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The MDX was going to be introduced after the TLX and was always reported to be early to late fall- so I think it is not far behind the original schedule if it is introduced in October as this article states
Is the October date the official debut date or the actual in-showroom-for-sale date ?
Using the 2G TLX as reference, it will take at least another 4 months after the official debut, before the car is really available in showrooms for immediate delivery.
It sounded like October was the production time for the MDX. According to how I read it, the MDX was nominally scheduled to begin production in May so that there would be ample stock for a late summer or fall rollout. The announcement should have happened at either the Detroit or New York auto shows, which would have been June (Detroit) and August 28-Sept 6 (NY). In principle, June would have been the ideal time as most automakers like to generate months of buzz, preorders, and more ahead of release, but I'm not an auto exec.
So... what will they do? How can they build an event big enough to incentivize a $50-60k purchase in the fallout of the pandemic?
I agree it could have many reasons. It does take time for the factory to retool, and during this fiasco corona stuff it probably will take longer. So for a August start up May shut down is reasonable.
They're many in Denver area and dealers here are doing 13k off msrp
Holy crap! That's almost enough to make you want to buy a 2020 instead of waiting. Almost. I'm hoping there's some good incentives to buy one of the first '21s...
Holy crap! That's almost enough to make you want to buy a 2020 instead of waiting. Almost. I'm hoping there's some good incentives to buy one of the first '21s...
I just helped family and friends bought 3 MDXs for $12k off in the Bay Area. I was looking at the Kia Telluride, but now I am trying hard not to buy the MDX. I will wait to see if they go down to 15k off, then I will buy.
You will likely pay near MSRP for 2021 and deal with the 1st yr model issues. 2021 looks 95% the same as the 2020 and I am not sure about the new turbo engine.
Holy crap! That's almost enough to make you want to buy a 2020 instead of waiting. Almost. I'm hoping there's some good incentives to buy one of the first '21s...
Keep in mind that even though the 2020 is a damn good deal right now, just make sure you won't regret not having waited for the 2021, when you start seeing the 2021 models passing by your previous-gen-styling 2020 MDX.
I just helped family and friends bought 3 MDXs for $12k off in the Bay Area. I was looking at the Kia Telluride, but now I am trying hard not to buy the MDX. I will wait to see if they go down to 15k off, then I will buy.
You will likely pay near MSRP for 2021 and deal with the 1st yr model issues. 2021 looks 95% the same as the 2020 and I am not sure about the new turbo engine.
The Kia Telluride in my area is marked up $5k. Is that that same where you are? They have very low inventory if any and a salesman told me it's to keep up the hype. I've seen the SXP with a list for $55K.
Based on Acura's history, the first two years of a brand new redesign almost always have issues. True Acura reliability won't come until Mid-Cycle Refresh. Even if the 2021 model appear in the dealer showroom floor tomorrow, I'd be hesitant to be the guinea pig to own a first year new model. Just enjoy your 3rd generation for now, but keep a watchful eye on the 4th generation. Wait till the mid cycle refresh and go snatch one.
One advantage the 2021 MDX has that would help to lessen the 1st year bugs is the 19/20 RDX. I imagine a lot of the issues with the 3rd Gen RDX was the typical 1st model run tech stuff you don't discover until the car is in real the world. I can see Acura taking the lessons learned and using the same RDX tech as much as possible in the 21 MDX (transmission, info-tainment, firmware/software upgrades, TSB fixes, suspension, etc...). It might not be as bad with the 21 MDX or 2nd Gen TLX; but, the +MMC version seems to be the models to pick if you want the latest styling, newest tech, and want to keep +100,000 miles with the least amount of issue down the road.
Once the 2021 MDX hits the showroom floor, then you will start to see the +$15,000 discounts for the 2020 MDXs. You might even see +$20,000 by years end for 2020 MDX.
