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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 04:22 PM
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Power tailgate making a moaning/groaning sound

Anyone have this problem? It happens both on opening and closing. The sound lasts a second or two; very loud and annoying. Dealer wants me to bring the RDX in to diagnosis aka they have no idea and will tear my RDX up and find nothing until Acura issues a TSB. From what I can see is that all the trim pieces in the rear have to be removed to get to the tail gate motor and gears. Also looks like the headliner needs to come down. I’m sure they can get all the pieces out, but will they be able to put them back to original condition!? I’m not a happy camper right now.

P.S. Yes, I know I spelled tailgate wrong.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 05:17 PM
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My tailgate makes a slight groaning sound; not loud.
As I will be getting a new tailgate due to a rear end collision, I'm hoping the new one will be quieter.
Maybe it's a lubrication issue?
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 06:01 PM
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If I can take apart my wife’s crv tailgate to install a new camera then I’m sure the dealer can handle taking sort the cars for this and installing remote starters and want not. It’s their job and as a customer they owe it to you to do it right. Even if acuranissies a tsb tomorrow the dealer is still going to do the same thing so your option is to wait for the bulletin and it’s done one time or take it now and potentially have to repeat if they can’t find the fault. It may be cheap or weak motors being used. I hope not! But that’s the most likely reason for noisy gates.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 06:12 PM
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My tailgate makes a slight groaning sound; not loud.
As I will be getting a new tailgate due to a rear end collision, I'm hoping the new one will be quieter.
Maybe it's a lubrication issue?
Sorry to hear about your REC. I told the service manager I want it fixed right the first time; that’s why I was reluctant to be a guinea pig and have him “look” at it. I am half deaf and I can hear the sound from 10’ away. My RDX should not have shipped from the plant as the sound has been there all along. My bad for trusting the tech doing the pre-delivery inspection too. I also told the service manager no WD-40 to try to “fix” it, but I’m sure that’s what they’ll do first.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 06:18 PM
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This tailgate is not metal but, what they call resin (plastic by another name). The inner and outer skins are molded together. They can't open it up, only remove a small inner panel to get at the mechanicals.
Maybe lubricating the upper hinge mechanism will solve the problem
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 07:14 PM
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This issue was covered in the 2019 Acura RDX ONEpack Update #2.

The cause of the noise is currently under investigation.

https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...3-18-a-970758/
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 10:34 PM
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did the problem appear later after you took delivery? or didn't check at the time?
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 03:45 AM
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Ditto here. Didn't hear it at dealership during final inspection but did hear it at home. I wonder if it depends on the incline of the vehicle? My driveway is sloped. Will check and advise.
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 12:10 PM
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I’ve had my RDX for almost 2 weeks now. Yesterday was the first day that I heard the noise, and it was very obvious. It did not make that noise before yesterday
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 05:59 PM
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I test drove one again for 2 hours. Made multiple stops and tested the gate in various slopes....no noise.
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 08:43 PM
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Guess I’ll have to name mine Mona ...
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 09:28 AM
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Had ours for a month and just started doing the "moan" yesterday.
I tried some dry lube to the hinges but that didn't help.
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 08:40 AM
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Me too...

...started noticing it last week. But, I won't worry about it unless it grows louder/harsher.

I'm more bothered that it operates differently from my 2013 RDX; it fights me if I try to open or close it manually, you really have to use the power buttons. I only used power open/close about 10 times during 6 years with the old one, it is not a feature I care about, and pulling the hatch manually up or down has been a hard habit to break. I've finally learned to just press the button, let go, and stand back.
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 10:41 AM
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I'm more bothered that it operates differently from my 2013 RDX; it fights me if I try to open or close it manually, you really have to use the power buttons. I only used power open/close about 10 times during 6 years with the old one, it is not a feature I care about, and pulling the hatch manually up or down has been a hard habit to break. I've finally learned to just press the button, let go, and stand back.
Its funny b/c there are several items now that are becoming standard on cars that I would have never thought that I need....auto high beams, auto wipers, and auto lift gate. To be honest I never would think to even want these items, but now many are required. I still remember the days of high beam button was on the floor. At least I can see the power hatch for someone that is very short or has other limitations.
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 12:30 PM
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IAt least I can see the power hatch for someone that is very short or has other limitations.
The opening height of the hatch is now adjustable and you can still open/close it via the fob. They even have to foot sensor or some of the higher models.

