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Old 04-22-2013, 03:56 AM
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I was wondering which engine is better 04-05 or 06-08? Cause I need to change my engine, but not sure which year engine to get, please help!!
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They are the same. Older will be cheaper.
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any back story to why you need a new engine?

and gatr is spot on. the 3.2 motor is the same.
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Actually the 04-06 and 07-08 appear to be the same, naturally excluding the 3.5 TLS. Also, the engine interchange indicates the same.

If an engine is needed, I'd look for one with the lowest mileage as there's an '05 with 12,000 miles and '06 22,000 miles.
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doesn't 07-08 3.2 have lighter intake manifold?
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^I dont think we're looking for minute differences.
we're looking for a 3.2 that will bolt right up to his chassis
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What's the story with your current engine? And like everyone else, im pretty sure they remained unchanged for the most part from 04-08
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But just curious what are the differences between 04-06 and 07-08? Is the IM really lighter? If so, why other differences?
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Originally Posted by justnspace
any back story to why you need a new engine?

and gatr is spot on. the 3.2 motor is the same.
I need a new engine because all the shops I've been too including Acura, messed up my engine.
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I need a new engine because all the shops I've been too including Acura, messed up my engine.
you're going to have to do better than that.

what happened to the engine?
how many shops?
what the heck is wrong with your engine?
the more details you provide the better the answers you will get.
maybe we can salvage your engine and tell you what you need to get it running again, or at least tell you the cost difference so that you can weigh your options.

DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS
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Someone was telling me that the 06-08 engine is ported or something like that, and if I use an 06-08 engine with my 05 computer it's suppose to be faster. But then when I was doing research on my 05 Aspec, it was saying that the 04 and 05 engine pushes 279 stock while the 06-08 pushes 253.so I'm confused.
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Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Someone was telling me that the 06-08 engine is ported or something like that, and if I use an 06-08 engine with my 05 computer it's suppose to be faster. But then when I was doing research on my 05 Aspec, it was saying that the 04 and 05 engine pushes 279 stock while the 06-08 pushes 253.so I'm confused.
IN ORDER FOR US TO HELP YOU, YOU NEED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION REGARDING YOUR ENGINE THAT YOU SAY IS FUBAR'D.

WITHOUT THIS INFORMATION; WE SIMPLY CANT SUGGEST ANYTHING.
PLEASE PLEASE TELL US WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ENGINE. a
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Well first off my engine has 250k on it, but before I hit that my car shuts off (while in motion) whenever it feels, every once in awhile the VSA will come on(while in motion).

I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs

Originally Posted by justnspace
you're going to have to do better than that.

what happened to the engine?
how many shops?
what the heck is wrong with your engine?
the more details you provide the better the answers you will get.
maybe we can salvage your engine and tell you what you need to get it running again, or at least tell you the cost difference so that you can weigh your options.

DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS

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If its cheaper for you to replace the entire motor then you can but putting in a motor from a different year is going to be hard to do... Also diagnosing the real issue is going to be important or else the same mistakes could be repeated. The engine shutting off in motion sounds like an electrical issue more than an issue with the motor... Just my
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Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Someone was telling me that the 06-08 engine is ported or something like that, and if I use an 06-08 engine with my 05 computer it's suppose to be faster. But then when I was doing research on my 05 Aspec, it was saying that the 04 and 05 engine pushes 279 stock while the 06-08 pushes 253.so I'm confused.
1. Whoever told you that........slap him.
2. What you have read was the SAE (the way they measure hp/tq). It is powered by a 270 hp (201 kW); later revised to 258 hp (192 kW), based on the new SAE measurement standard for horsepower and 233 lb·ft (316 N·m) of torque, 3.2 L 24 valve SOHC VTEC V6 mated to either a 5-speed auto with SportShift or 6-speed manual



Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Well first off my engine has 250k on it, but before I hit that my car shuts off (while in motion) whenever it feels, every once in awhile the VSA will come on(while in motion).

I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs
I would have gotten the shop to either fix that wasnt broken or reimburst me and I will take it to a shop that can do a great and honest job.

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The problems you mentioned have nothing to do with the engine and will still be there after replacement. The compression I wouldn't worry about, with the level of help you've had, its probably not accurate anyway. These engines will last a very long time but if you just want a new one I suggest troubleshooting the problems before you install the new engine.
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Just a note, the 07-08 (both base and Type-S) models use a different ECU than the 04-06.

I'm not sure if an 07-08 engine would work correctly with an 04-06 engine or not.
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^Actually the ECU's are different throughout the years, at least the part numbers are:

04 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A57 (M/T) A07
05 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A62 (M/T) A12
06 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A73 (M/T) A24
07 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A84
08 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A84
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07 (A/T) 37820-RDB-A55 (M/T) A04
08 (A/T) 37820-RDB-A62 (M/T) A12
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You replaced the gaskets yourself, lost compression and blame someone else.

