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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:40 AM
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^^^ and that might be the point of failure....it might have not been installed correctly...

all they are saying is spend $200 on diagnoses @ a reputed shop than spending thousands in your engine replacement....
I will thank you!
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Old May 17, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Why were the head gaskets changed? If you dont mind me asking how much did they charge to do it? And did they reuse head bolts?
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Old May 17, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Comptechtl2367
Why were the head gaskets changed? If you dont mind me asking how much did they charge to do it? And did they reuse head bolts?
I changed the head gasket cause my car is misfiring, and that's what the macanhic told me would fix the problem. And no they didn'treuse tthe head studs they put new ones in.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Ok so I have changes my engine, I put the same 3.2 out of an 05 standard TL, but I'm having some problems 1.my break lights stopped working
2. the VSA light stays on
3. vtec doesn't work.
the shop that did the work doesn't want to fix these problems. can anyone help me please?
I'm so fed up with shops messing with my car.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Ok so I have changes my engine, I put the same 3.2 out of an 05 standard TL, but I'm having some problems 1.my break lights stopped working
2. the VSA light stays on
3. vtec doesn't work.
the shop that did the work doesn't want to fix these problems. can anyone help me please?
I'm so fed up with shops messing with my car.
1 and 2 maybe related from what I dug up.

https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-problems-fixes-128/vsa-light-stays-673741/

The other day I hit my lock button twice to ensure the alarm was set and the horn did not sound. I then tried the horn itself and it did'nt work either. I wondered if the two problems were related ???? I then checked the horn fuse and found it blown and that it also protected the stoplight circuit. Tested and found a "dead-short " in the circuit and traced it back to the wiring connection in trunk for the dealer installed rear spoiler. The wire connections had been stuffed into the trunck mount arm and they must have got caught on the trunk lining/ trim and ripped the insulating tape from the connections leaving the bare wires to touch together causing the short.
I then fixed the connections, redressed the wires, replaced the 20 A fuse and everything now works and VSA ! light is out.
So I've been driving for almost a week without brake lights. The owners manual does'nt even mention that when the VSA ! light comes on that it could be brake light related.

3. I am not sure on the VTEC issue but if our TLs carry a VSS (vehicle speed sensor) and if your car loses its speed reference, VTEC will not engage and the ECU will see it just as if you were sitting still reving the engine; thus no VTEC.

Maybe someone else with better expertise can answer it for you.

Honestly I would have gotten that shop to fix every little issue there is or we will handle this in court.

Good luck to you.

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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Go run your mouth somewhere else.
You need to take a few deep breaths and relax. I read your post and I thought exactly the same thing when you said you replaced your gaskets.

First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.

Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
I changed the head gasket cause my car is misfiring, and that's what the macanhic told me would fix the problem. And no they didn'treuse tthe head studs they put new ones in.
The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...

Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?

Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related

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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:09 PM
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Your Right!!!

thank you so much, I did what you said and it was the horn fuse that was blown.

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
You need to take a few deep breaths and relax. I read your post and I thought exactly the same thing when you said you replaced your gaskets.
Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai

First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.



The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...

Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?

Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
You need to take a few deep breaths and relax. I read your post and I thought exactly the same thing when you said you replaced your gaskets.

First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.



The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...

Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?

Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
Just an FYI, a blown head gasket can leak only combustion either to the inside, outside, or between cylinders with no water or oil contamination. I've experienced each of those scenarios.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:50 PM
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Thank you so much, the VSA light is gone and my break lights work. I owe you!!! The shop was suppose to fix everything when they changed the engine. but as usual shops love to do half ass jobs on my car even Acura screwed up my car
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1 and 2 maybe related from what I dug up.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673741

The other day I hit my lock button twice to ensure the alarm was set and the horn did not sound. I then tried the horn itself and it did'nt work either. I wondered if the two problems were related ???? I then checked the horn fuse and found it blown and that it also protected the stoplight circuit. Tested and found a "dead-short " in the circuit and traced it back to the wiring connection in trunk for the dealer installed rear spoiler. The wire connections had been stuffed into the trunck mount arm and they must have got caught on the trunk lining/ trim and ripped the insulating tape from the connections leaving the bare wires to touch together causing the short.
I then fixed the connections, redressed the wires, replaced the 20 A fuse and everything now works and VSA ! light is out.
So I've been driving for almost a week without brake lights. The owners manual does'nt even mention that when the VSA ! light comes on that it could be brake light related.

3. I am not sure on the VTEC issue but if our TLs carry a VSS (vehicle speed sensor) and if your car loses its speed reference, VTEC will not engage and the ECU will see it just as if you were sitting still reving the engine; thus no VTEC.

Maybe someone else with better expertise can answer it for you.

Honestly I would have gotten that shop to fix every little issue there is or we will handle this in court.

Good luck to you.

Last edited by obsessedmotors; Jun 28, 2013 at 12:02 AM. Reason: posted in wrong comment box
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
You need to take a few deep breaths and relax. I read your post and I thought exactly the same thing when you said you replaced your gaskets.

First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.

The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...

Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?

Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
thank you so much, I did what you said and it was the horn fuse that was blown.


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WTF he didn't mention any horn fuse..............LOL I did but whatever glad it is working now.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:59 PM
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lol... sorry, I commented in the wrong box.... Thank you soo much, VSA light is gone and my break lights work, thanks to you. I owe you!!
Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
The shop was suppose to fix everything when they changed the engine. but as usual shops love to do half ass jobs on my car even Acura screwed up my car.
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 12:02 AM
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^ No problem

Now it seems like its just your VTEC that is left to fix; unless if issue 1 and 2 also was tied to 3?

Test it out and see............but I could be wrong???
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 12:17 AM
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I wish VTEC was the only thing left to fix...
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^ No problem

Now it seems like its just your VTEC that is left to fix?

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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 12:19 AM
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What else is wrong?
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 01:19 AM
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Just an FYI, a blown head gasket can leak only combustion either to the inside, outside, or between cylinders with no water or oil contamination. I've experienced each of those scenarios.
I did not believe that was possible on the TL, I have heard of it on other cars though..you know ones with cast iron heads and aluminum blocks...
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilVirus
What else is wrong?
the shop that installed my system in my car cut all the wires that connect to the factory amp. he also cut a while bunch of wires under the dash. haven't had sound in my car for about 2 years now cause of him.
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
I did not believe that was possible on the TL, I have heard of it on other cars though..you know ones with cast iron heads and aluminum blocks...
I was a little misleading, trying to type too fast without paying attention. On our open deck designs its much less likely. You can have cylinder to cylinder combustion leaking but nothing is getting out of the deck area. You can have combustion into the coolant but no coolant in the cylinder, at least in the early stages.
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