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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 01:06 PM
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The opening height of the hatch is now adjustable and you can still open/close it via the fob. They even have to foot sensor or some of the higher models.
The Advance has the foot sensor, it is quite handy for when you have your hands full to just sweep your foot under the bumper for the hatch to open or close
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by robuckj
...started noticing it last week. But, I won't worry about it unless it grows louder/harsher.

I'm more bothered that it operates differently from my 2013 RDX; it fights me if I try to open or close it manually, you really have to use the power buttons. I only used power open/close about 10 times during 6 years with the old one, it is not a feature I care about, and pulling the hatch manually up or down has been a hard habit to break. I've finally learned to just press the button, let go, and stand back.
I wonder if the noise is a result of people forcing it open and closed manually versus using the power. My wife has a crv and it’s not powered. We HATE it. Probably the only thing we don’t like about her car. Having come from a sedan, I don’t know any differently - power is so nice and easy. I wish the aspec had the foot sensor through.
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizzyg12

I wonder if the noise is a result of people forcing it open and closed manually versus using the power. My wife has a crv and it’s not powered. We HATE it. Probably the only thing we don’t like about her car. Having come from a sedan, I don’t know any differently - power is so nice and easy. I wish the aspec had the foot sensor through.
It is mentioned in the OnePack videos.....Acura is on the case. I saw a review of I think the Highlander, and the reviewer was going nuts b/c the power gate took forever to close and open. At least the RDX is quick.
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizzyg12

I wonder if the noise is a result of people forcing it open and closed manually versus using the power. My wife has a crv and it’s not powered. We HATE it. Probably the only thing we don’t like about her car. Having come from a sedan, I don’t know any differently - power is so nice and easy. I wish the aspec had the foot sensor through.
Probably not and certainly shouldn't be. Power lift gate should be able to be operated manually without an issue. This is most likely due to fitting issue either due to heat expansion or ill fitting of the shells. The fact it took place after few weeks in warrants such suspicion. Good thing Acura is on the case. Now only if they would acknowledge the infotainment crashes.
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 10:03 AM
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Had ours for a month and just started doing the "moan" yesterday.
I tried some dry lube to the hinges but that didn't help.
Updateto my earlier post.
The dry spray lubricant has stopped the moaning tailgate. It just took it a few more opening/closings for the lubricant to coat everything I guess.
Easy fix, no big deal.
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 12:00 PM
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Was that a dealer service recommendation or you are just handy?

i would def keep a can of that stuff around as I think it’s just a temporary fix. Since it mentioned in the Service one video, Acura should have an official word
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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Was that a dealer service recommendation or you are just handy?

i would def keep a can of that stuff around as I think it’s just a temporary fix. Since it mentioned in the Service one video, Acura should have an official word
if I can keep my vehicles out of dealerships, I consider that a win. I usually find and fix at least one squeak, rattle etc on a new vehicle. Double sided 3M tape and dry lube used sparingly are surprisingly effective and most "fixes" seem to last.
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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 05:45 AM
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Creaking Tailgate

The tailgate developed a creak while opening and closing within the first 1,000 miles. My attempt to spray lube in the hinge area did not fix the problem. After the dealership inspected, they discovered that three parts need replaced. One of which is on back order. The service advisor mentioned the parts where fairly sophisticated and expensive but of course covered under warranty.

Hopefully other first year and early production problems don't surface.

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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 12:23 PM
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Less than a week - mine made one little “moan” like a duck fart. On open and again on close
today. Wasn’t constant like the others I’ve heard. Just a little fart.
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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizzyg12
Less than a week - mine made one little “moan” like a duck fart. On open and again on close
today. Wasn’t constant like the others I’ve heard. Just a little fart.
Not being critical. How many ducks have you heard?

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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 03:00 PM
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Not being critical. How many ducks have you heard?

