ed_423

so, i have a grigio and IMO, its the hardest car to find wheels that matches well. so far, i found 19" Enkei GTC01 looks really good as one of the forum member has them, but those are quite expensive [ since my parents bought the car for me i would like to use my own money to mod it, i recently got a job, nothing great but hey, its a job] so anyways, i came across ASA GT1 on tirerack and they are pretty cheap. but tirerack did not show their bolt pattern and therefore i am not sure if these would fit. i researched 19" ASA GT1 and some tells me the bolt pattern is 5 x114 http://www.rsxstore.com/product.php?productid=2705

and some tells me its 5 x 112. so i am confused

and tell me how these would look on a grigio, as well as any other suggestions would be great!

and yes, i might not be getting new wheels for a while, but its never too early to do research and start saving up!

ttk5

I actually think they look really nice... and they would look great on your car. I like how theres kind of concave face to them too.

nzitr

TSX is 5x114.3.

The wheels look nice with a good offset but they are at the heavy end of the weight scale. Also they don't list the width and looking at the application (RSX) they may only be 7.5" wide.

ed_423

hmm, after doing a search on the foru, https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-tires-wheels-suspension-130/what-do-you-guys-think-asa-gt1-wheel-728982/ they say 19" is 8.5 inch. wide would that be ok?

ed_423

your right, they are a bit on the heavy end, but personally i dont mind that too mcuh, for now at least. but just wondering if 19x8.5 would be ok. if so what tire shuld fit? on tirerack when i switched my car to is250 like the https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=728982 said so, it gives me
front fitment:
19x8.5
Offset: 45mm
Backspacing: 6.49" Bolt Pattern: 5-114
Rec. Tire Size: 225/35-19
Weight: 26.6lbs.
Rear:
19x8.5
Offset: 45mm Backspacing: 6.49" Bolt Pattern: 5-114
Rec. Tire Size: 255/35-19
Weight: 26.6lbs.

any input

defconskylude

id rock those.

ed_423

lol yeah im really thinking about these, just not too sure if the size is ok. and if i order from tirerack since i chose IS250 RWD would the wheels be diff? would i be getting 4 front wheels? or just regular 2 front 2 rear. lol i know these are noob questions so please bear with me

09TSXTech

Our stock wheels are 17", PCD 5 x 114.3, ET 55

To goto 19" x 8.5 ET 45

Your inner clearance will be 3mm less (the inside of the wheel to the strut housing)- No biggie but you cannot install BBK unless you have spacers.

Your outer clearance will be 23mm more (position of the outside edge of the wheel)-ie more tuck out/your wheel will not be flush but stick out of fender so the rear may have rubbing issue.

Also, on a 8.5" wide rim, at a minimum go with 245/35/19.

defconskylude

hmmmm 19" linea corse ($1350) or 19" ASA GT1 ($800)......ASA looks better and bigger since it doesnt have a lip. damn you ed!

give tirerack a call.

find other cars that have same lug pattern 5 x 114.3

photoshop it

nzitr

19 x 8.5 with 45 offset will be fine as others are running the same size in more extreme offsets. Normal tire size choice would be 245/35/19.

However those particular wheels may not fit on the TSX given Tirerack do not list them for the TSX. I'm not sure how definitive their fitment guide is but I'd definately be checking before placing an order.

ed_423

defcon, this is for you


this is another form member's car witht he 19"Enkei GTC01, i jsut took his picture and put in the ASA, someone put the asa on a white VW gti. so i jsut took the wheels from there and put it here haha

ed_423

aw man, rubbing issues? may not fit? damnn, and i thoguht i finally found some wheels thats cheap and look good..
defcon wanan be a guinea pig and test these out for me?

09TSXTech

^The operative word here is may... The wheel will be 23mm more tuck out. Go get a tape measure and see if there's enough clearance. I am more concern with the rear especially if your car is lowered or you are planning to lower it.

ed_423

lol yes i do plan on lowering it about 1 inch with eibach pro kit. hmm, time to do some measuring i guess

CU2MIKE

you'll be fine ed. worse case scenario is that you get the fenders rolled or shaved, no biggie.

Tishkevich

iTrader: (3)

you'll have plenty of room ed don't owrry about it go for the stars!

And heavy is still my hero, wheres his answer!?

Tishkevich

iTrader: (3)

you would probably rock 4 different wheels at the same time if you had em

defconskylude

that's just crazy

defconskylude

yea i can be the guinea pig. im considering the ASA's now. i just need to find used tires that are 245/35/19.

im dropped on S-tech 1.6 rear / 1.4 front

will this rub with the +45 offset?

ill photoshop the silver ones on my car

ttk5

lmao.

just playing defcon i love your whip

MrOtocinclus

Those wheels look pretty good, I'd definitely rock them, but with something lower than the Eibachs.

BTW, which forum member's car is that? Looks freakin' sick.

09TSXTech

Funny Mrotocinclus.

