Do I need to rebalance tires or something?
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Do I need to rebalance tires or something?
Not sure what the heck is going on with my MDX this year, considering it had been to the shop for 16 times, but now she's giving me the symptoms of needing to be rebalanced again (possibly third time for these tires within 2000 miles). Do I need to get them rebalanced or is it something else that I am missing?
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#2
mrgold35
Do you feel the out of balance in the steering wheel, from the driver's seat, or more from the rear. I had a rear tire way out of balance after a tire fix trip from Acura to see my rear passenger head rest shaking/vibrating at hwy speeds. Ended up taking to Discount Tire for road force balance and that solved the issue. The best way to see if it is one tire out of balance issue is to do a rotation. Next best thing is a road force balance. The tech working on your MDX could also over tq the lugs with the impact wrench. It could be a tire issue being out of round, if that doesn't work and you have no issues with your suspension, rim damage, or lugs.
#3
Burning Brakes
Sixteen times? Wow . . . .if that were me, it would now be someone else's MDX. It may not be the tires. Could be the wheel(s)? Loose lugs? Could be anything suspension related. Are you taking it to Acura for these issues? Are you able to get a second opinion? Heck, even if you have to take it to a Honda dealership. They can at least give you a diagnosis to see if they can find anything.
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Do you feel the out of balance in the steering wheel, from the driver's seat, or more from the rear. I had a rear tire way out of balance after a tire fix trip from Acura to see my rear passenger head rest shaking/vibrating at hwy speeds. Ended up taking to Discount Tire for road force balance and that solved the issue. The best way to see if it is one tire out of balance issue is to do a rotation. Next best thing is a road force balance. The tech working on your MDX could also over tq the lugs with the impact wrench. It could be a tire issue being out of round, if that doesn't work and you have no issues with your suspension, rim damage, or lugs.
Sixteen times? Wow . . . .if that were me, it would now be someone else's MDX. It may not be the tires. Could be the wheel(s)? Loose lugs? Could be anything suspension related. Are you taking it to Acura for these issues? Are you able to get a second opinion? Heck, even if you have to take it to a Honda dealership. They can at least give you a diagnosis to see if they can find anything.
#5
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Got my tires rebalanced last Thursday and now, again, they are misbalanced. Not sure what is causing this misbalancing. Should I go to another shop (Honda dealer) or have Acura take a look at the entire suspension to see what is causing the misbalance?
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Welcome to my world. LOL I know exactly how you feel. I have a 2019 MDX SH-AWD Tech (non-hybrid) and have experience the very same thing 9shimmy and pulling to one side)to the point where Acura rotated, turned the tires, and performed an alignment. In the end, Acura replaced the stock Continentals (due to a defect in the road force) to Michelin Primacy Tours and I still feel the shimmy once I get up to 50 mph. You can definitely feel it in the steering wheel. I was driving in Sport Mode and changed to Normal to see if the issue would correct itself. No such luck. I took it in a few weeks ago for an inspection before a road trip and the service manager drove it and said "yep, I feel it. I don't know what is causing it. When you bring it in for the next oil change, plan to leave it with me so we can try to pinpoint the problem." My oil life is till 60% so it's gonna be a little while, but this has been going on for about a year. I traded a 2018 Lexus RX 350 AWD because I hated the braking distance, acceleration hesitation, handling, and the seats were so dang uncomfortable (especially on long trips), but didn't have any of the issues I am experiencing with the MDX (I have been a loyal Honda/Acura customer for almost 20 years). I have already told my salesperson I want to trade out and go to the RDX ADV AWD. He's supposedly keeping an eye out for me. Please let us know what happens and I will do the same.
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Welcome to my world. LOL I know exactly how you feel. I have a 2019 MDX SH-AWD Tech (non-hybrid) and have experience the very same thing 9shimmy and pulling to one side)to the point where Acura rotated, turned the tires, and performed an alignment. In the end, Acura replaced the stock Continentals (due to a defect in the road force) to Michelin Primacy Tours and I still feel the shimmy once I get up to 50 mph. You can definitely feel it in the steering wheel. I was driving in Sport Mode and changed to Normal to see if the issue would correct itself. No such luck. I took it in a few weeks ago for an inspection before a road trip and the service manager drove it and said "yep, I feel it. I don't know what is causing it. When you bring it in for the next oil change, plan to leave it with me so we can try to pinpoint the problem." My oil life is till 60% so it's gonna be a little while, but this has been going on for about a year. I traded a 2018 Lexus RX 350 AWD because I hated the braking distance, acceleration hesitation, handling, and the seats were so dang uncomfortable (especially on long trips), but didn't have any of the issues I am experiencing with the MDX (I have been a loyal Honda/Acura customer for almost 20 years). I have already told my salesperson I want to trade out and go to the RDX ADV AWD. He's supposedly keeping an eye out for me. Please let us know what happens and I will do the same.
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Got my tires rotated, and sure enough, I got both front struts that are leaking! Hopefully Acura will cover this under warranty since I'm at 45,310 miles on the odometer.
#9
Burning Brakes
Help me understand . . . . .are you saying out of all the times you have taken your vehicle to the dealership, they never saw this? Assuming you took it to the dealership in the 16 times you said in the original thread starter. Seems a little strange no one would have noticed the leaks if the tires were ever removed for a thorough inspection to try to source your complaint.
#10
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Help me understand . . . . .are you saying out of all the times you have taken your vehicle to the dealership, they never saw this? Assuming you took it to the dealership in the 16 times you said in the original thread starter. Seems a little strange no one would have noticed the leaks if the tires were ever removed for a thorough inspection to try to source your complaint.
