Low oil
02-03-2013, 04:25 PM
#121
Thanks... I have a feeling that may be a problem no matter what they do it will always burn oil. After my warranty is up I will be vigilant checking the oil. In the meantime, as long as it's covered under powertrain, let them do whatever they can to diagnose and fix the problem.
02-11-2013, 01:09 AM
#122
Interesting read.. My oil warning indicator came on the other day after a fast turn too. Come to find out I'm missing 0.5-0.75qt of oil. Pretty normal though since I've been experiencing this with the car since I first got it back in 2010 even after the TSB as well. I guess our motors simply just burn oil on occasions? 
02-11-2013, 02:33 PM
#123
10th Gear
It's not an issue. Especially if the light doesn't stay on. I was getting the same thing, except it was @ 6,900 miles (no oil change had been done). I'm sure it consumes oil but not that much.
02-17-2013, 09:12 PM
#125
So does anyone know if Acura issued an official TSB on this? It seems that replacing the piston ring "may" be a solution. I'd really like to see this TSB. ALso, is running on low oil hurt your engine? After 4000-5000 miles, the low oil indicator light pops up more often and makes more rattling sound especially when I start the engine.
02-18-2013, 07:11 PM
#126
Interesting read.. My oil warning indicator came on the other day after a fast turn too. Come to find out I'm missing 0.5-0.75qt of oil. Pretty normal though since I've been experiencing this with the car since I first got it back in 2010 even after the TSB as well. I guess our motors simply just burn oil on occasions?
02-19-2013, 07:47 AM
#127
So does anyone know if Acura issued an official TSB on this? It seems that replacing the piston ring "may" be a solution. I'd really like to see this TSB. ALso, is running on low oil hurt your engine? After 4000-5000 miles, the low oil indicator light pops up more often and makes more rattling sound especially when I start the engine.
Of course running on low oil will hurt your engine.
02-28-2013, 10:41 AM
#128
update... Did my 1000 mile test. Doesn't appear the car has burned any oil or ver very little. Still getting the rattle on cold startup. Dealer says it's the valves needing adjustment. Does it take 6000 plus miles for new piston and rings on a honed block to settle???? It's just about ready for an oil change. I'm just confused at this point. I'm not clueless when it comes to cars. Did a few motor swaps on my Nissan before this car.
03-01-2013, 01:18 PM
#129
FINALLY ACURA ISSUED A TSB FOR THIS! It's TSB 13-006 released last week! 2009–10 TSX: Sticking Rings Resulting in Unusually High Engine Oil seems to be the issue only applicable to manual transmission. The flat rate time is 11.2 hours which means that the dealer will be charging over $1000! I have 110,000 miles so no warranty for me. Any recommendation what I should do? Pay $1000 and get it fixed or just live with it? I'd really hate to add oil every 1000 miles.
03-01-2013, 01:39 PM
#130
Racer
Sticking rings, eh? Rings should be freely moving in their grooves, up/down and rotating around. Hard break-in should take care of that, but that's a contraversial topic.
I'm at 13K+ and the little consumption I was seeing at first seems to have stopped. I'm 3K+ into this oil change and I have not topped it off. I change the oil at around 5K intervals so far (yes, I know), use Honda 0w20 oil and Honda filter. I rev the piss out of the thing, probably close to half of my shifts in lower gears are at 5K+.
Stan
I'm at 13K+ and the little consumption I was seeing at first seems to have stopped. I'm 3K+ into this oil change and I have not topped it off. I change the oil at around 5K intervals so far (yes, I know), use Honda 0w20 oil and Honda filter. I rev the piss out of the thing, probably close to half of my shifts in lower gears are at 5K+.
Stan
03-01-2013, 09:06 PM
#131
FINALLY ACURA ISSUED A TSB FOR THIS! It's TSB 13-006 released last week! 2009–10 TSX: Sticking Rings Resulting in Unusually High Engine Oil seems to be the issue only applicable to manual transmission. The flat rate time is 11.2 hours which means that the dealer will be charging over $1000! I have 110,000 miles so no warranty for me. Any recommendation what I should do? Pay $1000 and get it fixed or just live with it? I'd really hate to add oil every 1000 miles.
03-15-2013, 12:54 PM
#132
Intermediate
Does anyone know where we can view more information regarding this TSB?
My car started flashing the low oil light also during cornering shortly after 7,000 miles. I dont gun-it in my vehicle, 2012 TSX SE Manual. Purchased brand new from dealer, 175 miles on it. It hasnt gotten its first oil change yet either.
