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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 08:39 AM
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Thumbs down Headliner sagging

Pretty disappointed, I owned a 93 accord for 19 years and 0 issues with the headliner, I have a 2006 for freestyle with 0 headliner issues, but my 2010 TSX ...





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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 10:00 AM
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well, you can be disappointed...or you can do something about it.

you can either buy a new headliner or refinish your headliner in a different material. Suede is all the rage!

my headliner is sagging to, btw.. 2006 TL
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:21 AM
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Amazing that ford can get it right and a 93 Honda can get it right. But the most expensive out of all 3 didn’t.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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you can either do something about it, or sit there and complain
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:25 AM
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For a moderator you’re quite helpful. Thanks for your sage advice.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:28 AM
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To anyone who happens to come upon this post and has had the same experience and maybe repaired it yourself or had luck with a repair that doesn’t involve taking the whole headliner down, would be nice to know about options before I try and find a repair shop.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:29 AM
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On a side note my post title definitely said headliner when I hit post. Don’t know what happened there.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:32 AM
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To anyone who happens to come upon this post and has had the same experience and maybe repaired it yourself or had luck with a repair that doesn’t involve taking the whole headliner down, would be nice to know about options before I try and find a repair shop.
there's no other way...
either replace it with OEM or refinish the headliner with a different material.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:35 AM
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complaining does nothing, it's all about that action.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
there's no other way...
either replace it with OEM or refinish the headliner with a different material.


Easier said than done. Looks like the front seat needs to be removed or the front windshield.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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it takes action.
some things in life are hard as hell.
cant give up. cant complain. gotta keep going/working to overcome adversity.

take it to a shop if one isnt comfortable doing it by themselves.

seats are super easy to take out.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:52 AM
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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I don't see briq456's post as "throwing a tantrum" or "melting into a puddle of inaction." What I read is someone who's pointing out a flaw one would expect seeing in an 85 Monte Carlo with 350k miles and has been smoked in all it's life...not in a high end 10 year old car from a mark that makes its beans on quality -or- a heads-up to a potential buyer of a used Acura/Honda to BOLO. Acura/Honda can do better and I believe that is the point. BTW, my 07 Ridge suffers from the same issue as did my buddies Ridge...so, not an uncommon problem.
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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def. not a tantrum but more of an entitlement issue. "I paid for an Acura and I deserve better glue for my headliner"

for a sub $10k used car, a sagging headline will not sway potential buyers. a sub $10k buyer is looking for a point A to B car. something that can get their kids to school safely.
and as you pointed out, most of the Honda's of this generation are suffering from sagging headliners.

one can live with it or fix it.
its just dumb to to whine about it, as there many many more pressing issues in the world.

Also, my job as a moderator isnt to manage feelings but more clerical work like fixing thread titles

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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 04:59 PM
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Lucky for you OP, you could buy a used one https://www.ebay.com/itm/09-10-11-Ac...0a8d9f530f316b

Unfortunately for myself, there's not a single decent used one and most upholstery shops by me don't want to work on an Acura headliner. I'm going to bite the bullet and buy a new one from the dealer.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 02:28 AM
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Same happened with my 2011. Looks exactly like your first picture. For now, it's not a big deal, but if it ends up obstructing the rear window, I will have to have it fixed. Pretty sure I've read online that someone said they had it done at a local shop for $200-300, but of course, YMMV.

As a temp fix, I was thinking couldn't you just slice a straight line, spray some glue inside and push it back so it's flush? It probably won't look like new, but as a short term solution it might suffice?

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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rawger
Same happened with my 2011. Looks exactly like your first picture. For now, it's not a big deal, but if it ends up obstructing the rear window, I will have to have it fixed. Pretty sure I've read online that someone said they had it done at a local shop for $200-300, but of course, YMMV.