Billy
just two - baby ducks. One on open and one on close. Both when the gate was fully open, so the noise is when the gate is near the “top” position. I’m going to try to set the height a few inches below max and see if that makes a difference.

It’s hot today and I was parked in the sun. Wonder if something is expanding with heat.
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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizzyg12

I wonder if the noise is a result of people forcing it open and closed manually versus using the power. My wife has a crv and it’s not powered. We HATE it. Probably the only thing we don’t like about her car. Having come from a sedan, I don’t know any differently - power is so nice and easy. I wish the aspec had the foot sensor through.
Noise is definitely being caused by parts rubbing. I’m thinking the hinge cover on a bolt. If you manually move tailgate up and down a few inches in the fully upright position you can play a tune. There was a 3”-4” line of a white residue on the front left side of the hinge cover when I first heard the noise. Glad to hear (pun intended) Acura is on it and I am not totally losing what mind I have left.
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Old Jul 12, 2018 | 07:03 AM
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Repair order from mine that took a week and half to diagnose, order parts and repair.
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Old Jul 12, 2018 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EDventure
Repair order from mine that took a week and half to diagnose, order parts and repair.
so successful surgery?
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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 07:13 AM
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You have one awesome dealership. Glad to see this problem can be addressed at the dealership easily. Thanks for sharing so others can share with their dealer services.
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Old Jul 14, 2018 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EDventure
Repair order from mine that took a week and half to diagnose, order parts and repair.
have you had any recurrence of the moans or is it all solved now?
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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 05:10 AM
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have you had any recurrence of the moans or is it all solved now?
Everything seems fine now.
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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dizzyg12

I wonder if the noise is a result of people forcing it open and closed manually versus using the power.
We took one off the lot for an extended test drive that had this issue, and it had less than 50 miles on it. It’s a slight design flaw/fit-finish issue from the factory.
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 07:14 PM
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My local Acura dealer said they have had reported issues on almost all of the units sold. They said they replaced components and the issue recurs soon after. Advises to wait until Acura issues a formal fix.

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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 07:43 PM
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I'm sure they will adopt one of the field engineer's fix, perhaps even narrow it down further to minimal part replacement. Part of the first year model pains... This one seems to be less painful than the infotainment system reboots/crashes.
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 08:23 AM
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Stopped by my dealer to have mine looked at. They had a corporate rep come visit the dealership to look at my RDX. The plan is to replace the springs in the hinges. Was told they are manufacturing new springs, they are on backorder, and will replace when they get them in.
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 01:53 PM
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Same issue with mine (right at the apex of opening/closing is when the rubbing can be heard)... Only 200 miles on it so far, due to the back order on the new springs, it'll have been at the dealership for about a week. Not too bad. If it weren't torn apart right now, I'd just ask to pick the car back up until the parts come in as we have a 2018 RDX loaner right now that (when compared to the 3G) seems dated. Plus they fixed a door ding for me while they have it so I'm not complaining.
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Chreph
Same issue with mine (right at the apex of opening/closing is when the rubbing can be heard)... Only 200 miles on it so far, due to the back order on the new springs, it'll have been at the dealership for about a week. Not too bad. If it weren't torn apart right now, I'd just ask to pick the car back up until the parts come in as we have a 2018 RDX loaner right now that (when compared to the 3G) seems dated. Plus they fixed a door ding for me while they have it so I'm not complaining.
did you get pics of the door ding? I have one now that I will be getting fixed soon. Did they do PDR? Or was it a repair and paint job?
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Acura is taking a long time to issue a formal TSB.
I have a new tailgate and it groans just like the original.

I wonder how many expensive spring replacements they will make before they say it's 'normal operation' or hit it with Honda's universal cure, Shin-Etsu grease?
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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by catbert430
Acura is taking a long time to issue a formal TSB.
I have a new tailgate and it groans just like the original.

I wonder how many expensive spring replacements they will make before they say it's 'normal operation' or hit it with Honda's universal cure, Shin-Etsu grease?

i think they have overtightened hinges or something. It sounds like something is binding. Metal on metal to me.
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