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Old 05-22-2006, 12:50 PM
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02 TL-S vs 06 RSX-S

I have a 02 TL-S 5AT with 79K (short ram intake) and I raced my brother with his new 06 RSX-S 6-speed 2K (bone stock) from a 25-105mph roll and he had me by a fender. Anyone else ever raced a RSX-S?
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I think they are a lil faster than ours up top. I personally have never officially raced one yet but I have played w/ one before and although I was keeping up with him pretty good, something tells me he wasn't pushing it all the way. He would sometimes pull on me and then i would realize he's trying to get away and then i would have to floor it and then that would take some time..but by the time i floored it, he would stop accelerating.
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i raced a rsx-s on the highway 60 and up i was ahead and im bone stock
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on a 60-120mph the tls will eat it !!
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Originally Posted by 02_TL_Type_S
I have a 02 TL-S 5AT with 79K (short ram intake) and I raced my brother with his new 06 RSX-S 6-speed 2K (bone stock) from a 25-105mph roll and he had me by a fender. Anyone else ever raced a RSX-S?
That RSX's engine will really open up after 10,000 miles or so. Try racing in a year and let us know how it goes
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I ran one on Rt 1 (NJ) about a year ago in my 02 Maxima 4AT. I had about 1 1/2 car legnth on him at ~ 1/4 mile. Caveat: he lost a little traction off the line and I pretty much mastered launching my torque steer happy Maxima.

That said, I have driven the RSX-S and they are terrific cars and my personal favorite sub-compact (although the new Si is starting to grow on me, given its superior value compared with the RSX-S).
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The 05-06 models have the Type R gear ratios + "cams." They are quicker than the 02-04 model RSX-S on the highway and on the top end. IMO, the TL-S should beat the RSX-S out from 25-110, but after that, the RSX-S will pull away.

BTW, race header and intake will make 05-06 RSX-S's easy Low 14 sec cars. Add hondata....you're in the 13s. They are VERY fun cars to drive, handle incredibly well, but have a bone jarring ride (at least the 05s do ).
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I ran one on Rt 1 (NJ) about a year ago in my 02 Maxima 4AT. I had about 1 1/2 car legnth on him at ~ 1/4 mile. Caveat: he lost a little traction off the line and I pretty much mastered launching my torque steer happy Maxima.

That said, I have driven the RSX-S and they are terrific cars and my personal favorite sub-compact (although the new Si is starting to grow on me, given its superior value compared with the RSX-S).
I think that the 02 Maxima Vs. RSX-S is purely a driver's race. I one time had an encounter with one in my bro's car (04 rsx-s) and suprisingly enough, I got the jump and was holding my lead while he was behind me lining up to my rear bumper.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I ran one on Rt 1 (NJ) about a year ago in my 02 Maxima 4AT. I had about 1 1/2 car legnth on him at ~ 1/4 mile. Caveat: he lost a little traction off the line and I pretty much mastered launching my torque steer happy Maxima.

That said, I have driven the RSX-S and they are terrific cars and my personal favorite sub-compact (although the new Si is starting to grow on me, given its superior value compared with the RSX-S).
I think that the 02 Maxima Vs. RSX-S is purely a driver's race. I one time had an encounter with one in my bro's car (04 rsx-s) stock form and suprisingly enough, I got the jump and was holding my lead while he was behind me lining up to my rear bumper until i shut it off at 60mph(ish)...and even by that time i was pulling slowly away from him .
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Originally Posted by 02_TL_Type_S
I have a 02 TL-S 5AT with 79K (short ram intake) and I raced my brother with his new 06 RSX-S 6-speed 2K (bone stock) from a 25-105mph roll and he had me by a fender. Anyone else ever raced a RSX-S?
Did he pull in any specific gear? I was able to race my co-workers 04 RSX-S (fujistubu cat-back, kpro, 50k miles on the odo) and he pulled on me during 2nd gear every single time. The darned TSX 2nd gear is too tall compared to the RSX-S tranny where he's able to stay in vtec. He gets me be by about 1 full car length before hitting 80mph.
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A tsx is not as fast as a tls..
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Originally Posted by MrAlex
A tsx is not as fast as a tls..
Thanks for that 'new' piece of information. I always thought that mid 15s vs. mid 14s for the tls meant they were the same.....

Seriously -- I wanted to see if it was the RSX's 2nd gear that gave the advantage.
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Although 2nd gear for the RSX accelerates quite fast, once the person shifts to 3rd while in vtec, the acceleration is even faster...and that is where most of them pull on cars--->3rd gear +5k rpm.
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From a dig, I pulled 3-4 lengths on one to around 80. But i'm not stock. He did have an exhaust though, and maybe an intake (since people who have exhausts normally have intakes)
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Originally Posted by reloaded
I think that the 02 Maxima Vs. RSX-S is purely a driver's race. I one time had an encounter with one in my bro's car (04 rsx-s) stock form and suprisingly enough, I got the jump and was holding my lead while he was behind me lining up to my rear bumper until i shut it off at 60mph(ish)...and even by that time i was pulling slowly away from him .
....provided the Maxima (like mine) is a 4AT. 6MT vs 6MT with equally proficient drivers, the Maxima should win each time.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
....provided the Maxima (like mine) is a 4AT. 6MT vs 6MT with equally proficient drivers, the Maxima should win each time.
road race is different. you know driver weight, skill, tire, full tank vs empty etc...makes a big diff.

