Red flag alert.

 

 

I don't drive my 4G to work and my truck averages 16 on the highway, so I think anything over 20 is an improvement.

 

Lots of red flags. Glad to see other AZ members looking out!

 

I looked at that dealer when i was buying my car due to there cheap prices. You have to take a loan out thru them and only 2500 down. If you want to pay cash the price almost doubles. It is a scam....

 

Here we go again... Where in your first few posts did you talk about flipping this car? I only saw one reference and it wasn't you. By the way your post about flipping the car came after my post- I can't read your mind genius.

The thing I know about your past posts is they create too many side questions because things usually don't add up. I noticed you never answered my question on the SHO which I doubted you ever owned by your BS answers to a thread you started in the 4g forum.

Welcome to the 3G area though. I had you ignored in the 4g forum- looks like I need to do the same in this forum too.

 

lol take it from a guy who got his 08 BASE with 126k from a buy here pay here... after finance for 3 yrs is over 18k...

 

Maybe it's just me or the poor pictures, but the front and rear panels don't seem to properly line up either... and the other cars on their website have telltale damage signs.

 

http://www.cars.com/dealers/5244268/...sales/reviews/

This is there real name and check out there poor reviews

 

Wow, there's some people pretty irritated with that dealer! Amazing how consumer protection laws vary by state. Here in Wisconsin I think it's illegal to advertise a low price with financing strings attached when the cash price is significantly higher.

No matter what, one message that applies to all - buyer beware.

 

The laws may vary but there are very similar laws here too. The problem is that some of these dealers are brazen and blatant about doing what they feel like, they nearly all do it with little oversight. It's because they get away with it most of the time because nobody is calling them out on it. Sometimes they will say that is the "finance price" or say you have to qualify for military, student, senior, etc, discount. Whatever BS they can come up with.

On certain streets, you will see a ton of very similar looking "new" dealerships that have really fancy cars and a fancy website but hardly a shack of an office. A lot of these businesses come and go, pop up somewhere else and rename themselves. I'd rather buy from an original owner or certified with warranty. At least that way I'd know how many state borders the car has crossed.

But as the cars.com reviews state, the most common thing they really do is "bait and switch". I was helping a friend shop for a car. I asked on the phone specifically to ensure everything was legit and even said "this better not be bait and switch and a waste of my time." Sure enough that was EXACTLY what they did. All of a sudden the car disappeared to "another dealership". Yea OK, where? You only have one, lol. Luckily this dealership was only 10mins away so we didn't travel far at least. Anyways I was ticked off so we proceeded to have BS joyrides in whatever car they had lying around there (that were not exactly on our shopping list.) My friend is very wealthy and looks the part so it was convincing. We drove an M3 convertible, S4 and a CLS550 just for the hell of it. Hahaha. You waste my time, I waste yours!

 

O. Its in brooklyn. That explains it.

 

I just called them up they said it's the correct price and the car is clean and has a clean carfax. I'm may call them back and scoop it up. i would have to fly there and drive it back.

 

 

 

Thanks for the tip, I just bought this bad boy! Have 2 prospective buyers now, one who is already offering $12k sight unseen! Thanks OP!!!

 

Post pics

 

So basically som1 snatched the car before op? Acurazine strikes again. Mwahah

 

These scams are nothing new.
The dealer I work for post up cars for amazing prices to do a bait and switch
when customers come in. Also the car prices themselves are not bad in general,
but they will not sell you a car cash for the selling price.

 

Thats crazy that dealers do that. What a shit ass way to do business. So if you come in with a wad of cash they all of a sudden say that's no longer the price?!?!? And they try to finance you but at some ridiculous rate?

 

^^^not ridiculous rate just at 22%.

 

geezus!! Thats crazy that people fall for that kind of stuff. Unless they simply cant get financing for anything better because of bad credit, its too bad because used car rates are in the 1's right now.
I wonder if there are ways to beat their system. Buy one of their cars with their horrible financing plans, then either pay the car off as soon as you can (as long as their are no early payoff penalties), or just refinance the car right away. Then again I wouldn't want to buy a car from those scumbags anyway. If they are willing to do that kind of business, there's no telling what kind of cars they are selling to people as well.

