08 MT Type S vs MT 08 G37S
08-04-2008, 11:57 PM
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08 MT Type S vs MT 08 G37S
So far I have been very busy with work. Good news here in South Florida Acura keeps representing those TYPE S models that are a threat to our competition in the 6 cylinder category.
TYPE S MT vs G37S took place today finally. Pro's and Con's...If you own a AT Type S unless modded up the ass don't attempt this race. I had the opportunity to go head to head with a G37S. Outstanding machine specially since its a rear wheel drive and thats an advantage for them.
On a roll-on I call it a tie if both cars were stock. I an modded with the CAI race pipe and Jpipe...stock mufflers no catback. By 3rd gear vtec activation it was nothing else than history.
G37S Mods were BFGoodrich drag radials tires and intake. Ohhh and yes it was a manual transmission so there is no excuse we were both on the same category. Acura is a lot lighter compared to the 3.7Liter engine from Infiniti so that is also taken into account.
Unfortunately official 1/4 mile results are not possible at this moment. I will keep you posted.
Purpose of this post is for those out there that think 335I or G37S or G35 will kick you ass...Well it is proven...Yes I am MT but a good AT modded up the ass will teach them a lesson.
Older version M3's are still on the test...I will keep you posted
TYPE S MT vs G37S took place today finally. Pro's and Con's...If you own a AT Type S unless modded up the ass don't attempt this race. I had the opportunity to go head to head with a G37S. Outstanding machine specially since its a rear wheel drive and thats an advantage for them.
On a roll-on I call it a tie if both cars were stock. I an modded with the CAI race pipe and Jpipe...stock mufflers no catback. By 3rd gear vtec activation it was nothing else than history.
G37S Mods were BFGoodrich drag radials tires and intake. Ohhh and yes it was a manual transmission so there is no excuse we were both on the same category. Acura is a lot lighter compared to the 3.7Liter engine from Infiniti so that is also taken into account.
Unfortunately official 1/4 mile results are not possible at this moment. I will keep you posted.
Purpose of this post is for those out there that think 335I or G37S or G35 will kick you ass...Well it is proven...Yes I am MT but a good AT modded up the ass will teach them a lesson.
Older version M3's are still on the test...I will keep you posted
08-05-2008, 12:01 AM
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What are the specs of a stock G37-S anyway? I've seen them... but don't know about them.
So, if an o8 Type-S TL kept up with a Type-S G37... Would that mean my o4 TL has a chance against a G37?
So, if an o8 Type-S TL kept up with a Type-S G37... Would that mean my o4 TL has a chance against a G37?
08-05-2008, 12:58 AM
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this is good news man. Ok here is my question: I have a 5AT TL Type S with ATLP Exhaust, J-pipe, Race pipe, Injen CAI, UR pulley and my cuz has an automatic G37, not the S. He is stock as well. You think I can take him? From a dig or a roll? Sry for high jacking the thread. Again, congrats on the kill.
08-05-2008, 01:16 AM
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Check out this thread. It kinda tells us about our TLs: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156967
08-05-2008, 02:08 AM
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Ok well prior to precat deletes I ate pretty much anything nissan thru out... 07 Auto TL-S Mod-Head
"Nismo" 350z 2007
Altima SE-R 3.5 Coupe 2008
G37x Sport Trim 2008
Maxima 3.5 2008
Ps. I also took out a 6speed TL-S
"Nismo" 350z 2007
Altima SE-R 3.5 Coupe 2008
G37x Sport Trim 2008
Maxima 3.5 2008
Ps. I also took out a 6speed TL-S
08-05-2008, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
Ok well prior to precat deletes I ate pretty much anything nissan thru out... 07 Auto TL-S Mod-Head
"Nismo" 350z 2007
Altima SE-R 3.5 Coupe 2008
G37x Sport Trim 2008
Maxima 3.5 2008
Ps. I also took out a 6speed TL-S
"Nismo" 350z 2007
Altima SE-R 3.5 Coupe 2008
G37x Sport Trim 2008
Maxima 3.5 2008
Ps. I also took out a 6speed TL-S
Unless you are pretty much in the 13s, my son and his 05 Altima 3.5SE might serve you a reality check. He just posted a 14.165 @ 99mph at Etown this past Saturday....and it's still stock all around.
PM me if you're up for a run against his Altima @ the track.
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08-05-2008, 09:22 AM
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You have must have a factory ringer to be walking on g37's and 335i's with a few very minor bolt ons. Consider yourself very luck. On of my friends has a 335i with the vishnu ecu tune and it runs high 12's in the 1/4.
08-05-2008, 10:24 AM
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You have must have a factory ringer to be walking on g37's and 335i's with a few very minor bolt ons. Consider yourself very luck. On of my friends has a 335i with the vishnu ecu tune and it runs high 12's in the 1/4.
