Question guys,

I have having second thoughts about a purchase and I really need some input either way. Just honest perspective to help me decide which way to go.

A gentlemen and I have been in contact regarding a 2007 TL-S with over 84k miles. It has the stock TL-S wheels moved and has base wheels, it also has base tail lights instead of TL-S taillights.

He doesn't want to come down on price at all, it is a one owner previous person was a lease. He also said there is a small dent on the trunk. He is asking $17,500 for it. He wont move on price and doesnt have the old TL-S parts to put back on.

Seems like a good deal, but should I stay away?

I don't get PMs yet, but if you could please email me it would be greatly appreciated.

jheck95@gmail.com

Thank you so much, any insight is going to help a long ways.

 

1. Why would you switch from the stock TL-S wheels to base wheels? The TL-S wheels are better!

2. Why would you switch out the TL-S taillights?

Does he have proof that the car is indeed a TL-S and not a base TL?

84k miles is alot of miles for a 2007. That's only 3 -4 yrs old.

I definitely wouldn't pay 17,500 for it.

I have seen 2007 TL-S with like 25-30k miles for like 24k.

Thats a good 50k miles less for only 7k more, plus you get the TL-S wheels and TL-S taillights.


I bet the "TL-S" the guy is selling probably looks like a plain TL.

I say stay away and wait for the right deal.

 

Proof it's a Type-S? Simple: All you gotta do is look at the VIN. If it's a UA7, it's a Type-S.

I don't know why he'd swap those part either. And then not save the OE stuff; it's a lease.

Does sound odd, but I'd worry it'd been in an accident or had the wheels stolen or something like that.

 

I'm guessing he did a trade with some cash to make a bit of money before he sold the car, and now he's trying to sell it as if he hadn't taken those parts off.

But the only way to know for sure is to ask.

I agree, stay away from this one and get a Type-S that's got all the Type-S stuff.

 

I have pics of the vehicle for sale also. It is out of state, so I havent seen it physically yet, but going to make the trip this week.

I just didn't want to drive a couple of states over if this is not worth my time.

 

Post them! Most of the users on here can tell you if it's really a Type-S or not, even if it doesn't have the wheels and tails

 

Hey Guys,

Here are some of the pics of the TL-S I was describing to you. I though this was a private party transaction, but turns out he is some sort of dealer. I had plans to meet him this week to inspect/purchase the vehicle.

My hope is that some of you can provide some insight in this deal and suggest weather it is fair or I should stay away. I think I have TL-S goggles on (not a bad thing) and would prefer an unbiased suggestion.

I have been looking for TL-S for a few months and this seems like a reasonable deal. The VIN checks out as a TL-S, it is 1 owner and has not been reported in an accident. The mileage is a touch high, but 2 things here. I can’t spend 25k on a car so mileage is going to have to be a touch high for my price point. Also, I am hoping 84K in mileage isn’t a major concern. (Accord has 250k and still going strong) J

So if you wanted a TL-S and this offer was presented to you and you had to stay around 19k and under do you accept? What would be the maximum you would pay?


-jheck

 

Don't know what's fair price-wise. I wouldn't be too worried about miles if it was well cared for.

For sure a Type-S, so whoever thought it was a scam was off base.

Don't like the wheels on it. $$$ to replace them.

 

I also think it is a TL-S. I prefer the TL-S Taillights and Rims though.

 

Yea, I think its a TL-S, not sure what the deal is with the tails. He said he the previous owner prefered base wheels vs. Type S.

I personally like the type S wheels, so I would probably get those if I got this ride. But it looks like that would add $1000-$1200 to the price if I did that. Plus I would like some new tail lights.

 

I'd say go for it...You could always get wheels and taillights. 17k for a Type-S is a steal! I bought mine with 87k on it for 19k out the door. Go for it...

 

it's a type-s, minus the differences you've pointed out w/ tails, wheels.

you can get type-s wheels/tires for under $1200, people sell them on the black market here all the time. check out that section before you go spending over $1k on wheels.

i would say keep looking, unless you don't mind putting in additional money off the bat with this car.

also, if possible, have a mechanic check everything over on the vehicle before you sign anything. carfax never tells the whole story. a lot of things never get reported to insurance co's or carfax.

i recently swapped out my tails this past weekend, when i removed the rear bumper, i noticed that the bumper used to be RED.
also, the rear metal reinforcement looks like the car had been hit from behind just a little (minor bend in the metal) barely noticeable, but still there if you look hard (they did a decent job repairing the reinforcement bar)

basically was a minor rear fender bender, never reported, and bumper was replaced with a red one, then painted black. not the end of the world...but still pisses me off.

according to my dealer, car was never in an accident. don't believe everything you hear or read, have things looked over good first.

 

Too many red flags with this one. Wheels, tails, dealer, etc.

I'd walk away and keep looking.

 

To be honest, I would like to go through with it if it is one owner and clean.

The dealer part might work out, he wants me to pay taxes in his state which is cheaper than the state I am from, a little bit of cost savings there.

Is it worth my time to drive over and check it out- I would like to protect myself as much as possible. But the price is decent enough I could probably buy wheels/lights later.

thoughts?

 

just my .02-

Are you planning on modding this car? If so, many members quickly start out modding their wheels and tails (this site and the consequent modding are contagious- and it's viral w/o a cure). If that's the case, then the base wheels and tails are a non-issue.

Its the miles that would potentially concern me on an '07. Definitely check the service record (if the car has it), and verify with an independant mechanic. Good luck-

 

If the PPI comes out good then it seems like a good price.

