but many cars (like the passat) locked it in each gear except when the trans was shifting.
Brett
I thought I read someplace that the auto trans TL had the motor spinning a few hundred rpm lower at 70 mph then the manual does.
They have to do something to make up for the auto trans loss, yet the auto and manual get the exact same mpg...
The auto trans also locks up the torque converter, not sure about the TL but many cars (like the passat) locked it in each gear except when the trans was shifting.
Brett
Anyway, there is more parasitic loss with the automatic versus the manual.
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