One advantage the 2021 MDX has that would help to lessen the 1st year bugs is the 19/20 RDX. I imagine a lot of the issues with the 3rd Gen RDX was the typical 1st model run tech stuff you don't discover until the car is in real the world. I can see Acura taking the lessons learned and using the same RDX tech as much as possible in the 21 MDX (transmission, info-tainment, firmware/software upgrades, TSB fixes, suspension, etc...). It might not be as bad with the 21 MDX or 2nd Gen TLX; but, the +MMC version seems to be the models to pick if you want the latest styling, newest tech, and want to keep +100,000 miles with the least amount of issue down the road.
Once the 2021 MDX hits the showroom floor, then you will start to see the +$15,000 discounts for the 2020 MDXs. You might even see +$20,000 by years end for 2020 MDX.
i think $12k offf is crazy now on an Asian car. Is there a time in the past where Acura gave bigger discount on the mdx? I may close a deal today, they value $20k for my 16 awd with 65k miles
Several factors in play. End of 3rd Gen. Gotta move those for the upcoming 4th Gen. Also COVID wrecked the spring for car manufacturers. They’ll trim profits to move inventory. Inventory is lower than normal, but they are still willing to deal. Good luck!
i think $12k offf is crazy now on an Asian car. Is there a time in the past where Acura gave bigger discount on the mdx? I may close a deal today, they value $20k for my 16 awd with 65k miles
On the MDX, no. But on the pitiful selling RLX, yes.
Based on Acura's history, the first two years of a brand new redesign almost always have issues. True Acura reliability won't come until Mid-Cycle Refresh. Even if the 2021 model appear in the dealer showroom floor tomorrow, I'd be hesitant to be the guinea pig to own a first year new model. Just enjoy your 3rd generation for now, but keep a watchful eye on the 4th generation. Wait till the mid cycle refresh and go snatch one.
I would have to disagree..i have no patience and usually grab the new model right away. I have had 2 new model MDX and 2 TL’s without any issues.
yes, a recall here or there but nothing that made me regret getting it.
imho
I would have to disagree..i have no patience and usually grab the new model right away. I have had 2 new model MDX and 2 TL’s without any issues.
yes, a recall here or there but nothing that made me regret getting it.
imho
Especially not the case with the last MDX as they changed the transmission in 2016 and people started having problems.
I just traded my ‘18 FWD Tech for a ‘20 AWD Tech. I get there are some cool appearance and performance upgrades on the way, but the deal I got, plus the first model year vehicles I’ve bought in the past (no reliability slouch that 4Runner) made me happily pull the trigger.
Actually some of the best, most well equipped, trouble free vehicles I’ve owned ha e been the last year of a model run.
You're certainly getting the most sorted version of this current generation, but there is always something that snags my attention on the new generation, in this case its the possibility of a type S. Not to mention the barrier of meaningful transaction costs of flipping cars frequently, regardless of how good the deal was.
Boy, Acura must have had the lawyers call and scrub this thread. Where did the pictures go? Frankly, I could understand why they did: a very offensive front clip. I am really disappointed on how the design ended up with such a long overhang! Ugly! I won't buy a Ford again, but at least they know how to make a better looking SUV.
Boy, Acura must have had the lawyers call and scrub this thread. Where did the pictures go? Frankly, I could understand why they did: a very offensive front clip. I am really disappointed on how the design ended up with such a long overhang! Ugly! I won't buy a Ford again, but at least they know how to make a better looking SUV.
I don't see the big deal with the front end. You guys are talking like there's a 20 foot extension over the front wheels. I'm not seeing it:
It looks like we're talking inches of difference between the new MDX and the Ford you posted. Except for the unpainted panels at the bottom of the Ford, I'll admit the side profile looks way more stylish. But I've sat in a few Explorers... No thank you!
It only takes a few inches to make a big visual difference. Add to that the way the Ford slopes back as the clip rises rather than the MDX where it slopes "out" much like a Mazda as others have said. The MDX lines look frumpy making the vehicle perfect for Grandma. It may be different in person, but it does not look exciting in pictures.
