Over The Air (OTA) Software Update D.1.6.2 and FDC17.07.007 / NAD200.0.9A00
#81
Burning Brakes
And I wonder why 4G would not have just been enabled/working all along? It's not like in 2019/2020 the world was on 3G, unless they were trying to keep you on 3G just because it was the cheapest way they could get ATT to do the Hot Spot and the Acura Link contract. Wait...did I just answer myself?
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#82
Skeptic
I have the AcuraLink Remote plan and I haven't received any emails yet. But I did install the update.
#83
I bet this is all related to 1.6.2 (for all 19-21). Got a similar notice in AcuraLink app yesterday. Car still shows no update available. I'm sure still a phased update. I'll wait a bit and then call the dealer if it still doesn't show up. It appears that 19, and some 21's are getting it first. Haven't seen any 20's posting with it yet.
#84
Burning Brakes
We'll see. I have a 19, did the 1.6.2. update but never saw any message like MXFanatic did. Plenty of time, I just don't want to get caught paying for this 'embedded cellular device' in case it's not 1.6.2. Since I didn't get this mystery letter, has me a little concerned.
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EFR (11-19-2021)
#87
Did the update on mine yesterday and all went smoothly. System seems to run fine as did Android Auto, etc.
I do mine sitting in the garage. I hook up my Battery Tender, turn the car "On" , give it the OK to update and walk off and let it do its thing. Oh, I put the window down and leave the key in the seat while I am gone. Since its locked in the garage no worries about leaving the key inside.
I do mine sitting in the garage. I hook up my Battery Tender, turn the car "On" , give it the OK to update and walk off and let it do its thing. Oh, I put the window down and leave the key in the seat while I am gone. Since its locked in the garage no worries about leaving the key inside.
#88
Suzuka Master
Did the update on mine yesterday and all went smoothly. System seems to run fine as did Android Auto, etc.
I do mine sitting in the garage. I hook up my Battery Tender, turn the car "On" , give it the OK to update and walk off and let it do its thing. Oh, I put the window down and leave the key in the seat while I am gone. Since its locked in the garage no worries about leaving the key inside.
I do mine sitting in the garage. I hook up my Battery Tender, turn the car "On" , give it the OK to update and walk off and let it do its thing. Oh, I put the window down and leave the key in the seat while I am gone. Since its locked in the garage no worries about leaving the key inside.
wow, is this the procedure for a modern car….
#89
Burning Brakes
LOL...I do the same thing myself...roll down the window and leave the keys in on the seat. I have auto-lock set and don't want the car thinking I'm leaving and shutting any thing off or down. I'll have to get one of those Battery Tenders. I managed to get the 1.6.2 update done and with some issues, the latest navigation update done. There is a great deal of satisfaction getting this done on the RDX...like I 'beat' the Acura!!! Of course it shouldn't be this way, but... I have this same 'it vs. me' thing with my R7 radar detector. Probably about the best RD that exists at the moment, but getting it to cooperate with a Mac is thing unto itself.
#90
#91
Is this a problem for you? I mean the vehicle will update itself while I am driving but since there are times I don't do long drives (live in a small town and use my Fit for short trips) I just let it do its thing in the garage. I can't quite see where this is such a problem.. I seem to recall there is also an option to allow the vehicle to do this while its turned off. I mean in my years in the industry we would do updates from our factory scan tool or our shop computer terminal. We made a habit of putting a small charger on the vehicle as a precaution to maintain a nice clean steady voltage on the system while it did the internal changes. Allowing this car to do all of this itself with no external connection to a tool or terminal seems to my old brain to be a pretty simple and straight forward way to do things.
Maybe you have a better idea of how a "modern" car should be updated but I see nothing odd, unusual or "out of date" by doing it the way I do. It works 100% of the time and I never have an issue. I tend to stick to consistent procedures that work.
Maybe you have a better idea of how a "modern" car should be updated but I see nothing odd, unusual or "out of date" by doing it the way I do. It works 100% of the time and I never have an issue. I tend to stick to consistent procedures that work.
Last edited by hans471; 11-19-2021 at 06:04 PM. Reason: update wording
#92
Skeptic
I just started it when I got out of work and drove home. It was done just before I got home.
I think this was the longest OTA update yet, about 30 minutes. Most others were only about 5-10 minutes.
I have a USB in the car with the latest map update. I'll upload it the next time I expect to be in the car for at least an hour.
I think this was the longest OTA update yet, about 30 minutes. Most others were only about 5-10 minutes.
I have a USB in the car with the latest map update. I'll upload it the next time I expect to be in the car for at least an hour.