I took it in to have it insepcted and they said no leaks were found. They topped it off with 1.3 quarts of oil. At the time this occurred it read 40% life left in it.
I'll go in probably early Monday to have the oil changed and probably start the oil consumption testing...
Also, when they checked the dipstick, it barely had any oil on the end of it. Of course I already knew this which is why I brought to the dealer in the first place. Again, to have it on record/file.
My car started flashing the low oil light also during cornering shortly after 7,000 miles. I dont gun-it in my vehicle, 2012 TSX SE Manual. Purchased brand new from dealer, 175 miles on it. It hasnt gotten its first oil change yet either.
I took it in to have it insepcted and they said no leaks were found. They topped it off with 1.3 quarts of oil. At the time this occurred it read 40% life left in it.
I'll go in probably early Monday to have the oil changed and probably start the oil consumption testing...
Also, when they checked the dipstick, it barely had any oil on the end of it. Of course I already knew this which is why I brought to the dealer in the first place. Again, to have it on record/file.
Last edited by CaGui1223; 03-15-2013 at 12:56 PM. Reason: Added comment
03-15-2013, 12:59 PM
#133
Does anyone know where we can view more information regarding this TSB?
My car started flashing the low oil light also during cornering shortly after 7,000 miles. I dont gun-it in my vehicle, 2012 TSX SE Manual. Purchased brand new from dealer, 175 miles on it. It hasnt gotten its first oil change yet either.
I took it in to have it insepcted and they said no leaks were found. They topped it off with 1.3 quarts of oil. At the time this occurred it read 40% life left in it.
I'll go in probably early Monday to have the oil changed and probably start the oil consumption testing...
Also, when they checked the dipstick, it barely had any oil on the end of it. Of course I already knew this which is why I brought to the dealer in the first place. Again, to have it on record/file.
My car started flashing the low oil light also during cornering shortly after 7,000 miles. I dont gun-it in my vehicle, 2012 TSX SE Manual. Purchased brand new from dealer, 175 miles on it. It hasnt gotten its first oil change yet either.
I took it in to have it insepcted and they said no leaks were found. They topped it off with 1.3 quarts of oil. At the time this occurred it read 40% life left in it.
I'll go in probably early Monday to have the oil changed and probably start the oil consumption testing...
Also, when they checked the dipstick, it barely had any oil on the end of it. Of course I already knew this which is why I brought to the dealer in the first place. Again, to have it on record/file.
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03-25-2013, 09:46 AM
#134
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I also had the same issue where my oil light indicator would flash on and off at times and I would her a rattling noise when i started my car. My 2009 TSX has 67800 miles on it and Acura completed 6 oil consumption test and determined to replace all 4 pistons, 4 rings and gasket. For the reattling noise they replaced the VTC actuator. My car was still under the extended warranty I purchased. Thank god. Hopefully this helps someone else.
03-27-2013, 07:01 PM
#136
Advanced
So I got back from Acura today after talking to the regional manager and since the TSB was indicated for manual transmission only, it seems my automatic was a candidate. I had a couple oil consumption tests and which after 3k miles they would stop and say it was fine. I live in San Antonio and service at Gunn Acura Service advisors name is Thomas. Im so excited, parts should be in next week and on for surgery!
04-12-2013, 08:19 AM
#137
I will be dropping off my car this coming Monday to perform the TSB B13-006. Hopefully, this will solve this issue! My car has 110,000 miles. Would this be a good time to replace the timing chain and water pump? Any other services that I should do when taking out the engine? Any suggestion would be great!
04-12-2013, 04:57 PM
#138
I will be dropping off my car this coming Monday to perform the TSB B13-006. Hopefully, this will solve this issue! My car has 110,000 miles. Would this be a good time to replace the timing chain and water pump? Any other services that I should do when taking out the engine? Any suggestion would be great!
04-13-2013, 06:54 PM
#139
So I got back from Acura today after talking to the regional manager and since the TSB was indicated for manual transmission only, it seems my automatic was a candidate. I had a couple oil consumption tests and which after 3k miles they would stop and say it was fine. I live in San Antonio and service at Gunn Acura Service advisors name is Thomas. Im so excited, parts should be in next week and on for surgery!
05-03-2013, 06:26 AM
#140
Does anyone know where we can view more information regarding this TSB?