On another note, and again, I'm not a huge Ford fan, the hybrid Explorer has a 5000lb towing capacity. Hope Acura addresses that on the 2021 Hybrid.
^^^A true glutton 'ol Vic is. Maybe you should become a huge Ford fan. Even though the camo is not removed you have resigned yourself to hating the 4th gen styling. Then if you pile your countless ZF9 hate threads and comments across both MDX sites, one wonders why you would consider a 4th gen MDX. Crossover SUV's abound in marketplace, even though you are (not) 96, maybe you should sample another brand for your health and mental well-being.
lol well everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I generally like the styling of the Explorer, but the cheap factor is so obvious in so many places that it kills it for me. Gratuitous unpainted panels are just too much! The interior is even worse, unfortunately.
My wife's TLX (MY 2016) does not have the most appealing design either. It's not bad, but they really improved in the subsequent years. The Lexus we were comparing it to had better exterior styling. BUT... the Lexus had that ridiculous square mouse thing instead of a "normal" touchscreen interface. No carplay because Toyota was still under the hallucination that their brand of navi was somehow better. Worse gas mileage (by FAR, especially on the highway). Seats not as comfortable. Acceleration roughly the same. Less rear leg room. I mean the list goes on and on...
Point being: The experience inside the car is the thing I care about the most. The TLX is an amazing machine, period. Nearly 300 hp, the SH-AWD system is excellent, and I can get 35 mpg on the highway. The fit and finish is excellent. The leather is supple and has held up perfectly (granted we're only at 40k miles). The seat heaters and coolers are tied to the climate control setting. Etc etc etc... The experience in the TLX is amazing. If the MDX replicates that, plus some new features (like carplay), sign me up. The exterior styling is so far down on my list of priorities now that it would have to be Pontiac Aztec-ugly for me to care.
(edit: I'll add that the lack of towing capability for the hybrid seems bizarre... I don't have any toys to haul, and I have a 4Runner if that ever changes, but it's odd. I hope they change that too)
Boy, Acura must have had the lawyers call and scrub this thread. Where did the pictures go? Frankly, I could understand why they did: a very offensive front clip. I am really disappointed on how the design ended up with such a long overhang! Ugly! I won't buy a Ford again, but at least they know how to make a better looking SUV.
Guess I touched a nerve. While almost 96, I still really like my MDX and have no plans to get another Ford. I had way too many issues to even list here with mine. Also, I want to be clear. The vehicle in the picture IS a Ford Explorer. I used it as an example of what I would have liked to see the front look something like on the MDX. I regret the confusion it has caused.
PS- don't "hate"the ZF, just had my share of little issues like many, many others on here. It also has never stranded me....yet.
Have you looked at the interior? I did look into buying it, until I stepped inside. Quality is lower than my kid's ride on.
Ford spent all their money on the RWD chasis it's the main reason why it doesn't have the cab forward look like the MDX. Plus ford main market is police and rental fleet for the explorer dont think they have much conquest sales.
The MDX is actually going to be more upright with a taller grill like the explorer if the leaked CGIs from last July are as accurate as they are the TLX.
Have you looked at the interior? I did look into buying it, until I stepped inside. Quality is lower than my kid's ride on.
Interior is a completely different story. The interior design department must be behind schedule in meeting certain milestones. They just slapped an aftermarket-looking tablet right in the middle of the dash and called it a day. It looks absolutely awful, and the quality feels terrible. I have never and will never own a ford, but I must give them credit for designing a good looking exterior on the sixth generation Explorer.
This might be very close 85%-95% of what the 4th Gen MDX interior might look like compared to the next gen TLX. Not sure if this is from the Type-S TLX or tech/adv versions? Interiors are starting to look like a cockpit from an advance fighter jet.
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