WTH... slushy weather knocks out the radar?

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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 03:06 PM
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WTH... slushy weather knocks out the radar?

35 degrees and snowing heavy wet flakes today... after 35 minutes on the road my radar goes out and my cruise control becomes obsolete. When I stopped the car and checked the big logo on the grill I see it has a raised edge around it which keep stuff from moving off of it... about a 1/4 to 3/8 inch build up and the radar unit apparently goes out. I guess it's not a huge deal but I would be a little miffed if I had 200 miles to go and I couldn't use my cruise control.
Maybe this has been covered elsewhere but it's new to me....HMMM.
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DKraky
35 degrees and snowing heavy wet flakes today... after 35 minutes on the road my radar goes out and my cruise control becomes obsolete. When I stopped the car and checked the big logo on the grill I see it has a raised edge around it which keep stuff from moving off of it... about a 1/4 to 3/8 inch build up and the radar unit apparently goes out. I guess it's not a huge deal but I would be a little miffed if I had 200 miles to go and I couldn't use my cruise control.
Maybe this has been covered elsewhere but it's new to me....HMMM.
you can switch to normal cruise that is not using the radar in this situation if needed, won’t auto adjust distance, but better then nothing, they need a heated emblem
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DKraky
35 degrees and snowing heavy wet flakes today... after 35 minutes on the road my radar goes out and my cruise control becomes obsolete. When I stopped the car and checked the big logo on the grill I see it has a raised edge around it which keep stuff from moving off of it... about a 1/4 to 3/8 inch build up and the radar unit apparently goes out. I guess it's not a huge deal but I would be a little miffed if I had 200 miles to go and I couldn't use my cruise control.
Maybe this has been covered elsewhere but it's new to me....HMMM.
You can use the 'normal' cruise control after you disable the adaptive cruise control. Hold down the distance setting button till it shows disabled. The system switches to using the conventional cruise control when you use set/resume buttons.
"Press and hold the (interval) button for one second. Cruise Mode Selected appears on the multi-information display for two seconds, and then the mode switches to Cruise. To switch back to ACC with Low Speed Follow, press and hold the button again for
one second." - Page 475 of the owners manual


I also disable the collision mitigation and LKAS when driving in snow, never know when the system decides to brake all of a sudden with malfunctioning radar.
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 05:48 PM
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Thanks guys I never thought of trying to turn off the Adaptive part of the cruise control to get it working again... I kind of figured the system would turn it off automatically when it malfunctioned. I am thinking without the raised Rim around the logo the snow and slush with pretty much blow off of it with the wind speed. I think I'll get my Dremel tool out and remove it....just kidding! Actually it's more of a job for my 4-inch sander..ha!
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DKraky
Thanks guys I never thought of trying to turn off the Adaptive part of the cruise control to get it working again... I kind of figured the system would turn it off automatically when it malfunctioned. I am thinking without the raised Rim around the logo the snow and slush with pretty much blow off of it with the wind speed. I think I'll get my Dremel tool out and remove it....just kidding! Actually it's more of a job for my 4-inch sander..ha!
Before you break out the power tools, silicone spray or cooking spray may help stuff slide off more easily. ( Well known trick for bicycle racing in muddy conditions ). Or just a good coat of wax and/or RainX.

If you're using cruise control in conditions where slush is freezing on your grill, you might want to rethink that. If the system calls for brisk acceleration while you're on a slippery surface, you're screwed. ( Think icy bridges... ). Especially if you're not running winter tires. OTOH the automated braking system also depends upon the radar sensor.

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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 09:36 PM
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same issue with another brand

I encountered a similar issue with my 2019 Mazda 3, if it's any consolation.
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 09:39 PM
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Using adaptive cruise control in snow, ice or slushy conditions is not a good idea. It's not that "intelligent". At least not as intelligent as you're supposed to be.
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 10:04 PM
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Rainx the logo, might keep it from even sticking
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 08:34 AM
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My 2018 Accord does the same thing.

I wish they'd add a heating element to it. It's not only that it gets disabled (that's probably for the best when the conditions are bad enough) but also that it gets really caked with ice and unless you have a heated garage to park it in, you end up having to chip the ice off. I'm always afraid of damaging the sensor. One time, after getting the ice off somewhat violently, the system started giving error messages and failing. A trip to the dealer later and it was fixed, and the dealer told me it's a known problem and not my fault, but I can't help think I did something when I was chipping off the ice.

Anyway, it is what it is. I predict next gen will have a heating element, or something, to help clear it. Sort of like how many new luxury cars have rear camera washers - anyone who has had a rear camera for a while knows how often you have to clean that thing in the winter!
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 10:43 AM
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I had the same issue on a recent trip to Vermont and I found it a little annoying. I don't know if a heated logo would work, but it might be worth a shot. Aftermarket/DIY?

Personally I don't buy the "if the sensor is covered you shouldn't be using ACC anyway" argument. Certainly that's true in some cases, but my experience was that there were big wet flakes coming down, but the road itself was clear - nothing was sticking, and the traffic was basically melting anything that landed. It was a little wet, but far less wet than even a moderate rain. Using ACC shouldn't have been a problem.
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 12:15 PM
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Even if the logo is clear, the system may still not work if the roads isnt clear or it cant see the edges or lines.
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MTD
Even if the logo is clear, the system may still not work if the roads isnt clear or it cant see the edges or lines.
Lane keeping assist and road departure mitigation require clear lines, not emergency braking or ACC.
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