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This is an Acurazine Special Sales Event for Ingalls' Camber Kits and the Engine Torque Damper. The pricing event will consist of the Ingalls' Camber Kits for the the Acura CL/TL/RL/TSX and the ETD for the TSX. Here is a quick description:



Ingalls Adjustable Front Upper Control Arm Ball Joint

Featuring the lowest profile of any adjustable ball joint on the market. These ball joints replace the non-adjustable O.E. ball joint and are indexed to make accurate installation easy. Ingalls Engineering Company’s patented adjustable ball joints have ample stud travel to eliminate binding. They also include a larger stud base and heavy-duty boot and retainer for long service life.



Ingalls SmartArm Rear Adjustable Lower Links (Rubber) Replaces Both Lower Arms. ONLY Honda/Acura kit that properly adjusts camber and toe!

Newly redesigned, SmartArm Links feature forged steel ends for maximum strength. Most can be installed either on the left or right side of the vehicle (depending on application) with an adjustment range from -2° to +3° depending on the application.





A self-contained elastomeric shock that mounts on brackets between the engine and the chassis. It reduces extreme engine movement and dampens the motion, providing many benefits:

- Greatly improved off-the-line acceleration
- Reduced wheel hop
- Improved vehicle stability
- Reduced shock loads on driveline components
- Smoother shifting
- Reduced wear on exhaust system joints
- Less vibration transmission to the driver compared to polyurethane motor mounts.
- Less shock load, compared to torque straps and chains.
- Drifting – helps reduce shock loads when wheels gain traction.
- Reduces motor movement – decreases the chance of motor parts rubbing against the hood and frame.


Shipping times will depend upon your location. Prices based on shipping to 48 continental states in the U.S.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=352963

The following payment terms are accepted: Bank or Teller Check, Money Order, sent to:

Excelerate LLC
998 West Main St
Branford, CT 06405

You may also send payment to Excelerate@sbcglobal.net via Paypal.

Please specify what you're ordering and for what car in the payment.

Applications are taken straight from www.ingallseng.com. The prices will run as follows:


Ingalls Front Camber Kit Part # 35590 - $165 shipped
Adjustment range: -1.50° to +1.50°
Applications for Part # 35590 - Acura: 01-03 CL, 96 - 08 TL, 04-08 TSX, Honda: 98 - 08 Accord

Ingalls Front Camber Kit Part #35591 - $165 shipped
Adjustment range: +1.50° to +3.0°
Applications for Part # 35591 - Acura: 01-03 CL, 96 - 08 TL, 04-08 TSX, Honda: 98 - 08 Accord

Ingalls Rear Camber Kit Part # 38720 - $160 shipped
Adjustment range: -1.5° to 3°
Applications for Part # 38720 - 98-02 Honda Accord, 99-02 Acura TL, 03 Acura TL*, 01-03 Acura CL

Ingalls Rear Camber Kit Part #38725 - $160 shipped
Adjustment range: 1.5° to 3°
Applications for Part # 38725 - 03-07 Honda Accord, 03 Acura TL*, 04-08 Acura TSX, 03-06 Acura 3.5 RL

Ingalls Engine Torque Damper
Application: Acura TSX 04-08 - $150 shipped

*38725 for Vehicles with un-equal length arms, 38720 for vehicles with equal length arms.
*****A camber kit will include BOTH sides!*****

In order to determine what camber kit you need it is best to have an alignment first so that you can determine how much your camber is off. Ingalls recommends certain part #'s based on ride height drop. Therefore we recommend part #'s based on specific ride height drops, but it is not definitive nor 100% accurate. Therefore it is the responsibility of the consumer to determine what kit they need.

AIM Screen Name: Excelerate04
E-mail: Excelerate@sbcglobal.net
or PM me.

RETURN POLICY
- ALL RETURNED AND/OR CANCELLED ORDERS ARE SUBJECT TO A 25% RE-STOCKING FEE PLUS ALL SHIPPING CHARGES (Includes original and return S&H fees).
- ALL AUTHORIZED RETURN MERCHANDISE MUST BE NEW, UNUSED, AND IN ITS ORIGINAL PACKAGING. ALL DOCUMENTATION, WARRANTY CARDS, INSTRUCTIONS, AND HARDWARE MUST ALSO BE RETURNED.
- ITEMS MAY BE RETURNED WITHIN 15 CALENDAR DAYS FROM THE RECEIPT OF MERCHANDISE.
- SPECIAL ORDERS ARE NOT RETURNABLE.

EXCELERATE LLC
998 West Main St
Branford, CT 06405
(P) 203-483-6100 (F) 203-483-6101
www.ExceleratePerformance.com

Joshua Lockwood
Owner

datzdaboi

payment sent for front camber kit

SilverPhoenix

Hey, what's going on

I was wondering if this kit was still available ... I'm gonna need the front and rears for a 2003 CL-S. If so I'll send ya the paypal payment right away!

Thanks.

Excelerate

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Yes the sale is still good and the parts are in stock. Just specify what you're ordering in the payment and for what car and how much of a drop you have or will be having. Make sure to add the 3% too for Paypal fees.

