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Old 02-10-2009, 07:14 AM
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Angry Ingalls Front Camber Issue

I had a shop recently install the front camber kit in my car which is the control arm with the ball joint set held together with 4 hex screws. When I got it out of the shop, it was rubbing, but not from where you'd expect. I'm dropped pretty low, but the tires weren't rubbing. The camber kit was rubbing. The ball joint had to slide out so much for camber correction that the actual tip of the balljoint assembly is rubbing on the inner fender.

I thought it was a plastic thing rubbing (even though it was eating away at the metal balljoint), so I cut that piece out. Underneath that was a metal flap. So i bent that away from the camber kit. And it's still rubbing. The only thing I can see is the inside fender itself. I mean technically to keep the 0 alignment I should just bang out the metal, but this is ridiculous now. Why is the design so bad that I'd have to do this. I figure I'm just going to go back to the alignment place and have them shift it back towards the control arm a little.

Secondly, with the rear camber kit I got the one that has two arms on the bottom (also ingalls). Now I'm no professional, but my wheels were drastically angled before from having no camber kit. But now after the installation and alignment... I still have the exact same drastic camber. The threads are in all the way on the arms, so I can't blame it on that, but again definitely very far from 0.

Has anyone had the same problems? All my tires have a 0 finger drop on TEINSS's. I do not see how this can be only an issue for me because this is a pretty standard install for everyone on these forums. Ahh my car is dying

To top it off I saw a leak coming from the boot that's on the steering rod. It looks like power steering fluid. =(
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looks like you need the control arms
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I think that's what he says he has...
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I think that's what he says he has...
you're right.. in that case

are you sure the shop did the install correctly?
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Have not yet installed mine, but I will confirm this to see if it happens to me.
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I have ingalls in the rear and I have no issues at all. a good aligner should know exactly what to do. Do you have the 38720 rear kit or the 38725 kit...I have commented quite a bit on this topic in the suspension forum and also Excelerate's camber kit sale thread...basically, if your factory control arms are the same length, you need the 38720 kit..if your oem control arms are different lenghts on same side, you need 38725 kit for the 03 TL...turns out my car was made in Dec 02 but sold as an 03 model..the suspension was slightly changed even though it was the same year believe it or not...some 03s require the 38725 kit..i worked directly with Ingalls at their facility in Colorado.

As far as the front, something doesn't sound right at all...I would contact Ingalls directly and ask for Todd. either you have the wrong version or it wasn't installed correctly..my rear wheels are straight up and down exactly at factory specs and I have about a 2" drop
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See my posts on page 1 https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/ingalls-camber-kit-sale-acura-cl-rl-tl-tsx-352963/
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I had a similar issue on mine. The ball joint wasnt rubbing, but the corner of one arm was. I had to grind a little off it so it didnt rub.

The ball joint definately is close to the frame. If I was to slide it out to the max positive position, im pretty sure mine would hit too. Thankfully I got within spec without using the inner most holes in the ball joint mount. I used the outer most and middle holes for the hex bolts.

You have to tell the alignment guy to sacrifice on positive camber, so nothing hits. Maybe a long shot, but were all 4 hex bolts installed? If someone didnt know better, they may have installed just the 2 bolts, which would allow the ball joint to extend beyond its intended amount.
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i had this problem with my 1st gen CL. however, i was pretty damn low... but yeah, to get the camber to be corrected, i was going through control arms at a ridiculous pace. eventually i said screw it, took the kit out, and just had it aligned as best as it could be. ended up being better off that way, IMO.
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im having this problem just got my front camber installed today. is there any way to make this not rub?? havent got a chance to look at mine but its pissing me off!
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Originally Posted by 40kalz
im having this problem just got my front camber installed today. is there any way to make this not rub?? havent got a chance to look at mine but its pissing me off!
are your rubbing or is it hitting your upper strut tower when you go over bumps?

Low how are you?
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its hitting when i go over bumps
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^ how low are you? Measure the distance from the highest point of your fender to the ground. if you're anywhere lower than 24" there's no solving that issue... When you're slammed, your Upper Control arms will hit the strut tower.
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so what would i need to camber in my rear on a 03 TL my wheels are 18x8.5 245/45/18
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^ how low are you? Measure the distance from the highest point of your fender to the ground. if you're anywhere lower than 24" there's no solving that issue... When you're slammed, your Upper Control arms will hit the strut tower.
not sure but its not that slamed i dont have a finger gap front or rear and it seems to be coming more from the passenger side.
so what would i need to camber in my rear on a 03 TL my wheels are 18x8.5 245/45/18
you need to measure your stock camber kit in the rear if there all equal lenghth you need ingalls 38720 part# if they are not equal length you need part#38752 and i would go with a ingalls rear camber kit they got them on ebay.
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Any help guys?
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Originally Posted by 40kalz
Any help guys?
is it clunk type of noise or a metal on metal rubbing?
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sounds like metal on metal
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try to make a video and see if you can capture the sound. That would be the only way of pin pointing the issue
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i listen to it today sounds like a clunking sound gonna jack it up and look at it tomorrow.
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The sound was only coming from the passenger side i jacked it up and did not see any sighns of rubbing or hitting so i let the car back down drove around the block and is no longer making that sound weird.
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hey i have ingalls the whole control arm and yea it hits the frame i thought it would hit it self out but no luck yet it never did this with the stock control arm and i was more dropped i actually rasied and car a bit and installed the ingalls and its knocking and yea on my car its more the driver side then the passenger side i saw on the cl side some guy cut a hole on the shock tower for clearence but i didnt want to do that
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