'04-'05 engine vs '04-'08 engine?
I changed the head gasket cause my car is misfiring, and that's what the macanhic told me would fix the problem. And no they didn'treuse tthe head studs they put new ones in.
Ok so I have changes my engine, I put the same 3.2 out of an 05 standard TL, but I'm having some problems 1.my break lights stopped working
2. the VSA light stays on
3. vtec doesn't work.
the shop that did the work doesn't want to fix these problems. can anyone help me please?
I'm so fed up with shops messing with my car.
2. the VSA light stays on
3. vtec doesn't work.
the shop that did the work doesn't want to fix these problems. can anyone help me please?
I'm so fed up with shops messing with my car.
Ok so I have changes my engine, I put the same 3.2 out of an 05 standard TL, but I'm having some problems 1.my break lights stopped working
2. the VSA light stays on
3. vtec doesn't work.
the shop that did the work doesn't want to fix these problems. can anyone help me please?
I'm so fed up with shops messing with my car.
2. the VSA light stays on
3. vtec doesn't work.
the shop that did the work doesn't want to fix these problems. can anyone help me please?
I'm so fed up with shops messing with my car.
https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-problems-fixes-128/vsa-light-stays-673741/
The other day I hit my lock button twice to ensure the alarm was set and the horn did not sound. I then tried the horn itself and it did'nt work either. I wondered if the two problems were related ???? I then checked the horn fuse and found it blown and that it also protected the stoplight circuit. Tested and found a "dead-short " in the circuit and traced it back to the wiring connection in trunk for the dealer installed rear spoiler. The wire connections had been stuffed into the trunck mount arm and they must have got caught on the trunk lining/ trim and ripped the insulating tape from the connections leaving the bare wires to touch together causing the short.
I then fixed the connections, redressed the wires, replaced the 20 A fuse and everything now works and VSA ! light is out.
So I've been driving for almost a week without brake lights. The owners manual does'nt even mention that when the VSA ! light comes on that it could be brake light related.
3. I am not sure on the VTEC issue but if our TLs carry a VSS (vehicle speed sensor) and if your car loses its speed reference, VTEC will not engage and the ECU will see it just as if you were sitting still reving the engine; thus no VTEC.
Maybe someone else with better expertise can answer it for you.
Honestly I would have gotten that shop to fix every little issue there is or we will handle this in court.
Good luck to you.
Last edited by EvilVirus; Jun 27, 2013 at 10:08 PM.
You need to take a few deep breaths and relax. I read your post and I thought exactly the same thing when you said you replaced your gaskets.
First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.
The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...
Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?
Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.
Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?
Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
Last edited by YeuEmMaiMai; Jun 27, 2013 at 10:47 PM.
Your Right!!!
thank you so much, I did what you said and it was the horn fuse that was blown. 


First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.
The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...
Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?
Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.
The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...
Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?
Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
You need to take a few deep breaths and relax. I read your post and I thought exactly the same thing when you said you replaced your gaskets.
First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.
The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...
Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?
Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.
The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...
Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?
Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
Thank you so much, the VSA light is gone and my break lights work. I owe you!!! The shop was suppose to fix everything when they changed the engine. but as usual shops love to do half ass jobs on my car even Acura screwed up my car

1 and 2 maybe related from what I dug up.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673741
The other day I hit my lock button twice to ensure the alarm was set and the horn did not sound. I then tried the horn itself and it did'nt work either. I wondered if the two problems were related ???? I then checked the horn fuse and found it blown and that it also protected the stoplight circuit. Tested and found a "dead-short " in the circuit and traced it back to the wiring connection in trunk for the dealer installed rear spoiler. The wire connections had been stuffed into the trunck mount arm and they must have got caught on the trunk lining/ trim and ripped the insulating tape from the connections leaving the bare wires to touch together causing the short.
I then fixed the connections, redressed the wires, replaced the 20 A fuse and everything now works and VSA ! light is out.
So I've been driving for almost a week without brake lights. The owners manual does'nt even mention that when the VSA ! light comes on that it could be brake light related.
3. I am not sure on the VTEC issue but if our TLs carry a VSS (vehicle speed sensor) and if your car loses its speed reference, VTEC will not engage and the ECU will see it just as if you were sitting still reving the engine; thus no VTEC.
Maybe someone else with better expertise can answer it for you.
Honestly I would have gotten that shop to fix every little issue there is or we will handle this in court.
Good luck to you.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673741
The other day I hit my lock button twice to ensure the alarm was set and the horn did not sound. I then tried the horn itself and it did'nt work either. I wondered if the two problems were related ???? I then checked the horn fuse and found it blown and that it also protected the stoplight circuit. Tested and found a "dead-short " in the circuit and traced it back to the wiring connection in trunk for the dealer installed rear spoiler. The wire connections had been stuffed into the trunck mount arm and they must have got caught on the trunk lining/ trim and ripped the insulating tape from the connections leaving the bare wires to touch together causing the short.
I then fixed the connections, redressed the wires, replaced the 20 A fuse and everything now works and VSA ! light is out.
So I've been driving for almost a week without brake lights. The owners manual does'nt even mention that when the VSA ! light comes on that it could be brake light related.
3. I am not sure on the VTEC issue but if our TLs carry a VSS (vehicle speed sensor) and if your car loses its speed reference, VTEC will not engage and the ECU will see it just as if you were sitting still reving the engine; thus no VTEC.
Maybe someone else with better expertise can answer it for you.
Honestly I would have gotten that shop to fix every little issue there is or we will handle this in court.
Good luck to you.
Last edited by obsessedmotors; Jun 28, 2013 at 12:02 AM. Reason: posted in wrong comment box
You need to take a few deep breaths and relax. I read your post and I thought exactly the same thing when you said you replaced your gaskets.
First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.
The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...
Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?
Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
First off if you are getting intermittent shutdowns you need to open the hood, remove all of the plastic engine covers and verify that all of your grounds and battery terminals are clean and securely fastened. Also check to see if you have any loose connections to any sensors that may have been unplugged when they worked on your car.
The only time you would put a new head gasket in is if your car is burning coolant, leaking it into the oil, leaking oil into the coolant. or coolant is leaking out betwen the head and block...
Did you have mis fire codes? Did you do any compression testing? did you see the plugs fouled with coolant?
Misfire can be coil pack, fuel injector, or leaking intake gasket related
lol... sorry, I commented in the wrong box.... Thank you soo much, VSA light is gone and my break lights work, thanks to you. I owe you!! 
I did not believe that was possible on the TL, I have heard of it on other cars though..you know ones with cast iron heads and aluminum blocks...
I was a little misleading, trying to type too fast without paying attention. On our open deck designs its much less likely. You can have cylinder to cylinder combustion leaking but nothing is getting out of the deck area. You can have combustion into the coolant but no coolant in the cylinder, at least in the early stages.
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