'04-'05 engine vs '04-'08 engine?
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'04-'05 engine vs '04-'08 engine?
I was wondering which engine is better 04-05 or 06-08? Cause I need to change my engine, but not sure which year engine to get, please help!!
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doesn't 07-08 3.2 have lighter intake manifold?
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what happened to the engine?
how many shops?
what the heck is wrong with your engine?
the more details you provide the better the answers you will get.
maybe we can salvage your engine and tell you what you need to get it running again, or at least tell you the cost difference so that you can weigh your options.
DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS
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Someone was telling me that the 06-08 engine is ported or something like that, and if I use an 06-08 engine with my 05 computer it's suppose to be faster. But then when I was doing research on my 05 Aspec, it was saying that the 04 and 05 engine pushes 279 stock while the 06-08 pushes 253.so I'm confused.
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Someone was telling me that the 06-08 engine is ported or something like that, and if I use an 06-08 engine with my 05 computer it's suppose to be faster. But then when I was doing research on my 05 Aspec, it was saying that the 04 and 05 engine pushes 279 stock while the 06-08 pushes 253.so I'm confused.
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PLEASE PLEASE TELL US WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ENGINE. a
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Well first off my engine has 250k on it, but before I hit that my car shuts off (while in motion) whenever it feels, every once in awhile the VSA will come on(while in motion).
I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs
I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs
you're going to have to do better than that.
what happened to the engine?
how many shops?
what the heck is wrong with your engine?
the more details you provide the better the answers you will get.
maybe we can salvage your engine and tell you what you need to get it running again, or at least tell you the cost difference so that you can weigh your options.
DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS
what happened to the engine?
how many shops?
what the heck is wrong with your engine?
the more details you provide the better the answers you will get.
maybe we can salvage your engine and tell you what you need to get it running again, or at least tell you the cost difference so that you can weigh your options.
DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS
Last edited by obsessedmotors; 04-23-2013 at 11:58 AM.
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If its cheaper for you to replace the entire motor then you can but putting in a motor from a different year is going to be hard to do... Also diagnosing the real issue is going to be important or else the same mistakes could be repeated. The engine shutting off in motion sounds like an electrical issue more than an issue with the motor... Just my
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Someone was telling me that the 06-08 engine is ported or something like that, and if I use an 06-08 engine with my 05 computer it's suppose to be faster. But then when I was doing research on my 05 Aspec, it was saying that the 04 and 05 engine pushes 279 stock while the 06-08 pushes 253.so I'm confused.
2. What you have read was the SAE (the way they measure hp/tq). It is powered by a 270 hp (201 kW); later revised to 258 hp (192 kW), based on the new SAE measurement standard for horsepower and 233 lb·ft (316 N·m) of torque, 3.2 L 24 valve SOHC VTEC V6 mated to either a 5-speed auto with SportShift or 6-speed manual
Well first off my engine has 250k on it, but before I hit that my car shuts off (while in motion) whenever it feels, every once in awhile the VSA will come on(while in motion).
I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs
I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs
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The problems you mentioned have nothing to do with the engine and will still be there after replacement. The compression I wouldn't worry about, with the level of help you've had, its probably not accurate anyway. These engines will last a very long time but if you just want a new one I suggest troubleshooting the problems before you install the new engine.
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Just a note, the 07-08 (both base and Type-S) models use a different ECU than the 04-06.
I'm not sure if an 07-08 engine would work correctly with an 04-06 engine or not.
I'm not sure if an 07-08 engine would work correctly with an 04-06 engine or not.
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^Actually the ECU's are different throughout the years, at least the part numbers are:
04 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A57 (M/T) A07
05 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A62 (M/T) A12
06 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A73 (M/T) A24
07 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A84
08 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A84
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07 (A/T) 37820-RDB-A55 (M/T) A04
08 (A/T) 37820-RDB-A62 (M/T) A12
04 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A57 (M/T) A07
05 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A62 (M/T) A12
06 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A73 (M/T) A24
07 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A84
08 (A/T) 37820-RDA-A84
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07 (A/T) 37820-RDB-A55 (M/T) A04
08 (A/T) 37820-RDB-A62 (M/T) A12
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Are you ok? When did I say I replaced the gaskets myself?? Get your facts Stright before you comment. Run up
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Someone was telling me that the 06-08 engine is ported or something like that, and if I use an 06-08 engine with my 05 computer it's suppose to be faster. But then when I was doing research on my 05 Aspec, it was saying that the 04 and 05 engine pushes 279 stock while the 06-08 pushes 253.so I'm confused.