08-05-2008, 10:54 AM
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I don’t think it’s hard at all to have a NA TL-S that runs into the 13’s. base TL 6MT with intake is already in the 13’s as proven by types-09 , video on youtube. Then from C&D we all know the stock TL-S 6MT ran a 14.1s. From TOV, TL-S 6MT has 253whp stock. Many people over at the 3rd gen forum with TL-S 5AT claim that stock 5AT has about 240whp. Most of these people have minor mods and have close to 300whp. I would imagine the 6MT with those NA mods would hit the 300whp mark no problem.
F23A4, with your son’s exceptional driving skills, may be you could get him to drive a TL 6MT or TL-S 6MT on the track?
F23A4, with your son’s exceptional driving skills, may be you could get him to drive a TL 6MT or TL-S 6MT on the track?
08-05-2008, 01:43 PM
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I don’t think it’s hard at all to have a NA TL-S that runs into the 13’s. base TL 6MT with intake is already in the 13’s as proven by types-09 , video on youtube. Then from C&D we all know the stock TL-S 6MT ran a 14.1s. From TOV, TL-S 6MT has 253whp stock. Many people over at the 3rd gen forum with TL-S 5AT claim that stock 5AT has about 240whp. Most of these people have minor mods and have close to 300whp. I would imagine the 6MT with those NA mods would hit the 300whp mark no problem.
F23A4, with your son’s exceptional driving skills, may be you could get him to drive a TL 6MT or TL-S 6MT on the track?
F23A4, with your son’s exceptional driving skills, may be you could get him to drive a TL 6MT or TL-S 6MT on the track?
As I am mulling over trading my 07 AV6 for a leftover 08 TL-S 6MT, your wish may come true. Stay tuned.
Scary part with the Altima is that his 60' times are not that great.
08-05-2008, 02:33 PM
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Yeah G37 is a 330hp car but its a heavier car compared to the Type S. Its better to race them on a roll on since they are real wheel drive and they have better launch capability if you run them from 0mph.
BMW 335 ECU Reflash makes the car a whole different animal since its a twin turbo. From our point of view of naturally aspirated engines it was a good race between my Type S and the G37MT with CAI and drag radial tires.
Like I said anyone with a AT TL better have good mods like STILLHERE and dr_brains510 to consider a race like this. A 06 TL MT will also be a good match against cars like this with mods.
So far all I have is my CAI Jpipe and 3rd cat delete; imagine what it could be with exhaust, spacers, and heatshield gaskets, pulleys, etc.
BMW 335 ECU Reflash makes the car a whole different animal since its a twin turbo. From our point of view of naturally aspirated engines it was a good race between my Type S and the G37MT with CAI and drag radial tires.
Like I said anyone with a AT TL better have good mods like STILLHERE and dr_brains510 to consider a race like this. A 06 TL MT will also be a good match against cars like this with mods.
So far all I have is my CAI Jpipe and 3rd cat delete; imagine what it could be with exhaust, spacers, and heatshield gaskets, pulleys, etc.
08-05-2008, 03:47 PM
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my friend wit a 07 6spd altima sedan with a short ram and exhaust beat a 6spd tl-s with an intake....they was neck and neck until 120 and then he pulled about 1/2 car away
08-05-2008, 06:33 PM
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Yup, the G37 is way heavier than the Type-S 6MT.
G37 - 3800 lbs (est.)
Type-S 6MT - 3515 lbs
That's whopping 300 lbs difference.
Now you are talking.... 
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G37 - 3800 lbs (est.)
Type-S 6MT - 3515 lbs
That's whopping 300 lbs difference.
Originally Posted by F23A4
As I am mulling over trading my 07 AV6 for a leftover 08 TL-S 6MT, your wish may come true. Stay tuned.
Scary part with the Altima is that his 60' times are not that great.
Scary part with the Altima is that his 60' times are not that great.
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08-05-2008, 06:41 PM
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Until 120mph? man thats allready shifting for 5th gear bro...I like to stay till 4th gear...Anyways im trying to race it like if it was for a 1/4 mile run kinda deal...
120mph on the street is asking for trouble hehe but cool run.
And yeah the curb weight for the MT Type S is 3559...Still lighter than the g37...
I havent had the chance to take the car to the strip im curious about what times i can make.
Spacers and gaskets is the next mod...Still debating on the exhaust...between ATLP or Excelerate...So far Excelerate is my choice depending if they fix they're small problems.
120mph on the street is asking for trouble hehe but cool run.
And yeah the curb weight for the MT Type S is 3559...Still lighter than the g37...
I havent had the chance to take the car to the strip im curious about what times i can make.