My car started flashing the low oil light also during cornering shortly after 7,000 miles. I dont gun-it in my vehicle, 2012 TSX SE Manual. Purchased brand new from dealer, 175 miles on it. It hasnt gotten its first oil change yet either.
I took it in to have it insepcted and they said no leaks were found. They topped it off with 1.3 quarts of oil. At the time this occurred it read 40% life left in it.
I'll go in probably early Monday to have the oil changed and probably start the oil consumption testing...
Also, when they checked the dipstick, it barely had any oil on the end of it. Of course I already knew this which is why I brought to the dealer in the first place. Again, to have it on record/file.
My car started flashing the low oil light also during cornering shortly after 7,000 miles. I dont gun-it in my vehicle, 2012 TSX SE Manual. Purchased brand new from dealer, 175 miles on it. It hasnt gotten its first oil change yet either.
I took it in to have it insepcted and they said no leaks were found. They topped it off with 1.3 quarts of oil. At the time this occurred it read 40% life left in it.
I'll go in probably early Monday to have the oil changed and probably start the oil consumption testing...
Also, when they checked the dipstick, it barely had any oil on the end of it. Of course I already knew this which is why I brought to the dealer in the first place. Again, to have it on record/file.
05-03-2013, 10:15 AM
#142
i got the TSB B13-006 done last week. It took the dealer about 1.5 weeks. I also replaced the VTC actuator due to the rattling noise at cold start up for the second time! I never thought an Acura would have this many issues! Hopefully now, I can rest in peace.
05-04-2013, 09:34 AM
#143
Advanced
Today will be the day I finally get her back. I mentioned previously that Acura was going to fix my oil consumption even though automatic wasn't listed in TSB. It has been a month now as of today Saturday May 4th. The process took 1.5 weeks turns out when i receive the car it lost oil pressure... So here I am 2 weeks later going to get her. What a shame, i hope they have the GM and VP waiting aside my car waiting to take me on a high speed test drive.
Hope nothing else is wrong.
Hope nothing else is wrong.
05-04-2013, 09:58 AM
#144
So far since my rebuild and the vtc replaced I've had zero issues. I'm about 3000 miles into this oil change and it doesn't appear to have burned any oil. Take it easy on the car the first 1000 miles or so.
05-04-2013, 12:55 PM
#145
Advanced
yeah I just got done washing the vehicle, looks like they threw my front bumper when they took it off. Other than that, motor feels tight, good compression and I got a new armrest from a TSB for it being loose.
05-06-2013, 03:23 PM
#147
My 2009 TSX lost 1.5 quarts over 7000 miles (only had one oil change done at the same dealer I bought it CPO from). Apparently that doesn't qualify for the piston ring fix per the TSB specs, but they are having me do an oil consumption test anyways. Problem is I'm 7000 miles away from the end of the general warranty. Would repairs that fall under the oil consumption TSB be covered by the 7/100k powertrain warranty??
The best part - they were already doing engine work to replace the VTC actuator. Once that was done they noticed a weird sound. Turns out the timing chain was stretched. They replaced it and the timing gears for free under warranty. The kicker is the service adviser said it was probably due to the low oil. So the oil isn't low enough to qualify for the oil consumption fix, but it is low enough to mess up the timing chain?? What??
The best part - they were already doing engine work to replace the VTC actuator. Once that was done they noticed a weird sound. Turns out the timing chain was stretched. They replaced it and the timing gears for free under warranty. The kicker is the service adviser said it was probably due to the low oil. So the oil isn't low enough to qualify for the oil consumption fix, but it is low enough to mess up the timing chain?? What??
07-05-2013, 11:16 AM
#148
10th Gear
05' Manual here. Driving home last night oil light started flashing so I pulled into a gas station. oil was bone dry. This is a newer car for me and man I miss my 97 integra that could go 6k between oil changes. No reason a car should consume this amount of oil, especially when my last oil change was 3100 miles ago. Thinking about trading this thing in at this point.
07-05-2013, 02:29 PM
#149
05' Manual here. Driving home last night oil light started flashing so I pulled into a gas station. oil was bone dry. This is a newer car for me and man I miss my 97 integra that could go 6k between oil changes. No reason a car should consume this amount of oil, especially when my last oil change was 3100 miles ago. Thinking about trading this thing in at this point.
I'm still confident that most don't use any or much oil, but there are reports here of cars that do. You may have one of those. The manual cars seem to be more prone to be the oil users (are as the earlier cars from Canada).