SilverPhoenix

Hey man, what's going on.

Payment for the Ingalls front and rear camber kits, for a 2003 Cl Type-S on Tein Type SS Coilovers, now about a 2.5 inch drop. PM me if you got questions.

Thanks man

speedracered

is the ffront uppoer control arm available? if so how much for the +1-+4

thanks

Excelerate

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What car?

speedracered

98-02 Accord, Should Be Same As 98-02 Tl

Excelerate

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Yes $300 shipped for the pair of front adjustable upper control arms. And $5 for Paypal fees.

IngallsEng

Today it was brought to my attention that the part number 35591 (or 35590) being sold for the front camber adjustment of all 96-99 CLs is incorrect. The adjustable seat for the ball joint will not work with these vehicles. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO INSTALL THESE PART NUMBERS ON 1996-1999 ACURA CLs. We are working on getting buyers of these parts the correct part replacements. If you have any questions, concerns, or comments my email address is DanJ@IngallsEng.com and I promise I will get back to each and everyone of you as I recieve these emails (I work from 8am-5pm MST, if you drop me a line by 4:45pm you should expect a response same day). Please don't attempt to make these parts work, improper installation could lead to damage of the vehicle or your health.
Thank you all for your understanding in this matter, I will make it my job for the next few days to make sure each one of you has the right part on its way to you.
Thank you,
Dan Jones / Customer Support / Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc.

Excelerate

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Thank you Dan. Anyone who has bought an Ingalls front camber kit (adjustable upper ball joint) for the 96-99 Acura CL please contact Dan at Ingalls to get a replacement. I know most guys have bought them for the 2nd gen CL/TL and those are fine, but any first gen CL guys contact Dan. And the first post will be updated.

IngallsEng

The situation with these parts is sort of complicated. The 35591 will fit 96-99 CLs with the stock (like came with the car, new off the lot) upper control arm. Those users with a replacement upper control arm or have had their ball joints replaced (requires the same part, the upper control arm from Acura or the aftermarket) may require a different part from us for an adjustable ball joint. Those user who know they have had ball joint replaced by Acura need to order the 35595 part number. If you purchased the 35591 part number, but actually need the 35595 ball joint can get an exchange through us (Ingalls) by shipping the wrong ones back (if not damaged). Let me know if you need any assistance on this, there are a few things you can look at before ordering that may make this process a little smoother.
Thanks for everything,
Dan

604A-SPEC

The Ingalls website states that the p/n for a 2003 TL rear kit is 38725, but 1999-2002 TLs (rear kit also) are 38720. Are they actually different, or is that a typo?

Excelerate

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Ingall's lists the 2003 being the same as the 2004+. I called to confirm b/c I thought it was odd but they said that is the case. So I am going to change my info.

AQUI NO!

so for 155 you get left and right, or 155 each side?

Excelerate

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It is $155 shipped for a pair of front adjustable upper ball joints.

jlukja

FYI, ordered mine last week, arrived on Monday. Great service.

x06wdpTLx

Hey josh!! i just sent the payment via Paypal yesterday to lawrence kansas hope to see it soon. thanks

CJITTY

Don't want to muddy the waters, but I ordered the 38725 kit for my 03 TL Type S and the kit DOES NOT fit my car. The techs tried everything to get my car to align and it did not work out.

So, they experimented and found that by installing the two shorter arms on one side (wheel), that side aligned perfectly. So, I think even though I have an 03, I need the 02 part number since the arms are the same length..at least it looks that way. I am confirming with Ingalls tech support right now on how the 38720 kit is setup..i.e. two same length arms, etc. I am 100% sure my car is an 03 as based on the VIN number...weird stuff...

Excelerate

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That is what I said to them. I told htem 99-03 was the same generation. They said that Honda will begin implementing changes half a year or so before production so that is why the 03 took 38725. Let me know what you find out and if you bought them from me let me know if you need any help getting Ingalls to swap them out for you.

CJITTY

Excelerate, I remember you doing that.

Here are the findings after I had a lengthy discussion with Todd and Dan at Ingalls..the company is right here in Colorado about 30 miles from me

I was the guinea pig and found out the hard way that even though I have an 03 TL, my car does not have "unequal" arm lengths. Alll four rear factory arms are identical in length.

Bottom line is this:
If your TL has unequal factory arm lengths = Use 38725 part #
If your TL has EQUAL factory arm lengths (all four the same size) = Use 38720

For more insight..keep reading.

The issue appears to be a slight suspension change by Acura/Honda sometime in 03. My vehicle was made in January 2003 and appears I still have the 99-02 same length control arms.

Lucky for me, my shop did not charge me a penny for the 2.5 hrs of labor while they tried to get my 38725 kit to fit. The install should take under an hour, but they tried different combinations to get this to work and spent some time on it. So I tipped the tech and bought a box of chicken for the whole crew. The least I could do.

Back on topic, the issue was the longer arm (toe control) would fight against the shorter camber rod control to stay within spec. The tech adjusted each rod a little here/little there trying to tweak it, but it could not align at all. So, they experimented and installed the two shorter rods (one from each 38725 kit) onto one side (wheel) of my car. With those two shorter rods, the car aligned perfectly on that one side.