 

^+1, wouldn't give them the pleasure of seeing any of my $$ or business.

 

those scumbag will drain every dime and penny out of your pocket, they will make it easy for you by offer easy financing but in reality you paying for interest rate about same as credit cards cash advance withdraw. They will make you sign the paper state that you have to finance through them for a certain amount of time before you can refinance other wise there is a penalty fees. its like a cell phone contract, they trying to pull the same thing on me when I shop for a car in NJ. I have to threaten to get the police involve in order for them to stop the paper work. I had seen rate high as 24%.

 

22% not a ridiculous rate??? You're right, that isn't ridiculous, that is a crack head interest rate.

 

found this by searching vin




The car has a salvage/rebuilt title due to previous minor side accident. ... $8,500 VIN: 19UUA76527A008813 Stock #: 008813 Condition: Used Mileage: 117,000 ...

 

Please tell me you are being sarcastic or lying.

 

Its funny how the OP has disappeared..

 

it's not the first time, Brock was interested in a product, then changed his mind

 

And there you have it folks.

 

Why the hell would someone ever ever ever think to get finance at that rate? Even if you didn't no a thing about finance, you still should know better.

 

^ it's what happens when folks don't use due diligence

 

yep right on the money lol

you be surprise how many people have no idea how bad 22% interest rate on a car loan is and how many people don't even bother asking how much is the interest

 

Simple, we all know the reason of course. Because they bank on the fact there are compulsive buyers out there, even if they are only 1:1000 people.

They sign on the dotted line without really processing the details in the numbers (and the potential consequences.) They want the product and they want it now. (greed is a bitch.) They get approved and it's like some "feel-good" achievement, because they usually get declined for credit cards and mortgages. (At a rate like that anyone with a job is approved. You don't even need credit.) And so naturally they will default. And they will evade as much as possible. And the creditors will add every penalty and fee in the book, sooner or later they catch up to them and clean em out. And these people will cry about the bed they made for themselves.

It's what I think about whenever I look up at the Bank of America or Citibank building in Manhattan. These are the people that built it. lol.

I for one only put myself in debt for real estate. (which is worth it, there is a better chance that is an appreciating asset.) That's it. Everything else is ready cash. So I don't understand this mentality of credit addiction at all. Living within your means and no bills means less stress than life already gives you. And the vultures that prey on greed are a special type of evil.

 

Or its there only option because of past credit issues. Please in need will do most anything....

 

*people....

 

Exactly.

I have always found it ironic the folks with the worst credit are the ones saddled with higher interest rates which in turn makes if more difficult for them to dig themselves out. However I do understand the risk the banks take on and those borrowers who do default and/or have no intention of paying in full.........

 

Right, but I don't get that. People in need? Or buying what they don't need? Many people buy things to keep up with the Jones. For the compliments and envy.

I see 20yr olds working for $15/hr to buy Prada, Rolex and Gucci. What? I mean OK you work hard, do what you want with your money, but common sense says luxury brands are for a certain type of buyer. Those people buy it without credit and without stress and live within their means. I have a friend who had all kinds of financial problems when she was making $30k/yr. Today she makes over $100k and still in her viscous cycle. She just has a bad relationship with money and expects it to fix all her underlying problems. All these people do is make other people millionaires.

Borrowing to buy a used TL doesn't make sense if your credit is that bad. Buy a $3000 clunker with cash for awhile and appreciate it and work yourself up just like the majority of sensible people do. It's not rocket science, that's life and most of us have been there. I dream of buying a supercar and could probably even buy one today. But it truly wouldn't realistically be within my means or a smart choice. I want to write that check without blinking. Unless someone has been put in debt over health reasons or education it's rarely hard to sympathize.

 

haha touche

 

Look at the hood / fender line. You can see it is out of alignment in the picture. I'm from Jerz so we never buy a vehicle used out of NY. Brooklyn is called Crooklyn for a reason. LMAO @ No insurance required to buy in the ad. That car had the front end smashed. Reused bumper, put a lip on it, flash painted the front probably and said here it is!