07-05-2013, 08:39 PM
#150
My 2009 TSX lost 1.5 quarts over 7000 miles (only had one oil change done at the same dealer I bought it CPO from). Apparently that doesn't qualify for the piston ring fix per the TSB specs, but they are having me do an oil consumption test anyways. Problem is I'm 7000 miles away from the end of the general warranty. Would repairs that fall under the oil consumption TSB be covered by the 7/100k powertrain warranty??
The best part - they were already doing engine work to replace the VTC actuator. Once that was done they noticed a weird sound. Turns out the timing chain was stretched. They replaced it and the timing gears for free under warranty. The kicker is the service adviser said it was probably due to the low oil. So the oil isn't low enough to qualify for the oil consumption fix, but it is low enough to mess up the timing chain?? What??
The best part - they were already doing engine work to replace the VTC actuator. Once that was done they noticed a weird sound. Turns out the timing chain was stretched. They replaced it and the timing gears for free under warranty. The kicker is the service adviser said it was probably due to the low oil. So the oil isn't low enough to qualify for the oil consumption fix, but it is low enough to mess up the timing chain?? What??
07-05-2013, 10:28 PM
#151
Intermediate
Mine definitely burns a little oil. I've also had the problem with my oil light coming on when taking a turn, even a couple thousand after a change. Mine is an 09 MT though. I'll probably take it in to get looked at when I can afford it haha.
07-31-2013, 12:55 AM
#152
8th Gear
Hey gang.
Got a question. I've had my car for 2 months and a little under 3K miles now (2012 SE 6sp), bought new. Today, I noticed a chime real quick when I went around a couple of sharp turns (pulling into work parking lot, driveway, etc), but didn't see anything on the screen or dash to indicate what it was, so I thought it might be the podcast I was listening to... until I got home and pulled into my driveway. As I was turning into my driveway, I got the ding, and saw the "low oil" message pop up and shut off as soon as I was done turning.
So, I figure the oil is just low enough to be triggering that sensor on sharp turns, and it was shutting off so fast that I never saw anything pop up earlier. The car has never done this before and, according to the oil life meter, is at 80% remaining. Checking the dipstick after I got home, however, shows the oil is indeed very low.
I'll call the service department in the morning, but at this point, there are 3 possibilities.
1. It's leaking oil.
2. It was never full.
3. It's consuming oil.
1 Can be ruled right out. No evidence of leaking oil under the car, in my driveway, etc. 2 I seriously doubt. These things are automatically filled when assembled, and should be checked and rechecked during PDI and delivery (though I never checked it myself). That leaves 3. And, if it's 3, I'm going to be seriously pissed. This is a brand new car. There's no way that this should consume any oil, let alone enough to warrant a low oil warning in less than 3K miles of highway driving. I rarely even go above 5K. This car is replacing a 2004 Mazda3 that I've had since new, and it's got almost 170K on it, and doesn't burn 1 drop of oil. I am not hard on my cars.
I read something about a TSB or recall out there for oil consumption on the MT cars, but that looks to have been for the 09-11 models; I can't find anything saying this applies to 2012 models. In fact, I can't seem to find anything (on this site) for issues with 2012 cars at all.
So, anyone got any ideas or similar experiences with a 2012 MT sucking up oil? Like I said, I'll call the dealer first thing in the morning, but I'm pretty annoyed right now. Sucking up enough oil to trigger the low oil warning in such low mileage in a brand new car is completely unacceptable to me.
Got a question. I've had my car for 2 months and a little under 3K miles now (2012 SE 6sp), bought new. Today, I noticed a chime real quick when I went around a couple of sharp turns (pulling into work parking lot, driveway, etc), but didn't see anything on the screen or dash to indicate what it was, so I thought it might be the podcast I was listening to... until I got home and pulled into my driveway. As I was turning into my driveway, I got the ding, and saw the "low oil" message pop up and shut off as soon as I was done turning.
So, I figure the oil is just low enough to be triggering that sensor on sharp turns, and it was shutting off so fast that I never saw anything pop up earlier. The car has never done this before and, according to the oil life meter, is at 80% remaining. Checking the dipstick after I got home, however, shows the oil is indeed very low.
I'll call the service department in the morning, but at this point, there are 3 possibilities.