So, the 38720 kit has two rods for each kit. Both rods are the same length and just slightly shorter than the short rod of the 38725 kit. Did I lose you? Stay with me....almost done. So, according to the Ingalls guys, my car will use the 38720 kit.

In fact, with my lesson learned, Ingalls has updated their website to reflect this change, as you'll see highlighted in yellow.
http://www.ingallseng.com/cars/acura.html

I hope this helps. This camber kit design is very strong and will end my rear camber nightmare. Ingalls also told me that when I come by to exchange my parts, they will put my car on the rack for me, just to confirm. But, I believe we found out the underlying issue. Measure your control arms and know which one to get. The 03 is an 03, but may have 99-02 control arms....

Good luck, don't be afraid to buy this kit if you have a 99-03 TL.

Dr.Murdock

i dropepd my car about 2 inches all around...would u suggest i get a rear camber kit for my 04tl...do u thin ka front is also needed or is it adjsutable enough?

Excelerate

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For 2" you will probably need both a front and rear kit.

Dr.Murdock

u got them in stock? i might come pick them up or just order them...i came up there a couple time before


-i might need some nice brakes and rotors too.

Excelerate

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Yes I do have them in stock.

Dr.Murdock

what time do u open up monday morning

Excelerate

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10AM

CJITTY

5/7/07 Update!!

I just got back from the Ingalls company here in Louisville, Colorado. Todd and Dan are great guys! They pulled my car into their R&D bay and got it up on the lift. Here is the verdict to put this issue to rest. Even though I have an 03 TL Type S, I have 2002 suspension parts on the rear based on my rear subframe setup. My car was final produced in 2003, even though probably most of it is 2002.

They told me that an easier way to determine which kit you need if you have a late year produced 2002 or early 2003 produced TL, here is what to look for.

If looking underneath your car from the rear:

If the lower control arms are somewhat in-line (parallel) with each other, you will have the 2002 parts and need the 38720 kit. One of the arms is very slightly higher than the other.

If the lower control arms are clearly offset (one much higher than the other), then you have the newer suspension and you will require the 38725 kit.

I hope this helps, they swapped out my 38725 kit for the 38720 kit with no questions asked, even though I got them from an internet retailer. Great company, great product.

Ok, here is a pic that should help a little more.

The red areas are the two control arms that are the 99-02 parts setup.

The green area is the appx location of the one control arm that is longer and appx where it sits on the newer updated suspension. The vertical green circle is just a guess as to the mount location of the one arm.

The red circles on mine show that I have a little height difference between the two control arms, but the guys at Ingalls said there will be a very noticeable difference in how one arm is much higher than the other.

Excelerate

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Thanks for the update.

m733l

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hey excelerate,

i need the rear camber kit. just want to make sure which one to get. i have -1.1 degree camber on both sides. i'm assuming to get the one that says -1.5 to 3.0, correct?

Excelerate

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There is only one rear kit. The front kits are different.

m733l

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thanks. sorry, i should have read that more carefully. the other one is not for the cl. my bad

CJITTY

Update for June 2, 2007:

Finally got my two 38720 kits installed on the rear of my 2003 TL Type S this past Saturday. Brakes Plus installed them in very short order and aligned me up perfectly!! I am dead on center for factory specs in the rear camber now, toe is right on as well. The kit actually helped to improve my front wheel camber/toe also because the rear changes actually changes the overall car setup. Camber is in the center for range in front and the toe is pretty much center in the front also.

So, no more butterfly effect with my rear wheels, they are perfectly straight up and down now, and look great! Ingalls makes a good product and the install should take 20 min or so per side.

Best advice to tell your installer is to remove factory arms and assemble new arms so that the bolt holes line up with the new arms, apply anti-seize grease on the threads and then install the new arms on the car..a couple tweakes with both arms will get toe and camber right on for factory specs.

I can say the car rides nicer and I have slightly less road noise. I think because the full tread is making contact and the noise reduction technology in the tire tread design is working how it is supposed to. I did notice an improvement in my overall ride and appearance on how the car looks from the rear!

MegaKillTron

Pmed you.....

TSXRudebwoy

I understand you put this camber kit is for both sides and im not disputing the price cuz its good but I just want to clarify the for the 07 TSX the camber kit comes with 2 bars, one for camber and the other for toe and to my understanding that kit is for one wheel does this mean your kit has 4 bars?

Excelerate

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The rear kit does include 2 arms per side so there is a total of 4 arms for the rear kit. Each kit technically includes 2 arms. They are about $75 each and so you need 2 kits to make a pair of kits to complete the rear setup. So they are $150 shipped.

Porkipine

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I need a quote (incl. paypal fee) for the front and back camber kit for an '07 TL to be shipped to 90012.
Drop is ~2in all the way around now. I might actually raise it 1in later. Need your help on the parts. Thanks.

Excelerate

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I'll do $305 shipped in total for front and rear kit.

Porkipine

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Money sent

alpswd

Just to let you guys know, Excelerate is the fucking MAN! My bolts were seized when he was installing my kit and he came in on his one day off just to take care of my car!! You won't find better service anywhere...