Hydrolocked need advice
#1
Racer
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Hydrolocked need advice
I have a tsx v6 with a dc sports cai lowered about 1.5 inches I was driving in the rain and avoiding deep puddles but then there was one I couldnt get around and I didnt think it was more than 6 inches deep at its lowest when my engine suddenly turned off and steam started to rise up from the bay. I waited until the steam stopped and let it rest for about a half hour and tried to turn it on and it made a sound for a fraction of a second and didnt turn on. So I left it over night where it was. Tomorrow I am going to get it towed to my house converting the cai to a sri draining the oil taking out the battery removing the spark pugs and leaving it completely dry for another day before putting in new oil, reinstalling the battery, and putting new spark plugs. I just wanted to know if anyone has had experience with this and can offer any further advice please and thank you. Also while I was going through the puddling the car was at 1500rpm at most if that. I am a little worried to be honest I live in socal I was never expecting to hydrolock my car.
#3
NOOOOO!!!! omg this is horrible to read. i hope she survives. the VBP's are fighters i'm telling you, mine has been through alot but she still never lets me down. if you indeed hydrolocked, the problem is that because liquids are not compressable, the piston cannot move all the way up after water comes in through the valve, and the rod ends up bending/breaking, which results in your engine being unable to turn over. you seem like you are doing the right thing. read this, seems to have amazing info. Good Luck and keep us updated buddy
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=155491.0
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=155491.0
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justnspace (04-14-2012)
#5
Everyone should read and heed the advice in the Mazda article.
Trying to start your car after it shut down following a water event is the kiss of death for an engine. Like Pyromaniac said, water doesn't compress so something has to break.
Remove your spark plugs and see if there is evidence of water in the cylinders. If there is then you need professional help since this isn't anything that you can DIY.
Now, a post from me wouldn't be a post by me if it didn't include some unsolicited advice that you don't want to hear.
Let's assume for a moment that some little fly by night company can design an air intake that actually increases performance and let's discount the fact that a CAI is actually a Hot Air Intake if it sucks in air closer to the pavement than stock.
At the same time you lower your car so you have to drive carefully dodging potholes and puddles.
What does the imaginary horsepower gain from the "CAI" bring you?
This is a prime example of those unintended consequences I keep talking about.
Good luck and please keep us posted.
Trying to start your car after it shut down following a water event is the kiss of death for an engine. Like Pyromaniac said, water doesn't compress so something has to break.
Remove your spark plugs and see if there is evidence of water in the cylinders. If there is then you need professional help since this isn't anything that you can DIY.
Now, a post from me wouldn't be a post by me if it didn't include some unsolicited advice that you don't want to hear.
Let's assume for a moment that some little fly by night company can design an air intake that actually increases performance and let's discount the fact that a CAI is actually a Hot Air Intake if it sucks in air closer to the pavement than stock.
At the same time you lower your car so you have to drive carefully dodging potholes and puddles.
What does the imaginary horsepower gain from the "CAI" bring you?
This is a prime example of those unintended consequences I keep talking about.
Good luck and please keep us posted.
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Robert4 (04-15-2012)
#6
Burning Brakes
I hope you only fouled the plugs.
#7
that REALLY SUCKS!! I have 2 friends who have hydrolocked their cars before and both have had to replace their motors. I dont know if you can repair yours but you may have to do the same...
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#8
ROTAREDOM
This is VERY sad... Hope you don't have to get a new engine.
#9
SeeYou2Crew #2
Let's bring some new hope for the op.
My friend hydrolocked his g37 twice. He just let it idle for few hours and it works again
But if you can't even start it, you might have to check the inside
My friend hydrolocked his g37 twice. He just let it idle for few hours and it works again
But if you can't even start it, you might have to check the inside
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Racer
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Does anyone know what size spark plugs the tsx veesix takes? I will keep everyone updated I am not sure what to even do if I lost the engine...
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#15
Racer
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SHE RUNS!
she threw up codes said something about VSA and check emissions does anyone know that this could possibly mean? I had it towed im thinking that might be the cause of the vsa
she threw up codes said something about VSA and check emissions does anyone know that this could possibly mean? I had it towed im thinking that might be the cause of the vsa
#16
so tell us, exactly what did you do/have done?
check emissions could be if the water was pushed up by the piston, and splashed through the exhaust valve and hit the 02 sensor or something? not sure. could just be aftershock. make sure to cycle extra oil through it to get all the water out, also might want to do a tranny fluid flush. new plugs, the whole deal, gonna be alot cheaper than missing something and the water failing soon
check emissions could be if the water was pushed up by the piston, and splashed through the exhaust valve and hit the 02 sensor or something? not sure. could just be aftershock. make sure to cycle extra oil through it to get all the water out, also might want to do a tranny fluid flush. new plugs, the whole deal, gonna be alot cheaper than missing something and the water failing soon
#17
Racer
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Changed the oil and filter once so far (I plan to do another change tomorrow) then ran the car with the spark plugs out and water shot out of where the spark plugs go cleaned off the spark plugs let them dry for a few hours put them in. Turned the car on to see of it would run and it did but I got a check emissions light and check vsa light but it turned on the engine sounded good no scraping or any bad sounds it idled normally then I turned it off.
#18
check the price of spark plugs, may be worth it to replace them and not worry about ones that you have let dry. idk if it matters but i'd do it to be safe.
tomorrow when you change it, pull the plug, drain it, run a couple extra quarts through it, make sure its all out, then change the filter, use a new crushable washer, and fill up the oil. beside that just follow the rest of the instructions in the first thread i posted. hopefully your good after that! change your oil again in 500-1000 miles
tomorrow when you change it, pull the plug, drain it, run a couple extra quarts through it, make sure its all out, then change the filter, use a new crushable washer, and fill up the oil. beside that just follow the rest of the instructions in the first thread i posted. hopefully your good after that! change your oil again in 500-1000 miles
#19
Racer
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Its not the price its that for some reason they have to be special ordered at my auto parts store i also got some heet to add to my gas tank to absorb any moisture in the engine.
#21
ROTAREDOM
Nice, computers on cars are so advanced now... it can tell when something is wrong and shuts off before it does anymore damage! Good job Honda!
#22
Racer
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She runs great gunna drive her for about 30 miles and then change the oil again all the codes are gone and for those who say dont DIY I say learn to get your hands dirty because with a little luck, some hard work, advice from friends and the forums almost anything can be fixed oh and a socket wrench kit. Yes I had water in the cylinders but I do believe that Honda's programming saved me by shutting off the engine before any damage could occur. I was lucky very lucky and remember kids CAIs are bad mmmkay
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Yes!
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ed_423 (04-20-2012)
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Burning Brakes
heart warming story
#28
Spooky story.
Maybe the Mass Air Flow sensor pulled the alarm and shut down the engine before any serious damage could be done.
For the I4, the CTE intake is safer as it has the filter in a box in the engine bay like the stock and only a duct goes down to suck air.
Maybe the Mass Air Flow sensor pulled the alarm and shut down the engine before any serious damage could be done.
For the I4, the CTE intake is safer as it has the filter in a box in the engine bay like the stock and only a duct goes down to suck air.
#30
Racer
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and yea from now on never doing a CAI in any of my cars 3-4hp isnt worth the stress I went through
#33
Instructor
I had problems in my Mazda because of a CAI. I hit a puddle and washed out the MAF, but the CAI caused a bunch of other emissions issues. $400 and 3 weeks later I got my car back, and will never have another CAI.
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