Spacers and gaskets is the next mod...Still debating on the exhaust...between ATLP or Excelerate...So far Excelerate is my choice depending if they fix they're small problems.
08-05-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I don’t think it’s hard at all to have a NA TL-S that runs into the 13’s. base TL 6MT with intake is already in the 13’s as proven by types-09 , video on youtube. Then from C&D we all know the stock TL-S 6MT ran a 14.1s. From TOV, TL-S 6MT has 253whp stock. Many people over at the 3rd gen forum with TL-S 5AT claim that stock 5AT has about 240whp. Most of these people have minor mods and have close to 300whp. I would imagine the 6MT with those NA mods would hit the 300whp mark no problem.
F23A4, with your son’s exceptional driving skills, may be you could get him to drive a TL 6MT or TL-S 6MT on the track?
F23A4, with your son’s exceptional driving skills, may be you could get him to drive a TL 6MT or TL-S 6MT on the track?
A fully bolted TL-S 6MT could probably give a stock 335 a fight from a roll, but at the track, I think that same TL is going to get waxed in the first couple hundred feet and won't be able to make it back up. 300 ft lbs @ 1400 rpm and RWD make the 335 pretty stout down low. The automatic 335 has run 13.3 @105. 30HP worth of bolt ons won't shave 8/10ths off a TL's time; not even close. It'll certainly make traction even more of a problem though.
08-05-2008, 07:09 PM
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I'll take mine to the track in Sept/Oct: 6MT with full bolt ons except primary cat deletes. If it's not too packed and I can get in enough practice runs, I want to experiment with the 1-2 shift. I think the car's actually quicker if you short shift second at ~6200. I've got new Potenza 960's and the wheel hop isn't nearly as pronounced as it was with the shitty Turanzas.
08-05-2008, 07:30 PM
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Maybe I will take my at tl-s to the track next time and make a pass. Its hard to leave the evo at home on those track days. My prediction for my stock 08 tl-s auto at Cal speedway would be 14.8 at 94 with only some air pressure taking out. Hows my guess? Just a side not for those at cal speedway the last time I ran the evo I did 11.7 @ 118 on the stock turbo. 60' times in the evo are unbelievable personal best 1.57 on ra1's. My guess is the 60' in the auto tl-s would be around 2.2 to 2.3. I would also speculate that a 6 speed manual with slicks would run 14.3 with great redline shifting and a 60' time of 2.1.
Just my thoughts of track days. I rarely see 13's out of the v6 cars at the track (350z, maxima, altima, tl, g35, accords etc...) on occasion you will see a turbo rsx in the 13's. Most srt-4's stock are in the mid 14's with lite mods high 13's and a good handful in the 12's sometimes low 12's. Cobra's with the sc work the corvettes and vipers all day long, ford lightning trucks can get really fast, lets see what else have I noticed at the track in the last 5 years Most civics make alot of noise and run slow, evo's own the sti's, any car with enough money in it can be made very fast. Vw bugs can be slower then slow and some are faster then fast. Bullet bikes are all about the rider. m5's high 13's, m3 high 13's low 14's. S4 turbo's can be very fast or low 14's, GN fast to very fast. Just a few thoughts most guys make all kinds of excuses to why the got a slow time but the bottom line most cars at the track are not as fast as people think. Enough track talk. Just my .02.
Just my thoughts of track days. I rarely see 13's out of the v6 cars at the track (350z, maxima, altima, tl, g35, accords etc...) on occasion you will see a turbo rsx in the 13's. Most srt-4's stock are in the mid 14's with lite mods high 13's and a good handful in the 12's sometimes low 12's. Cobra's with the sc work the corvettes and vipers all day long, ford lightning trucks can get really fast, lets see what else have I noticed at the track in the last 5 years Most civics make alot of noise and run slow, evo's own the sti's, any car with enough money in it can be made very fast. Vw bugs can be slower then slow and some are faster then fast. Bullet bikes are all about the rider. m5's high 13's, m3 high 13's low 14's. S4 turbo's can be very fast or low 14's, GN fast to very fast. Just a few thoughts most guys make all kinds of excuses to why the got a slow time but the bottom line most cars at the track are not as fast as people think. Enough track talk. Just my .02.
08-05-2008, 11:28 PM
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F23A3, just trade in your AV6 and get the TL-S!! 
my bad anx1300c...I was at work while typing that post..lol..yea 273whp for the AT, and the guys there believe the MT would free up more power. Also blackura will get his precat deletes done soon and that's supposed free up more hp. He believes with the precat deletes he would dyno at over 280whp.
my bad anx1300c...I was at work while typing that post..lol..yea 273whp for the AT, and the guys there believe the MT would free up more power. Also blackura will get his precat deletes done soon and that's supposed free up more hp. He believes with the precat deletes he would dyno at over 280whp.
