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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 10:02 PM
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Lighting help...what to get.

Wanting your guys opinions on lights. I want to replace my DRL and Fogs on my TSX and my headlights, DRL and Fogs on my Honda Pilot. I was looking at getting the Nokya Cosmic White for the headlights, DRL, and then the Hyper yellow for the fogs. I have heard that some lights you can lose visibility or usable light which I really don’t want to do, but would like a whiter looking light for the headlights on the Pilot. Thanks for the help guys!

http://mtqinc.com/nokyausa/headlights/cw/cw.php
http://mtqinc.com/nokyausa/headlights/hy/hy.php
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:02 AM
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IDK about the DRL but if you're looking for more light output I'd definitely go with a quality 4300K HID kit for the Pilot's headlights (be careful because the headlights are reflectors, right? you need to make sure the kit has quality shield(s) to prevent glare).

If you need more light than that, do HID kits for the fogs too.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:06 AM
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For your reading pleasure

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...e/bad/bad.html

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...fog_lamps.html

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
IDK about the DRL but if you're looking for more light output I'd definitely go with a quality 4300K HID kit for the Pilot's headlights (be careful because the headlights are reflectors, right? you need to make sure the kit has quality shield(s) to prevent glare).

If you need more light than that, do HID kits for the fogs too.
Uhhh, NO.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

Why is this forum so clueless about lighting?
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ceb
Uhhh, NO.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

Why is this forum so clueless about lighting?
LOL!! clueless???? speak for yourself....it can be done correctly. I've upgraded to HID kits on many reflector headlights....just needs to be done correctly. Never had anyone flash me AT ALL!!!

even Acura produced reflector HID headlights.

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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
LOL!! clueless???? speak for yourself....it can be done correctly. I've upgraded to HID kits on many reflector headlights....just needs to be done correctly. Never had anyone flash me AT ALL!!!

even Acura produced reflector HID headlights.
Just because you've shoved a HID bulb into a halogen housing doesn't mean that it was done right.

Early HID designs used all sorts of reflector and projector designs, but neither is a "one-size-fits-all". Many people think that a projector housing is a projector housing and that just isn't true. The bulb design needs to be matched to the housing design and there is no current HID bulb designed for a reflector housing.

All aftermarket conversions use some variant of HID bulbs designed for HID projector housings (yes Virginia, there are halogen bulbs designed for projector housings) that are unsuited for any reflector housing.

There is no aftermarket retrofit that works properly - period. Because of that, there is no aftermarket conversion that is legal - in any first world country.

Your statement about retrofitting HIDs into fog light housings clearly shows that you should do additional research about lighting.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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There is no aftermarket retrofit that works properly - period. Because of that, there is no aftermarket conversion that is legal - in any first world country.

Your statement about retrofitting HIDs into fog light housings clearly shows that you should do additional research about lighting.
I don't design headlight housing and neither do you, right? My applications of HID kits have worked 100% perfect (after trial and error) and again I'll say I've never been flashed, ticketed, warned, etc, etc.

OP ----- 1000s of HID are sold and installed daily, don't get scared off so easy -- lotsa of people on this forum have also installed them into their TSX fogs (I'm ordering a set NOW).

for reflector headlight installs - just make sure to get a shielded bulb like this --


alternatively --
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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Thank you everyone!
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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Generally I do agree with what Ceb is saying. But there is no really no need for offensive words (i.e., Clueless). Everyone is entitled to freely express their concern/ experience.

With that said, there are cars that are equipped with reflector style HID and is perfectly legal. These cars will have a glare shield at the bottom of the headlight that will prevent glare. However, these headlights are designed with absolute precision.

The aftermarket bulbs with glare shield on the bottom may prevent some (or significant amount depending on the headlight/ foglight) glare, they are, by no means, perfect. Your headlights will still glare causing a hazardous situation for oncoming traffic.
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
I don't design headlight housing and neither do you, right? My applications of HID kits have worked 100% perfect (after trial and error) and again I'll say I've never been flashed, ticketed, warned, etc, etc.

OP ----- 1000s of HID are sold and installed daily, don't get scared off so easy -- lotsa of people on this forum have also installed them into their TSX fogs (I'm ordering a set NOW).

for reflector headlight installs - just make sure to get a shielded bulb like this --


alternatively --
Thanks for proving my point.

FWIW, you have no clue what I do but let's just say that I've forgotten more about automotive lighting than you will ever learn.
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by zup2sky
Generally I do agree with what Ceb is saying. But there is no really no need for offensive words (i.e., Clueless). Everyone is entitled to freely express their concern/ experience.

With that said, there are cars that are equipped with reflector style HID and is perfectly legal. These cars will have a glare shield at the bottom of the headlight that will prevent glare. However, these headlights are designed with absolute precision.

The aftermarket bulbs with glare shield on the bottom may prevent some (or significant amount depending on the headlight/ foglight) glare, they are, by no means, perfect. Your headlights will still glare causing a hazardous situation for oncoming traffic.
The "clueless" was not directed at anyone in particular but at the general lack of understanding of lighting basics in the community.

For example, a fog light housing is designed to light the area directly in front of, and to the side, of the car. These lighting housings are mounted very low. Putting HID bulbs in such a housing is just plain stupid, decreases visibility and increases glare.

Equally, forcing some jerry-rigged bulb with a deflector into a housing designed for a halogen bulb is equally foolish.
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