Sounds like you bought an 04 TL with 250k miles on it for $4,000 and expected it to run like an 08 with 45k miles on it.

You ruined your car, not a mechanic
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You replaced the gaskets yourself, lost compression and blame someone else.

Sounds like you bought an 04 TL with 250k miles on it for $4,000 and expected it to run like an 08 with 45k miles on it.

You ruined your car, not a mechanic
Are you ok? When did I say I replaced the gaskets myself?? Get your facts Stright before you comment. Run up
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Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Someone was telling me that the 06-08 engine is ported or something like that, and if I use an 06-08 engine with my 05 computer it's suppose to be faster. But then when I was doing research on my 05 Aspec, it was saying that the 04 and 05 engine pushes 279 stock while the 06-08 pushes 253.so I'm confused.
This "someone" is an imbecile. They're all 258 bhp/233 tq. Your car won't be any faster with a later engine.
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Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Well first off my engine has 250k on it, but before I hit that my car shuts off (while in motion) whenever it feels, every once in awhile the VSA will come on(while in motion).

I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs
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You replaced the gaskets yourself, lost compression and blame someone else.
Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Are you ok? When did I say I replaced the gaskets myself?? Get your facts Stright before you comment. Run up
Ta da! Just thought I would add a needless clarification post...
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I fully understand why you want to replace your engine but you need to look into the issues more before you throw an engine at it. It is not an engine issue.

Thank being said, any 3.2L from 04-08 will fit your car.
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Ta da! Just thought I would add a needless clarification post...
Go run your mouth somewhere else.
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someone is cranky
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someone is cranky
No one is cranky, it's principle, I opened this form to get information, not to have stupid people who have pure time on their hands to be writing stupidness. Common sense
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Originally Posted by connork53
You replaced the gaskets yourself, lost compression and blame someone else.

Sounds like you bought an 04 TL with 250k miles on it for $4,000 and expected it to run like an 08 with 45k miles on it.

You ruined your car, not a mechanic
THIS ISNT A PLAY GROUND, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO PLAY ASK YOUR MOMMY OR DADDY TO TAKE YOU TO THE PARK SO YOU CAN PLAY. GROW UP
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Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
Are you ok? When did I say I replaced the gaskets myself?? Get your facts Stright before you comment. Run up
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You have low compression on one cylinder and you want to replace the whole engine

btw.. to all you geeks.. heads are different between the years as well as the trans.

Lest we forget the J35.
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Lets deal with one issue at a time. Forget about the engine replacement and potential low compression. Focus on figuring out why the car stalls sometimes. It's not due to low compression and its very likely an electrical problem.

If you had a weak enough cylinder to cause drivability issues the first thing you would notice is a misfire at idle. This would give it a very rough idle.
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Obseesedmotors, if you are going to replace the engine (since your mind is pretty much set on it); for many reasons, replace it with the same year.
However, I would advise you to actually take it to a different tech and have it diagnose properly. You stated that the tech ruin your power steering and didnt place all the gaskets; thats a red flag on them. Like IHC stated, figure out why is it stalling on you? What happens when its about to stall?

Glad you got a thick skin lol............Good luck hope you get this resolve.
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
Lets deal with one issue at a time. Forget about the engine replacement and potential low compression. Focus on figuring out why the car stalls sometimes. It's not due to low compression and its very likely an electrical problem.

If you had a weak enough cylinder to cause drivability issues the first thing you would notice is a misfire at idle. This would give it a very rough idle.
That's what I've been experiencing.
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Originally Posted by obsessedmotors
That's what I've been experiencing.
Then it sounds like you have your answer, replace the engine. But before you drop the money spend 200 on having the engine diag by a good mech. It sounds like you dont have the know how yourself so 200 will be way less then the couple grand it will cost to replace the whole thing.
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Originally Posted by Comptechtl2367
Then it sounds like you have your answer, replace the engine. But before you drop the money spend 200 on having the engine diag by a good mech. It sounds like you dont have the know how yourself so 200 will be way less then the couple grand it will cost to replace the whole thing.
Thank you so much, I will get a diagnosis done
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You're basically going to make sure it's not a valve or headgasket causing the low compression. Once that's confirmed, a new engine may be in order. Hopefully it's a head gasket.
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You're basically going to make sure it's not a valve or headgasket causing the low compression. Once that's confirmed, a new engine may be in order. Hopefully it's a head gasket.
The headgasket have been charged already.
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^^^ and that might be the point of failure....it might have not been installed correctly...

all they are saying is spend $200 on diagnoses @ a reputed shop than spending thousands in your engine replacement....
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