Hi. I am currently looking for a TSX. I was at the dealership and they offered me a 2011 tsx base with 11k miles for 25k out the door. Should i pull the trigger on it?

 

I got my 2010 tech package 6speed manual with 22k on it certified for 21900 from a dealer

 

Hmm thats a good deal... Around a 100 miles from my area theres only 2010 base models with 30k miles listed for 23.5k. Should i buy it? Its equivalent to around 22.5k.

 

I got my brand new tsx 2010 base w/ tech package for 30k out the door

 

The "out the door" price has zero comparative value to a national audience. What's the offered sales price of the car?

 

In my area, North NJ, the 2010 with tech package and 30k miles are listed at around 23k.

 

It has been a while between posts for myself, but I think I will pile on here. I am back in the market for what would be my 3rd TSX - Currently a '06 Base 6sp - 86.3k miles.

A dealer near me has a 2012 SE 6sp with 10k listed at $26.5 and offering a trade of $8k on mine. Still a bit of a gap between the figures for me. I was really impressed w/ the SE 'upgrades' but I understand that is what I am looking at if I want to stick with that year and a manual.

 

The purchase price with out tax/title comes out to be around 22.5. Originally the sticker price on it was right around 26k.

 

Look around. I found a 2012 TSX Special Edition in Indiana that I bought. 1-owner (originally sold by Jay Wolfe Acura) I found at a Ford dealership. It has tinted windows, a trunk mat, all-weather floor mats, body side moldings and door edge film with 17,000 miles for $23,900.00.

 

Not sure what you ended up doing, but for a few thousand more I'd just get a brand new one. Since a TSX starts at approx. 30k anyways, I bet you could score one for about 30k out the door (my dealer took off almost 3k on my TSX and I didn't have to resort to games like walking out, having them call me later, etc.)

 

^^Just curious if you also traded in a vehicle?

 

A vehicle was traded in.

 

^^^How did you compute the out the door price with a trade-in?

 

The out the door price is what he paid for the car after all was said and done. What's basically impossible to accurately determine with a trade, is what the actual sales price of the car is. It's certainly much more convenient to trade in your old car instead of going through the hassle of selling it, but you're always at a disadvantage in making the deal.

 

^^That is the exact point I was going to make. The dealer can show they took 5K off the car and people can brag what a great deal they got, but they don't disclose that they only got 7k trade-in with KBB showing a value of 12K.

Too many people let the dealer play the numbers game with them, with so-called discounts and/or buying based on monthly payment.

Buying the car without a trade makes it easy to determine. Otherwise, IMO, to figure out what you really paid would be to look at the amount they gave you for your trade, compare it to Kelly Blue Book Trade-In value (usually an accurate value of your vehicle) and then add or subtract the difference from the price of their vehicle. (example: Dealer shows 29K for their car and 10K trade-in value for yours - $19K trade difference. If your car Books at 13K trade-in, you actually paid 32K for their car. If your car Books at 9K, then you actually paid 28K for their car)

At the dealer, trade difference is all that matters, when trading in a vehicle and you better know the trade-in value for the car before going.

And FWIW, tax, title and license doesn't matter. It's different in every state and the dealer doesn't take that into consideration. If it's high and you finance it, then your payment may be higher then someone in another state where it is less.

And don't get me started on figuring interest rates into it (the higher the rate, the more kickback the dealers get). EVERYTHING is negotiable at a dealership! And don't make fun of the guys that lost the numbers game and got screwed. Without the dealer making a killing in them, you wouldn't have gotten such a good deal on yours !

 

I actually did not trade in a vehicle. My car overheated and died, but i was able to sell it privately. The 22.5k price is the price they gave me at the dealership.

 

This is very true - but there is the convenience and lower risk involved with trading in. I knew going in that I'd lose a few thousand by trading in. I saw my car for sale a couple days after I traded in and the mark up was 3k on the vehicle - and they probably won't sell it for full asking price. So a couple thousand for me was worth it.