Your Grigio looks great with the Enkei and Eibachs. But I won't go lower than the 1" drop for comfort as well as clearance for speed bumps.

ed_423

haha its def. yours mrotocinclus LOl

and good news from tirerack person i emailed:
Thanks for your inquiry. I spoke with our hardware support department, and they confirmed that this would be a good fitment for the vehicle. They are adding it to the list of wheels that are available. It should be listed within the next few days.

and i probably will only do about 1", just persoanl prefrence haha. at least, for now lol.

ed_423

the actaully are the bright silver paint they have, but some ppl at a VW forum said its a bit darker than the picture. which IMO looks even better with our color car, but again could jsut be picture effects and the lighting and all that.

defconskylude

nice

someone should post the minimum and maximum offsets for 19's

these are just examples.
+35 (rubbing)
+38 (rubbing)
+40 (no rubbing)
+42 (no rubbing)
+45 (no rubbing)
+48 (no rubbing)
+50 (no rubbing)

09TSXTech

defcon, that's a good chart, but you have to take into account on the width of the rim in calculating clearance.

For example: our stock rim is 17 x 7.5 ET55

19 x 7.5 ET 40 will give you 15mm more inner clearance and 15mm more outward position.

19 x 8.0 ET 40 will give you 9mm more inner clearance and 21mm more outward position.

19 x 8.5 ET 40 will give you 2mm more inner clearance and 28mm more outward position.

defconskylude

the more detailed the better and with different tire sizes

"15mm more inner clearance and 15mm more outward position" can be confusing for the novices.

the novices will simply just understand will it rub or not.

i would also think that most of us understand inches instead of mm. so we dont know right off hand the conversion between inches and mm.

its a good start for a sticky

my .02

ed_423

lmao +1 on the more detail chart, but also +1 on the novices like me would only understand if it will rub or not but its a good thing to learn. haha

09TSXTech

^Didn't mean to confuse anyone.

Go to this site for offset calculation: http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

In terms of inches and mm, the wheel diameter and width is always measured in (imperial) inches 19" x 8"; however the PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter- the diameter of a circle drawn through the center of your wheel's bolt holes) 5 x 114.3mm and ET (offset) 40mm are always measured in mm (metric).

ed_423

^ thanks! as well as everyone else. haha learned a lot. now time to start saving!

rsjapan

very interesting

SilverCU3

Don't forget centre bore when choosing rims. Honda/Acura use 64.1mm so anything more than that will fit (with adaptor rings) but anything less won't.

Regarding the original post, Lexus IS250 wheels won't fit on the hubs as they're 60.1mm centrebore.

I'm not sure it would be possible to offer a definitive fitment chart as manufacturing tolerances ensure that all cars aren't created equally. Also, the dimensions of the same nominal size of tyre will vary considerably between different manufacturers.

ed_423

i emailed tirerack and they confirmed that the wheels "are good fitment to the car"

SilverCU3

If they ARE dedicated Lexus IS250 wheels with a 60.1mm centrebore then they won't fit the TSX, regardless of what Tirerack or anyone else says. Quite simply, a 60.1mm hole will not fit over a 64.1mm spigot!

However, if they are Mazda/Mitsubishi/Nissan wheels which Tirerack are selling to fit an IS250 (with the use of adaptor rings) then they will have a larger centre bore than your TSX so yes, they will fit.

The question to ask of Tirerack is "what size is the centre bore of this wheel?"

ed_423

^ i shall email them again and ask

HeavyDuty

Tish, you're creeping me out, man.

I dunno how I missed this thread, but I'd defer to Tech and Silver in this arena.

There are wayyyy too many variables to construct a chart with diameters/widths/offsets/tire sizes/ride heights/brake differences. Holy crap!

ASA is licensed by BBS, much better than a Quasimoto spec wheel manufactured in SE Asia with no idea about the source.

I use Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct for generalities, as a stock height correct wheel/tire shouldn't scrub when lowered (within reason.)

For my own use, I prefer to look at Rays or BBS or Work, or some manufacturer like that for recommended size/offset/tire combinations. They are *spot on* 99% of the time.

HeavyDuty

SilverCU is right, but in this price point wheel, I don't know of any aftermarket manufacturer that doesn't use hubcentric rings for the application. I'm sure there are some, but high end kinda stuff. Even BBS uses what they call a PFS kit (hub rings and lug nuts) same for Rays/Volk.

Edit: *EXCEPT* for Ron Jon...

ed_423

ahh there you are heavy, tish must be happy

SilverCU3

[quote=HeavyDuty;11713583] I don't know of any aftermarket manufacturer that doesn't use hubcentric rings for the application. I'm sure there are some, but high end kinda stuff. Even BBS uses what they call a PFS kit (hub rings and lug nuts) same for Rays/Volk./quote]

That's true. There's not too much wrong with using a larger bore, as long as they're centred via an adaptor. But the problem with adaptors is:

1. If the adaptor is a good, tight fit then it will inevitably corrode onto the wheel or the hub and make it difficult to remove.

2. If it stays removable because it isn't a tight fit then it's not adequately taking up the gap, so it may as well not be there.

Regarding the IS250 wheels; if they are a generic centrebore (one size fits all) then just make sure the tyre shop installs the correct adaptors. I'm no expert on metal alloys but I'd say something made from stainless steel would be the best option as steel would corrode into the hub, and aluminium would corrode into the wheel. Plastic is a real last resort as it deforms too readily and you have to be really careful not to crush it when fitting the wheel.

There are quite a few European manufacturers who make 114.3x5 wheels with 64.1 bore but, as HD said, they tend to be high end and probably even more so for you guys as you have to import them.

RonJon wheels get my vote as they're made specifically for the application. Fit and forget!

ed_423

So I emailed the guy from tirerack and he said the center bore is 79.5mm