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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 12:23 PM
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Recommanded H.I.D set for our TSX.

Hi,


I want to buy and install an H.I.D kit on my 2012 Base TSX.


Wich brand/kit would you recommend me with your experience ?


Thank you all members for your help.




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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 12:47 PM
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For the projectors? I'd recommend nothing. They're beautiful the way they are.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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For the projectors? I'd recommend nothing. They're beautiful the way they are.
The OP is in Canada where HIDs are not standard - but - there is no legal or proper way of retrofitting HIDs unless you buy the US OE parts.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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I would agree with ceb and outfit/retrofit your TSX to OEM US specs assuming that is permissable in Canada.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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Hi guys,


Yes, here in Canada, on the Base TSX we have projector with halogen bulb. The premium model/tech package does have the H.I.D kit.


So you are telling me that I can't install H.I.D in my halogen projector?
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 01:44 PM
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Ah, good point ceb. I completely forgot about that point, because since 2013 (maybe even sooner), even the Base model TSX in Canada came with leather, roof, and HIDs.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Glepage22
Hi guys,


Yes, here in Canada, on the Base TSX we have projector with halogen bulb. The premium model/tech package does have the H.I.D kit.


So you are telling me that I can't install H.I.D in my halogen projector?
you can, however, it may be against the law.
if you're fine with breaking the law, head to www.theretrofitsource.com
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by xtcnrice
Ah, good point ceb. I completely forgot about that point, because since 2013 (maybe even sooner), even the Base model TSX in Canada came with leather, roof, and HIDs.


Nice! I didn't know that. In 2012, we got everything except leather and HID in the base model.
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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
you can, however, it may be against the law.
if you're fine with breaking the law, head to www.theretrofitsource.com
Aside from being against the law, you cannot put an HID bulb into a halogen projector and expect it to work properly.

A bit of reading for the OP
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 07:37 AM
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plan on getting these
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...cbi-49196.html

heard they work like a beaut
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by soupi
plan on getting these
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...cbi-49196.html

heard they work like a beaut
You, soupi, have HID's already in your car and you are merely changing the bulbs . In the process you are degrading your vision, but that is beside the point.

More importantly, your post has nothing to do with the OP's question. The OP is asking for an apple and you're saying "I'm going to get some green beans".

I understand that English isn't your native language but please don't go around confusing other posters.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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instead of trying to criticize someone in order to make yourself feel good about yourself, offer advice..

buy ballest and go with these bulbs glepage, you wont regret it.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by soupi
instead of trying to criticize someone in order to make yourself feel good about yourself, offer advice..

buy ballest and go with these bulbs glepage, you wont regret it.
You still don't get it. You CANNOT just put a HID bulb into a halogen housing (ballast or not) and have it work.

Read my link. Nobody is criticizing you, but you are talking about things you know nothing about.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 12:01 AM
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ceb otoh, knows everything
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by xtcnrice
ceb otoh, knows everything
Maybe not, but I DO know lighting and regs. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

The difference is, I just don't jump into a thread if I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
you can, however, it may be against the law.
if you're fine with breaking the law, head to www.theretrofitsource.com
cuz nobody ever speeds either right?



Ceb, do you know Canadian regs as well?

....and honestly I trust retrofitsource over daniel stern (old school).

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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
cuz nobody ever speeds either right?



Ceb, do you know Canadian regs as well?

....and honestly I trust retrofitsource over daniel stern (old school).
Canadian regs (with very minor exceptions - speedo must have main scale in KM, minor in MPH while the US is opposite - and the mandatory DRLs in Canada) are identical to US regs. Aside from the aforementioned DRLs, the Canadian lighting regs are a virtual carbon copy of the US regs.

I'm not a big fan of DanielSternLighting but he does have accurate information all in one spot. The retrofitsource, OTOH, sells products that cannot comply with the laws of physics and still produce an acceptable light pattern.
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ceb
The retrofitsource, OTOH, sells products that cannot comply with the laws of physics and still produce an acceptable light pattern.
an unacceptable light pattern to you, but there's lots of satisfied retrofitsource customers out there....they sell some of the best high quality projector retrofits...giving a super sharp/focused cutoff (much better for example the OEM 2G TSX's projector).

....And if you're gonna retrofit an HID kit, they don't sell junk.
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
an unacceptable light pattern to you, but there's lots of satisfied retrofitsource customers out there....they sell some of the best high quality projector retrofits...giving a super sharp/focused cutoff (much better for example the OEM 2G TSX's projector).

....And if you're gonna retrofit an HID kit, they don't sell junk.
No - it is an unacceptable light pattern to the regulators in every country that regulates lighting.

If you believe that a bunch of guys selling cobbled together bits and pieces can do a better job of building a lighting system than the OEs that spend millions designing and testing this stuff then I've got a bridge to sell you.

An ignorant customer can easily be a satisfied customer.
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Now let us consider something that is irrefutable. In their "terms and conditions" they state (bolding mine):

"you should be aware that all modification to headlights may put them out of compliance with regulatory laws governing vehicle lighting in your city/state/country and therefore the products we sell are designed for off-road use only."

We also now that the term "for off road use only" is not recognized under the law and there have been numerous rulings that if an item can be installed on an otherwise street legal car, then those items must comply with all applicable laws.

One day theretrofitsource will get a letter from the NHTSA lawyers and they'll fade away like APC.

Retrofit HID bulbs are illegal because they do not comply with the laws of physics.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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LMAO - do you know when US lighting regulations were created...

1948?? LOL

Funny, even my sheriff's constable buddy installed an HID kit on his truck.

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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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from an actual police officer....

When I stop a car with suspect headlights I hold a piece of white paper in front of the light. If the paper turns blue, that is illegal and driver gets "Norked" (gets a ticket). See the following NHTSA Interp letter at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...18.ztv.html-It says, "SAE J578c defines white by blue, yellow, green, red and purple boundaries within a chromaticity diagram. Thus, it is possible to design a headlamp that emits a light that approaches the blue boundary and is perceived as having a blue tint but which nevertheless remains within the boundaries that define "white"".

As far as what state you live in it does not matter. All states light laws follow FMVSS 108 for the basic MV lights.
BTW running a 5000K bulb for my low beams
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
LMAO - do you know when US lighting regulations were created...

1948?? LOL

Funny, even my sheriff's constable buddy installed an HID kit on his truck.
Created and updated are two different things. The US had one of the first lighting standards but they've been updated frequently ever since - if not, then we wouldn't have halogen, HID or LED headlights in our cars today. A statement like that just shows ignorance.

And just because a constable installed aftermarket HIDs doesn't mean it is right. Cops do stupid and illegal things all the time - or haven't you been watching TV in the last few weeks?

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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
from an actual police officer....



BTW running a 5000K bulb for my low beams
And your point is??? While 5000k is on the blue'ish side, it still falls within the definition of "white" - but your beam scatters and you aren't focusing light properly. Oncoming traffic want to take a baseball bat to your headlights.

Pre-facelift current MB E series use a 5100k bulb which meets all regs. Anything from about 4100k to 5400k should be OK - but - there is so much more than color temp and cutoff to a proper lighting unit.

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but I side with ceb.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Wow guys, didn't saw that my topic was going this way. I have read all of you and don't get wrong, I know that I can't put H.I.D kit in an halogen headlamp! Have a nice day guys.
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