#93
Well, having done hundreds of updates to many vehicles professionally over the decades its a habit and one that avoids problems. It maintains a very clean and consistent voltage in the system and takes all of two minutes to hook up. Seems a pretty easy safety step. The car will do all of this update stuff itself while driving but sometimes I am not driving the car for days at a time so I stick to the "old way" that has served me well for many years on many vehicles. A little battery tender is not a big deal. I recall on my one Honda CR-V the instructions had you leave the engine running while doing an update! No way! Little Battery Tender handles this just fine and I don't smoke up the garage. I have also encountered people who had a defective battery and didn't know it. Half way through the update the system crashed due to low voltage. This can cause some serious issues so why not just do a simple step as a precaution and never have to worry?
Good thing its a free country and one can chose to do things any way they wish!
Good thing its a free country and one can chose to do things any way they wish!
#94
Suzuka Master
Yes, I do, You supposed to click update, agree to update, click OK, and it should update within 10-20 minutes regardless if you turn off your car or do whatever.
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#95
Drifting
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#97
Burning Brakes
If I had not had my battery go dead while doing this update, and go dead while doing a radar detector update, both times with anything that I could turn was turned off (while in ACC mode) I may agree. But if avoids that problem, it may be a good investment.
#98
Well, having done hundreds of updates to many vehicles professionally over the decades its a habit and one that avoids problems. It maintains a very clean and consistent voltage in the system and takes all of two minutes to hook up. Seems a pretty easy safety step. The car will do all of this update stuff itself while driving but sometimes I am not driving the car for days at a time so I stick to the "old way" that has served me well for many years on many vehicles. A little battery tender is not a big deal. I recall on my one Honda CR-V the instructions had you leave the engine running while doing an update! No way! Little Battery Tender handles this just fine and I don't smoke up the garage. I have also encountered people who had a defective battery and didn't know it. Half way through the update the system crashed due to low voltage. This can cause some serious issues so why not just do a simple step as a precaution and never have to worry?
Good thing its a free country and one can chose to do things any way they wish!
Good thing its a free country and one can chose to do things any way they wish!
#99
Suzuka Master
Normal systems have a way to recover when power is cut during software update. For example, they can boot in recovery mode with limited functionality and instruct user to insert USB with OTA. I also believe battery capacity is known to a car, and update should not start if capacity is low. All the people that have stuck updates, I doubt any of them due to low battery, maybe few examples.
#100
If a really low short term power draw kills your battery then you have a screwed up battery. Time for a new one. I just replaced the original battery in a 12 year old Lexus. Or if your that paranoid then just leave your car running while doing updates.
#102
Burning Brakes
Thanks...that seems to be the consensus. Hope to get into Acura within the week to get it checked. I guess it's really up to them to determine if it passes the inspection or not (and, under warranty). If it doesn't, I am not sure that an Acura battery is what will replace it. My only concern is, has Acura instituted the same 'software' or whatever that BMW that causes issues when you replace your battery with one that does not match exactly the specs of the one it is replacing. If the battery is bad at 38 months, that is probably the fastest we have ever had a car battery go, however am not that familiar with AGM batteries and their life expectancy/behavior as they go out.
#103
#104
Normal systems have a way to recover when power is cut during software update. For example, they can boot in recovery mode with limited functionality and instruct user to insert USB with OTA. I also believe battery capacity is known to a car, and update should not start if capacity is low. All the people that have stuck updates, I doubt any of them due to low battery, maybe few examples.
And, as I have a battery Tender anyway as I use it on my motorcycle, mower and other devices with batteries as they sit out the Winter. Why not use a tool that is sitting there and paid for? Seems like a "no-brainer" as they use to say. I tend to get years of useful life from batteries in all these machines, much longer than average users as I take good care of my batteries. Even with my mower and motorcycle I get four or five years or more where many replace their batteries every year or two. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Last edited by hans471; 11-21-2021 at 10:03 PM.
#105
Suzuka Master
Ah, but some of us have cars that sit in the garage for several weeks at a time without being driven. To take a simple precaution that causes no harm and might even be beneficial seems pretty reasonable to some. Sorry if you disagree.
And, as I have a battery Tender anyway as I use it on my motorcycle, mower and other devices with batteries as they sit out the Winter. Why not use a tool that is sitting there and paid for? Seems like a "no-brainer" as they use to say. I tend to get years of useful life from batteries in all these machines, much longer than average users as I take good care of my batteries. Even with my mower and motorcycle I get four or five years or more where many replace their batteries every year or two. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
And, as I have a battery Tender anyway as I use it on my motorcycle, mower and other devices with batteries as they sit out the Winter. Why not use a tool that is sitting there and paid for? Seems like a "no-brainer" as they use to say. I tend to get years of useful life from batteries in all these machines, much longer than average users as I take good care of my batteries. Even with my mower and motorcycle I get four or five years or more where many replace their batteries every year or two. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
I have garage, battery tender. I even rotate my tires, change my own oil and rear diff. My point is that Acura built a flaky infotainment system that requires all kinds of baby sitting to minimize the chance of failure that requires visit to dealership. Why is that my iPhones over 10 years never have issues during update, low battery or not? I expect more from Acura,
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EFR (11-22-2021)
#106
Skeptic
Two things I noticed since doing the update:
- AcuraLink connects and displays status much quicker. It must now be using the 4G LTE network. It connects to the car in just a few seconds and remote start is executed and acknowledged in about 10 seconds.