1. It's leaking oil.
2. It was never full.
3. It's consuming oil.
1 Can be ruled right out. No evidence of leaking oil under the car, in my driveway, etc. 2 I seriously doubt. These things are automatically filled when assembled, and should be checked and rechecked during PDI and delivery (though I never checked it myself). That leaves 3. And, if it's 3, I'm going to be seriously pissed. This is a brand new car. There's no way that this should consume any oil, let alone enough to warrant a low oil warning in less than 3K miles of highway driving. I rarely even go above 5K. This car is replacing a 2004 Mazda3 that I've had since new, and it's got almost 170K on it, and doesn't burn 1 drop of oil. I am not hard on my cars.
I read something about a TSB or recall out there for oil consumption on the MT cars, but that looks to have been for the 09-11 models; I can't find anything saying this applies to 2012 models. In fact, I can't seem to find anything (on this site) for issues with 2012 cars at all.
So, anyone got any ideas or similar experiences with a 2012 MT sucking up oil? Like I said, I'll call the dealer first thing in the morning, but I'm pretty annoyed right now. Sucking up enough oil to trigger the low oil warning in such low mileage in a brand new car is completely unacceptable to me.
07-31-2013, 10:16 PM
#153
I purchased my 2010 TSX auto about 2 months ago. A couple of weeks ago I noticed the same thing, my oil light light flashed really quick going around a mcdonalds drive through. I parked and checked it to see it was a little low (touching the bottom dot). I put a 3/4 qt and hasnt done it again. I drive it kind of hard sometimes so I guess I can understand it being a little low? I'll just have to keep my eye on it i guess.
07-31-2013, 11:20 PM
#154
Intermediate
I had this issue when I purchased my 2009 TSX manual. I didn't expect a newer car to consume oil, but my Acura did. It consumed a quart every 3k miles. I called the dealer about 8 months ago and they told me I had to do a software update to fix the problem. I did the tsb engine reflash that Acura came out to fix the problem and it hasn't consumed oil since.
Only problem I have, is that with the software update, it made my car noticeably slower on the lower rpm range between 1k to 3.5k. I first noticed this the first fifteen minutes of driving my car back home when the dealer returned it to me from installing the update. I was perplexed by the fact that I had to give it more gas to accelerate the way it did prior to the update. It still has the same kick at higher rpms, but I hate having to accelerate at higher rpms to get the same amount of torque that it had prior to the reflash. Called the dealer back to let them know that I wasn't happy with the change in power, but the service manager said that it shouldn't be noticeable. I asked if they can reflash it to the prior software and they said no.
Long story short, this is the one thing I wish I did not do to my tsx. I don't mind adding a quart of oil to keep the power I had before. I was used to adding oil all the time in my prior bmw's. One of the major reasons I bought my Acura, was for the amount of power it had. Now it feels sluggish and I'm quit irritated by this. Have any other fellow tsx members done this update, and notice a difference in power?
Only problem I have, is that with the software update, it made my car noticeably slower on the lower rpm range between 1k to 3.5k. I first noticed this the first fifteen minutes of driving my car back home when the dealer returned it to me from installing the update. I was perplexed by the fact that I had to give it more gas to accelerate the way it did prior to the update. It still has the same kick at higher rpms, but I hate having to accelerate at higher rpms to get the same amount of torque that it had prior to the reflash. Called the dealer back to let them know that I wasn't happy with the change in power, but the service manager said that it shouldn't be noticeable. I asked if they can reflash it to the prior software and they said no.
Long story short, this is the one thing I wish I did not do to my tsx. I don't mind adding a quart of oil to keep the power I had before. I was used to adding oil all the time in my prior bmw's. One of the major reasons I bought my Acura, was for the amount of power it had. Now it feels sluggish and I'm quit irritated by this. Have any other fellow tsx members done this update, and notice a difference in power?
08-01-2013, 09:54 AM
#155
Racer
Hi all, just an update..
It's been almost a year since I got my engine ripped apart and my pistons replaced (a second time).
Now, no more "low oil" two to three times between oil changes. It's perfect.
I would definitely suggest any 6mts with this issue to get it checked out --get the oil consumption test and if the dealer refuses to help, go to the next one. Someone will help you
It's been almost a year since I got my engine ripped apart and my pistons replaced (a second time).
Now, no more "low oil" two to three times between oil changes. It's perfect.
I would definitely suggest any 6mts with this issue to get it checked out --get the oil consumption test and if the dealer refuses to help, go to the next one. Someone will help you
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10-29-2013, 12:30 AM
#156
What did you end up paying?
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