I found out that I have leaking struts when I politely asked the guys at Discount Tires if I can take pictures of my suspension so I can deal with Acura head on and call on their BS. And, one of the dude's working on my MDX at Discount Tire told me his fiancé's CRV is exhibiting the same issue as me.
#11
Time to find out who the Regional/District Service Manager is for your region. Reach out to that person, and have them start working the problem. Good service departments and good service managers do not run around customers like this.
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Also, would the struts from the Pilot/Odyssey be compatible for the MDX?
#13
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I cannot express how much positive customer service my Honda dealership has grown since I started taking our cars there. They are going out of their way to help me out since that I mentioned how local Acura dealer lost me as a future repeating customer. Glad I know that the local Honda dealership that can take care of customers correctly, that includes sales, service and parts departments (although these are the top three money making departments, at least they don't s*#@ [ not sure if I made that PG rated ] on customers).
#14
Welcome to my world. LOL I know exactly how you feel. I have a 2019 MDX SH-AWD Tech (non-hybrid) and have experience the very same thing 9shimmy and pulling to one side)to the point where Acura rotated, turned the tires, and performed an alignment. In the end, Acura replaced the stock Continentals (due to a defect in the road force) to Michelin Primacy Tours and I still feel the shimmy once I get up to 50 mph. You can definitely feel it in the steering wheel. I was driving in Sport Mode and changed to Normal to see if the issue would correct itself. No such luck. I took it in a few weeks ago for an inspection before a road trip and the service manager drove it and said "yep, I feel it. I don't know what is causing it. When you bring it in for the next oil change, plan to leave it with me so we can try to pinpoint the problem." My oil life is till 60% so it's gonna be a little while, but this has been going on for about a year. I traded a 2018 Lexus RX 350 AWD because I hated the braking distance, acceleration hesitation, handling, and the seats were so dang uncomfortable (especially on long trips), but didn't have any of the issues I am experiencing with the MDX (I have been a loyal Honda/Acura customer for almost 20 years). I have already told my salesperson I want to trade out and go to the RDX ADV AWD. He's supposedly keeping an eye out for me. Please let us know what happens and I will do the same.
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Just talked with the Service manager of the dealership (ironically found his number on those Google Reviews, posted by the dealership). He promised me that they will replace the leaking struts under warranty.
Get your suspension checked out, that's what I have to suggest.
Get your suspension checked out, that's what I have to suggest.
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No, not yet. I am not yet due for an oil change. But, I will make these suggestions to the SM. He is actually the one who went to bat for me to the Regional Manager and was able to get the replacement tires approved at no charge. I will definitely keep you all posted.
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Welp back to square 1. Struts are dry as heck according to all the techs and master tech and the service manager at the dealership. Freaking steering wheel shaking again at highway speeds. Acura and Discount pointing fingers at each other. Original Acura SA told me that the 2020 MDX tech wheels won't fit on my 17 MDX Tech, so swapping mine with a new MDX won't work at all according to him. Honda SA said wheels need additional weights, but his schedule is packed so he can't check my MDX. Discount told me there is no bent rims on my car.
I really need help here!
I really need help here!
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Wonder if there's an internal break in the tire belt
#21
Burning Brakes
If you are dealing with a particular dealership, they should be able to provide you with the contact information for their regional reps. However, they may be reluctant to do so. You could also use the contact info located on the acura.com website to get to client relations: https://www.acura.com/contact-us
Just click the plus symbol in the contact details field. There you have phone, fax, mail, and even Twitter info where you can tell your story.
Just click the plus symbol in the contact details field. There you have phone, fax, mail, and even Twitter info where you can tell your story.
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If you are dealing with a particular dealership, they should be able to provide you with the contact information for their regional reps. However, they may be reluctant to do so. You could also use the contact info located on the acura.com website to get to client relations: https://www.acura.com/contact-us
Just click the plus symbol in the contact details field. There you have phone, fax, mail, and even Twitter info where you can tell your story.
Just click the plus symbol in the contact details field. There you have phone, fax, mail, and even Twitter info where you can tell your story.
#23
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Just had the tire guy do a check on the tires. He did rebalanced them and rotated them too; plus, he also noticed that the tires and wheels were spinning perfect as expected. So not sure what is going on now until I get to AutoNation Acura on Saturday.
#24
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Hi again. I finally got in touch with my service manager and told him about my issues. I also told him I have read blogs where several other people have been experiencing the very same issues I am. He said that the blogs cannot be fact-checked and to not believe everything i read....lol Anyway, I am dropping it off the week of Christmas and he is going to keep it for a few days to see if they can pinpoint the problem. My oil life is still at 50%, but yesterday the shimmy was bad enough to make me consider trading my MDX for something else...How did your service visit go?
#25
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Hi again. I finally got in touch with my service manager and told him about my issues. I also told him I have read blogs where several other people have been experiencing the very same issues I am. He said that the blogs cannot be fact-checked and to not believe everything i read....lol Anyway, I am dropping it off the week of Christmas and he is going to keep it for a few days to see if they can pinpoint the problem. My oil life is still at 50%, but yesterday the shimmy was bad enough to make me consider trading my MDX for something else...How did your service visit go?
#26
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This issue came back for me. Not sure what is going on. I feel like this is a suspension issue rather than a tire issue. Which suspension part or component would cause this issue?
#27
Bent rims were my problem, Brought them to a repair shop and showed my how bad a few of them were bent. I have a 2014 MDX with blown front struts. It is very wobbly at higher speeds, the vibration is more likely coming from the wheels themselves.
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I need to go to another dealership. This dealership I went today is giving me a bunch of BS. While heading home, I noticed the issue persists even at 80-90 MPH.
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