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Well first off my engine has 250k on it, but before I hit that my car shuts off (while in motion) whenever it feels, every once in awhile the VSA will come on(while in motion).
I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs
I changed all the gaskets, well I got all the gaskets from dealer. The macanhic didn't install most of my parts, they also messed up my power steering. A compression test was done cylinder 3 -175. Everyone cylinder - 250. So I just want a new engine the car still runs
#24
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I fully understand why you want to replace your engine but you need to look into the issues more before you throw an engine at it. It is not an engine issue.
Thank being said, any 3.2L from 04-08 will fit your car.
Thank being said, any 3.2L from 04-08 will fit your car.
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someone is cranky
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THIS ISNT A PLAY GROUND, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO PLAY ASK YOUR MOMMY OR DADDY TO TAKE YOU TO THE PARK SO YOU CAN PLAY. GROW UP
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You have low compression on one cylinder and you want to replace the whole engine
btw.. to all you geeks.. heads are different between the years as well as the trans.
Lest we forget the J35.
btw.. to all you geeks.. heads are different between the years as well as the trans.
Lest we forget the J35.
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Lets deal with one issue at a time. Forget about the engine replacement and potential low compression. Focus on figuring out why the car stalls sometimes. It's not due to low compression and its very likely an electrical problem.
If you had a weak enough cylinder to cause drivability issues the first thing you would notice is a misfire at idle. This would give it a very rough idle.
If you had a weak enough cylinder to cause drivability issues the first thing you would notice is a misfire at idle. This would give it a very rough idle.
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Obseesedmotors, if you are going to replace the engine (since your mind is pretty much set on it); for many reasons, replace it with the same year.
However, I would advise you to actually take it to a different tech and have it diagnose properly. You stated that the tech ruin your power steering and didnt place all the gaskets; thats a red flag on them. Like IHC stated, figure out why is it stalling on you? What happens when its about to stall?
Glad you got a thick skin lol............Good luck hope you get this resolve.
However, I would advise you to actually take it to a different tech and have it diagnose properly. You stated that the tech ruin your power steering and didnt place all the gaskets; thats a red flag on them. Like IHC stated, figure out why is it stalling on you? What happens when its about to stall?
Glad you got a thick skin lol............Good luck hope you get this resolve.
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Lets deal with one issue at a time. Forget about the engine replacement and potential low compression. Focus on figuring out why the car stalls sometimes. It's not due to low compression and its very likely an electrical problem.
If you had a weak enough cylinder to cause drivability issues the first thing you would notice is a misfire at idle. This would give it a very rough idle.
If you had a weak enough cylinder to cause drivability issues the first thing you would notice is a misfire at idle. This would give it a very rough idle.
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Then it sounds like you have your answer, replace the engine. But before you drop the money spend 200 on having the engine diag by a good mech. It sounds like you dont have the know how yourself so 200 will be way less then the couple grand it will cost to replace the whole thing.
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Then it sounds like you have your answer, replace the engine. But before you drop the money spend 200 on having the engine diag by a good mech. It sounds like you dont have the know how yourself so 200 will be way less then the couple grand it will cost to replace the whole thing.
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You're basically going to make sure it's not a valve or headgasket causing the low compression. Once that's confirmed, a new engine may be in order. Hopefully it's a head gasket.
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^^^ and that might be the point of failure....it might have not been installed correctly...
all they are saying is spend $200 on diagnoses @ a reputed shop than spending thousands in your engine replacement....
all they are saying is spend $200 on diagnoses @ a reputed shop than spending thousands in your engine replacement....
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