02 max even 6mt is like what? 6.5~6.7 0-60
rsx-s is like 6.1 both stock. according to my magzine data.

i don't think in a short distance Max. will win every time.
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Originally Posted by ttliang
road race is different. you know driver weight, skill, tire, full tank vs empty etc...makes a big diff.

02 max even 6mt is like what? 6.5~6.7 0-60
rsx-s is like 6.1 both stock. according to my magzine data.

i don't think in a short distance Max. will win every time.
I guess I overestimated the clarity of my post (or underestimated the obtuseness of some).

First of all, I was referrencing a drag race because most runoffs would be of that nature. (i.e.: my run against the RSX-S was on Route 1 NJ, not Watkins Glen.)

Secondly, I run about 6.5 second 0-60mph times with a best time (stock) of 14.7 seconds in the 1/4 mile with an automatic tranny...which is about the quickest time for a stock RSX-S. Well driven 6MTs post times in the 14.2-14.4 range with sub-6 second 0-60 times. <---- the RSX-S is not posting that without some mods.

Thirdly, it was C/D that posted a 6.0 second 0-60 time for the 5.5G Maxima LINK .

That said I should not have to go into the fallacy of mag times....particularly within the auto enthusiast community where most know better.
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02-04 RSX Type S' is a driver's race with both a 02-03 AT Maxima and a Type S. However, I would give a slight edge to the 05+ RSX's. With that said I have a pretty nice video right here of an 05 RSX's vs an 02 6-spd Maxima, both cars are modded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utSat...ima%20vs%20RSX
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Originally Posted by 2K2SilverTL-S
The 05-06 models have the Type R gear ratios + "cams." They are quicker than the 02-04 model RSX-S on the highway and on the top end. IMO, the TL-S should beat the RSX-S out from 25-110, but after that, the RSX-S will pull away.
Yes, the 05-06 are alot faster. I believe the 06 is a bit faster than the 05. We started from a 2nd gear roll. As soon as we both punched it, my 2nd gear pulled about 1/2 a car. As 3rd gear switched over the RSX-S come up even with me. Close to the end of 4th gear the RSX-S slowly pulled about 1/2.
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Originally Posted by 03Sheermax
02-04 RSX Type S' is a driver's race with both a 02-03 AT Maxima and a Type S. However, I would give a slight edge to the 05+ RSX's. With that said I have a pretty nice video right here of an 05 RSX's vs an 02 6-spd Maxima, both cars are modded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utSat...ima%20vs%20RSX
Nice video indeed!!


Note to self: Procure a set of Cattman headers.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Nice video indeed!!


Note to self: Procure a set of Cattman headers.

Yeah, notice how 1st and 2nd they're neck and neck, I suspect the guy in the Max had a little trouble launching his car(with the 2nd race being the exception). But after that the Max really starts pulling away pretty good. With that said I would love to see what that Acura can do with a Hondata in addition to the mods he has done already. Hopefully they have a sequel coming soon.
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The Maxima's top end was incredible, he was really running away from the RSX-S. However, I think he lost some low end with the headers and exhaust. I say this because in the initial stages of races 1&3 the RSX-S(which we know has little torque compared to the Maxima) started to pull on the Maxima.

What do you guys think, that is just my
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Originally Posted by TLsu
The Maxima's top end was incredible, he was really running away from the RSX-S. However, I think he lost some low end with the headers and exhaust. I say this because in the initial stages of races 1&3 the RSX-S(which we know has little torque compared to the Maxima) started to pull on the Maxima.

What do you guys think, that is just my

It's not that the Max loses torque with the addition of Headers(you actually gain). It's the fact that a 6-spd Maxima is very difficult to launch, and speaking from experience you really have to feather-in the throttle and you also need a good pair of rubber too. Though it is very tricky to launch a Maxima properly.
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^^^Thanks. It was just a thought

The reason I said that was becasue the RSX-S seemed to PULL a bit AFTER the launch in races 1&3. My logic is flawed though because they both had headers anyway. Unless, one wanted to debate the catback exhaust and test pipe created the tq loss (mods which only the Maxima had). I just would have thought the longer the race went the better chance the RSX-S would have had, and as the film shows, that was not the case. The closest the RSX-S ever got was the start before the Maxima started walking away.
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Originally Posted by ttliang
road race is different. you know driver weight, skill, tire, full tank vs empty etc...makes a big diff.

02 max even 6mt is like what? 6.5~6.7 0-60
rsx-s is like 6.1 both stock. according to my magzine data.

i don't think in a short distance Max. will win every time.
No that time is for the 00/01's , and02 manual tested at 6 flat to 60 with C/D. Like F23A4 stated some guys on the org have obtained 5.8 and 5.9 to 60 with 02/03 6spd Maxima's.
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