 

At 17k, if everything checks out clean I'd be all over that. Like a sore d*ck... u can't beat it! I had 180k on my 2G TL when I traded it in and I plan on getting that plus more out my Type S. These cars if maintained properly are tanks!

 

jheck, it IS a Type S-you can tell by the foglight assembly too. It's a shame he doesn't have the original tails and wheels. But it is inexpensive enough that you can re-acquire them both-if you want to.

It doesn't seem like a bad price-be sure to have another mechanic go over it-if possible-before you buy it.

 

I would stay away from a dealer who is willing to pull this crap. That is more than likely illegal. In many (most?) states if you purchase a used car from outside the state you live you will have to pay sales tax on the car to your home state before you can register it there. Do your reasearch on the tax liabilities. Also, if your state has any kind of safety inspection make arrangements ahead of time for who will be paying for any repairs should they be required.

Good Luck!

 

+1 - I completely agree on the tax part. A buddy of mine flew to Oklahoma for his car (2010 Challenger SRT8 for 36k, kbb at 45k). They asked him to pay for the taxes for OK, he thought it was a great deal and didn't think that since he paid for OK, he didn't have to pay for VA. So he paid it. He drove it back to VA and registered the car to VA and had to pay another $1,300 on top for VA state Tax.

He's been fighting to get his $$ back for the amount of tax he paid for the car at the dealership. It's been 5 months, still hasn't received any money back.

If they are trying to make you pay their state tax, definitely walk the other way.

 

I had checked this out with the BMV and a few friends that purchase vehicles quite a bit. They said they have heard of some people having to pay out of state taxes. (based on if the state you are from charges the state they are from taxes) Kinda like since you charge us, we will charge you.

I will confirm with this tomorrow. Any concerns or issues I will back out.

WhteTLS - Your buddy was charged for taxes twice? the state he purchased and the state he resides? WOW!

 

I used to live in Delaware and purchased all my vehicles in Penn. All dealers would always charge me proper tax for De but then send the check to the DMV to cover my taxes once I registered the vehicle. As everyone else has stated, look elsewhere. I'm sure you can find a Type S, with all the right equipment in that price range. Be patient!!! I had to move fast when looking for my new vehicle because my old TL was totaled and I was in a rental that was almost due back. I ended up getting a Type S, but it was not the deal I really looking for!

 

This is the deal I am looking for - I have been looking for a few months actually. But your advice is to stay away because it sounds like he wants to charge for tax? Is he making a profit off this?

Below is the document that he referred me to. He said he is required to charge me taxes. You think that is BS?

http://tax.ohio.gov/divisions/sales_...erv3-31-08.pdf

 

I missed a TL a few weeks ago that had higher miles and higher price. I don't know if I will see another TL-S go for $17k soon. That is why I am debating on purchasing if everything checks out.

 

Anyone had a chance to check out that form I posted and see if its legit? Came from Ohio tax website. /shrug

Starting to stress this - got inspections scheduled tomorrow, don't want to pay for it if its not needed

 

Guys,

Spoke to my BMV regarding the Ohio out of state tax requirement. The assured me it is legit. I just need my bill of sale when I register the vehicle. If there is a difference in the tax I paid vs residence state I would owe the difference.



Example

Ohio tax is 6% Indiana is 7%

I would still owe Indiana 1% of tax to cover the difference.

 

If it's what you're looking for, and everything checks out, i'd go for it.

Do your research, find a well-respected mechanic in the area, call him and have him check it out when you arrive to look at the car. Make sure to look at it yourself as well

I wonder if you could negotiate Type-S tails and wheels as part of the deal. Technically you're stil buying a Type-S, so you'd want all Type-S parts.

Good luck!

 

Too late.. Majofo bought it.

/thread

 

Doing business with a dealer that is so far away from you is dicey. Not many people will drive hours out of their way to get a car and the dealer will realize that and not budge on price or getting the stock TL-S tails and wheels back on the car. The TL-S I bought had the stock 07-08 tails on it also, it took me leaving the dealership and driving home (3 hours) to make them realize that I wasn't going to just buy the car as-is. And my car is CPO!! Too bad I didn't notice a few other issues also.

I am going to agree with a few of the members above. A TL-S is not an ultra rare car (although with 6MT and certain color combonations it can seem that way) so there will be others. If I were you and the dealer wasn't going to help me get the car back to OEM parts, I would walk away. At least spend a day or two haggling with them on the phone about these issues before you make the drive.

 

I appreciate that insight, from the way I understand it, he is an individual but has a dealer license. So it's not a dealership per say.

It very well may be a wasted trip, I am prepared for that. I do think the price a lots for me to get it back to OEM in a decent price point.

I am going to pick up the car and take it to an Acura dealer to have it inspected tomorrow. Pending their inspection I will purchase. I do hope it goes well, but if it doesn't I have to be prepared to walk away.

 

Good luck... hope everything works out. I know how frustrating this experience is, I just finished it up!

 

Ya it's a type-s. Look at the gauge and the color of the clock led, if they are RED then it's type-s.

Oh, ya, check under the hood and make sure it's a 3.5

 

What a steal, if it all checks out of course.

 

Thanks guys. You all will be the first to know how it goes down regardless of the outcome!

/hopes he is part of the Acura Family tomorrow.

 

I am a TL owner!!

Now, lets start moddin this bad boy!

 

Congrats J! Go for it (the modding, that is!).

 

congratz! ... glad it worked out for u

 

It seems odd to me that if indeed the car was a lease the car was modded AND was allowed to be returned at the end of the lease without being back in its original state!

Did he deliberately misrepresent himself as an individual seller?

I would be having the car checked THOROUGHLY by a trusted mechanic!

 

Congrats on the purchase!!