- Traffic on the navigation system is MUCH better. The traffic conditions of the road I'm on updates and displays right away. That didn't used to happen. Road would stay gray for a long time, if not forever. I DID update the maps this weekend but I doubt it has anything to do with that. I don't know.
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#107
Burning Brakes
"Ah, but some of us have cars that sit in the garage for several weeks at a time without being driven. To take a simple precaution that causes no harm and might even be beneficial seems pretty reasonable to some. Sorry if you disagree."
Me, exactly. 3 years, 2 months and 10K miles on car....so sits in garage a lot, and a lot of those miles are just to the local grocery, etc. I'm wondering how much of that is causing my battery to go dead during these minor league updates, but will take it to Acura soon. In the meantime, I have ordered a Battery Tender just to keep it from dying.
Me, exactly. 3 years, 2 months and 10K miles on car....so sits in garage a lot, and a lot of those miles are just to the local grocery, etc. I'm wondering how much of that is causing my battery to go dead during these minor league updates, but will take it to Acura soon. In the meantime, I have ordered a Battery Tender just to keep it from dying.
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Vince D (11-22-2021)
#109
Expanse me
I have garage, battery tender. I even rotate my tires, change my own oil and rear diff. My point is that Acura built a flaky infotainment system that requires all kinds of baby sitting to minimize the chance of failure that requires visit to dealership. Why is that my iPhones over 10 years never have issues during update, low battery or not? I expect more from Acura,
#110
10th Gear
2020 model year is now officially the next contestant for the update
https://owners.acura.com/Documentum/ota/2020_RDX.pdf
Seems like they’re staging a weekly release. So 2021 next week?
P.S. Wondering if us Canadians will get “upgraded” to 4G as our 3G network is here to stay for a few more years…
https://owners.acura.com/Documentum/ota/2020_RDX.pdf
Seems like they’re staging a weekly release. So 2021 next week?
P.S. Wondering if us Canadians will get “upgraded” to 4G as our 3G network is here to stay for a few more years…
#112
For my 2019, the 1.6.2 update seemed to do both the normal update things correcting bugs plus move to 4G. I noticed that there was a system update status bar crawling across the bottom of the display as a separate step to the normal waterfall display. I have never noticed the status bar before on previous updates but I guess I could have missed it. I am guessing that the system update bar was specifically for the 4G update and the waterfall indicator was for the normal maintenance fixes. Tomorrow as I head out for a several hour drive I will do the latest map update on the way. I did notice that the map download to the flash drive was somewhat faster than previous times.
#113
Unfortunately, com.Honda error message when system tries to update.
Since the start of last week, I have been seeing this com.Honda error message keep appearing when the infotainment system is trying to load the System Update. After I click OK on the notifications, it shows “Loading” with a buffer wheel going continuously. I have let it go for hours and never progresses. I can click Hone to get out of it and the radio, maps, CarPlay and everything works normally. However if I turn the car off/on, it will always greet me w that error message and gets stuck in Loading again until I click Home to get out of it. I am able to confirm the software version is showing as D 1.5.1 still so guessing this error won’t let me upgrade to the 1.6.1. Even when I try to access System Update from the Menu I can’t even get to the screen w the Wireless or USB option because I get the above error and Loading issue. Any thoughts on how I get around this?
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The following threads were updated with information on software version D.1.6.2 and software version FDC17.07.007 / NAD200.0.9A00:
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#115
iPhone has nothing to do with the update. You can actually turn it off. I do all my updates at home while connected to my in home wireless router.
#116
Burning Brakes
Did the update on mine yesterday and all went smoothly. System seems to run fine as did Android Auto, etc.
I do mine sitting in the garage. I hook up my Battery Tender, turn the car "On" , give it the OK to update and walk off and let it do its thing. Oh, I put the window down and leave the key in the seat while I am gone. Since its locked in the garage no worries about leaving the key inside.
I do mine sitting in the garage. I hook up my Battery Tender, turn the car "On" , give it the OK to update and walk off and let it do its thing. Oh, I put the window down and leave the key in the seat while I am gone. Since its locked in the garage no worries about leaving the key inside.
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#117
Expanse me
i know that and did not mean to confuse you with he iPhone reference. I meant that apple ensures, for example, that the device is properly charged or plugged in before an update. So that is the point. Ensure the car battery has enough power to get thru the update, even if you need to put on a trickle charger, not a bad idea, not a waste of time. That's all I am saying.
#119
Suzuka Master
Just checked, nothing. would help if their document provided some timeline when update will be available so you dont guess if there is an issue.
#120
Racer