As a temp fix, I was thinking couldn't you just slice a straight line, spray some glue inside and push it back so it's flush? It probably won't look like new, but as a short term solution it might suffice?
It might work for a little bit, but will probably start to fail again. I think the root of the problem is that there's a thin layer of foam between the fabric liner and whatever is on the backside. When it starts to fail, it crumbles, so when you spray the glue back up in there, it's trying to adhere to something that's continuously failing. So once it crumbles a little more it'll sag again.

But I guess if you're at that point, what do you have to lose?
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 09:18 AM
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I'm about to redo mine in suede.

I posted a picture of my buddies DIY Suede headliner from his 2001 Lexus IS300.


he said it really wasnt that hard.



he went from an all tan interior to mostly black now.

which i'm about to do as well. my headliner is tan. and I want to refinish in black

taking out the front seat isnt very hard.. I took his passenger seat out.



also helped him swap a 1JZ into his IS300



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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 09:42 AM
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Did he just apply the suede directly to the headliner backing board or did he put a layer of foam?

I'd think that the suede might be thick enough and/or have enough texture that the foam isn't necessary. Both for contouring and for sound deadening.

If I had to redo mine, I'd probably do some funky fabric pattern. Maybe tie-dye it or something.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 11:34 AM
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I can ask him what he did.
he got the idea from another IS300 friend, who put Wraith inspired star sprinkles in the headliner...only this dude didnt use the fiber optic cables/lights...he used actual sprinkles..
anytime the dude brushes up against his headliner or closes the door, star dust sprinkles rain down on him....looks like he stepped out the skripper joint every time he gets out of his car.
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I walked into my Acura dealership today and bought a new headliner.. I'd suggest doing it yourself if you want to save several hundred dollars.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cu2wagon
Did he just apply the suede directly to the headliner backing board or did he put a layer of foam?

I'd think that the suede might be thick enough and/or have enough texture that the foam isn't necessary. Both for contouring and for sound deadening.

If I had to redo mine, I'd probably do some funky fabric pattern. Maybe tie-dye it or something.
so the toyotas/lexus'(lexi?) have a carpet material. he just stretched the suede right over the carpet material.

it would be harder for us honda folks, as we would need to remove the foam layer and possibly add another layer of foam
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
I can ask him what he did.
he got the idea from another IS300 friend, who put Wraith inspired star sprinkles in the headliner...only this dude didnt use the fiber optic cables/lights...he used actual sprinkles..
anytime the dude brushes up against his headliner or closes the door, star dust sprinkles rain down on him....looks like he stepped out the skripper joint every time he gets out of his car.
That is quite genius actually... It seems like it's just a bad execution of an idea, but now the dude has normalized his appearance each time he gets out of the car. So now when he comes home covered in stripper dust, his lady doesn't get suspicious.

A+, great forethought.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
I'm about to redo mine in suede.

I posted a picture of my buddies DIY Suede headliner from his 2001 Lexus IS300.


he said it really wasnt that hard.



he went from an all tan interior to mostly black now.

which i'm about to do as well. my headliner is tan. and I want to refinish in black

taking out the front seat isnt very hard.. I took his passenger seat out.



also helped him swap a 1JZ into his IS300

I like the black headliner, but for some reason the suede drives me crazy because of how it changes color if you swipe your hand on it.

Guess I would just be happy with a black cloth headliner.
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Old Sep 15, 2020 | 07:24 AM
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yeah, you can literally use any fabric/material you want
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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 07:09 PM
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I've done a number of headliners myself. Back in the day, you could even purchase the material at a regular fabric store like Joann's Fabrics. I don't know if they still carry it. And one that I removed myself and took to an upholstery shop to have them cover it (It had a number of difficult bends in it), then I reassembled it in the car. There are different thicknesses, so you need to make sure to use the correct size, especially if you have a sunroof. But the cheapest and easiest was the one where I bought these
spirally pointy tack like things with decorative heads spirally pointy tack like things with decorative heads
that I simply Screwed through the saggy parts and into the backer board. If you did it in a nice little pattern then it almost looked "good".


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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 08:47 PM
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Sounds a lot like Grandma's "stick a bunch of St. Christopher medallion pins in the headliner" solution back in the '80s.
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