08-06-2008, 01:26 AM
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Hey guys...numbers from "Say When" are accurate according to my experience as well. Blackura has very impressive whp numbers but still its a AT Type S. Between AT and MT the diffrence is about 10whp. It is confirmed with my MT Type S 253 whp stock. When it comes to 1/4 strips a MT is by far a lot quicker. Blackura has more mods than me but the AT is heavier than MT and in top of that MT makes the car react a lot faster...
I made 264 at the wheels on a warm day...Put the same numbers for the AT and I still believe that my MT makes better runs and times...
With my new mods coming up i will be close to 280whp...But remember I am MT which it could take at least 290whp for a AT...
Anyways we are still the same team here...
We are here to see how to beat those 3.7L Infinitis and those slightly mod BMW335I
For a fact 350z and G35 bolt on mods with me...they have nothing to look for.
Honda technology is far above the comptetitors...
I made 264 at the wheels on a warm day...Put the same numbers for the AT and I still believe that my MT makes better runs and times...
With my new mods coming up i will be close to 280whp...But remember I am MT which it could take at least 290whp for a AT...
Anyways we are still the same team here...
We are here to see how to beat those 3.7L Infinitis and those slightly mod BMW335I
For a fact 350z and G35 bolt on mods with me...they have nothing to look for.
Honda technology is far above the comptetitors...
08-06-2008, 09:59 AM
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MT is going to better for racing because the driver if good can control the launch in our cars. The MT usually doesn't rob as much power as Auto does thus more Whp same cars. The Mt being a little lighter helps. Usually a good rule is every 100 lbs equals .1 in the 1/4. With 270 whp (dynojet) some slicks and a good launch ( my guess around a 2.0 60 ft time) you should easily see mid to high 13's with you car. Remember to take out the spare, jack, any extra weight. It makes the car get out of the hole faster but it is also easier on your drivetrain. Good luck on spanking those g's and 350's
08-06-2008, 11:17 AM
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Yeah man absolutely i always try to post whatever race or dynos i have done with the car and how is the progress going...
Im not putting slicks to the car since i have a stock differential i dont want to rip it apart yet hehe...But a good BF Drag radials will help for the launch...
When i get the gaskets exhaust and spacer thats when i will go to the racetrack...Im expecting those same numbers...
Around 13.8 at least
Im not putting slicks to the car since i have a stock differential i dont want to rip it apart yet hehe...But a good BF Drag radials will help for the launch...
When i get the gaskets exhaust and spacer thats when i will go to the racetrack...Im expecting those same numbers...
Around 13.8 at least
08-06-2008, 11:27 PM
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Well I kinda want to purchase all at once...So I am just waiting on some feedback regarding the Excelerate exhaust with their new adjustments...When I see positive feedback with pics, soundclips...etc i will take it from there...
So far the goal for me is to be the quickest TL bolt on for the 1/4 mile...It is achieveable with the MT
So far the goal for me is to be the quickest TL bolt on for the 1/4 mile...It is achieveable with the MT
08-07-2008, 10:31 AM
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It's great that you guys seem to have some friendly competition going on at the 3rd gen forum
N/A you might also want to beat the CL guys as some of the NA CL’s are running 13.3-13.4 already.
N/A you might also want to beat the CL guys as some of the NA CL’s are running 13.3-13.4 already.
08-07-2008, 05:18 PM
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per a few car mags i have read and some internet research these are the stats
07 type s mt 0-60 5.5 auto 0-60 5.9
is350 lexus 0-60 5.0
g37s mt 0-60 5.3
335i 4 door 0-60 5.0
335i coupe 0-60 4.8
07 type s mt 0-60 5.5 auto 0-60 5.9
is350 lexus 0-60 5.0
g37s mt 0-60 5.3
335i 4 door 0-60 5.0
335i coupe 0-60 4.8
08-07-2008, 06:29 PM
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per a few car mags i have read and some internet research these are the stats
07 type s mt 0-60 5.5 auto 0-60 5.9
is350 lexus 0-60 5.0
g37s mt 0-60 5.3
335i 4 door 0-60 5.0
335i coupe 0-60 4.8
07 type s mt 0-60 5.5 auto 0-60 5.9
is350 lexus 0-60 5.0
g37s mt 0-60 5.3
335i 4 door 0-60 5.0
335i coupe 0-60 4.8
08-09-2008, 11:53 PM
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I have to agree magazine times are to an extent hmmm sketchy...StillHere has a great machine...With more mods implying in slightly more WHP than my car...I still believe my MT makes better times specially the fact that MT's are lighter
11-03-2008, 12:57 PM
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