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Old 03-18-2014, 10:27 AM
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Transmission Fill Plug Stuck

I am attempting to do a drain and fill on my transmission, but the fill plug seems to be stuck. I used a breaker bar and broke a 1/2" extension trying to get it open. Maybe it was a crappy extension, but that seems a little rediculous.

Anyone have any ideas?

Oh, and my 1/2" drive impact didn't even wiggle the bolt.

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Spray some PB Blaster on it. Let it sit over night. Come back the next day and put some muscle into it.


First time I did mine it was very stuck. Had to keep on hand on the extension and the other on the ratchet.
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You can always refill through the dipstick tube.
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princelybug You can always refill through the dipstick tube.
I did last night. What a pain. But now I need to do another drain and fill.

PB Blaster away!

Thanks!
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Do it with a warm transmission (ie drive it around for a while first) And put more muscle into it. It will break free.
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I always do my oil changes with warm trans and it break loose with little effort.
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I remember my first time doing a drain/fill...busted my knuckles when the fill bolt finally popped loose. I get that "pop" from the fill bolt everytime but I know what to expect when doing it now.


Will be doing a drain/fill in about 5k miles because I just had a new trans put in a week ago. My original trans finally crapped out @ 194k miles
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Dip stick and funnel method is much easier if you have the oil jet.
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Originally Posted by ErickUa5
Dip stick and funnel method is much easier if you have the oil jet.






You mean pouring the ATF trough the dipstick instead of removing the Jet Kit?.. You lost me there..


Pouring to the dip stick is the super hiper mega last resource, Its a royal PITA to pour for ages by the dip stick and even removing the big fat ATF bolt is easier and faster. Having the Jet Kit is by far the fastest way to refill the trans..
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Originally Posted by Skirmich
You mean pouring the ATF trough the dipstick instead of removing the Jet Kit?.. You lost me there..


Pouring to the dip stick is the super hiper mega last resource, Its a royal PITA to pour for ages by the dip stick and even removing the big fat ATF bolt is easier and faster. Having the Jet Kit is by far the fastest way to refill the trans..
Yeah if the oil jet kit is on your trans its much easier to fill through the dipstick with a funnel. One end of the hose on the dipstick tube and the other to the funnel, Doesn't take long for 3 quarts to go through.

It takes more effort removing the kit but of course the fluid will pour in faster that way.
Not saying its hard to remove the oil jet either, done it plenty of times.
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^ The first time I did an ATF change myself and not in the dealer back in 04 or 05? whatever I could not unbolt the big ATF bolt and I had to pour the ATF from the dipstick since being dumb myself I drained before I undo the bolt hahaha very very dumb..
But it took forever to pour the 3qts from the dip stick, I don't recommend it to anybody.
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Originally Posted by ErickUa5
Dip stick and funnel method is much easier if you have the oil jet.
Much easier than removing a small, easy to remove bolt, pulling straight up and placing a funnel in the hole??? Even with the oiljet its far easier and faster than using the dipstick to fill.
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^ The first time I did an ATF change myself and not in the dealer back in 04 or 05? whatever I could not unbolt the big ATF bolt and I had to pour the ATF from the dipstick since being dumb myself I drained before I undo the bolt hahaha very very dumb..
But it took forever to pour the 3qts from the dip stick, I don't recommend it to anybody.
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Well the oil jet on mines doesn't let me pull up after taking off the bolt I have to remove the rubber hose from it, which most of the times wouldn't come off.
Yes its slower with the the dipstick but less effort required unlike taking off the oil jet to fill up.

Never went against the fill bolt that can be removed with a 17mm guys, of course Id rather take that off and fill it through there but I don't have one of those unfortunately.

Lets just say I got tired of removing it and decided to use this method until I get the Av6 trans.
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Originally Posted by Skirmich
^ The first time I did an ATF change myself and not in the dealer back in 04 or 05? whatever I could not unbolt the big ATF bolt and I had to pour the ATF from the dipstick since being dumb myself I drained before I undo the bolt hahaha very very dumb..
But it took forever to pour the 3qts from the dip stick, I don't recommend it to anybody.
With the dip stick method, I use a pentle pen/marker, remove the marker end & use this end to insert into the dip stick tube;
the opposite end is where you insert your long funnel as it fits perfectly as you pour with no leaks. Now you have a special tool for atf fills...=)
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Ha, hah....I once used a turkey baster as a filling extension for the funnel.
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First time I made something from stuff in my garage. Let`s just say filling from the fill bolt is better.
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Well said. Perfect tool is the perfect method for any task. If you can't pour it in in less than 30 secs for a quart, then you don't have the right tool; but whatever method that suits you, that is the best tool.

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With the dip stick method, I use a pentle pen/marker, remove the marker end & use this end to insert into the dip stick tube;
the opposite end is where you insert your long funnel as it fits perfectly as you pour with no leaks. Now you have a special tool for atf fills...=)
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Originally Posted by acutee
Well said. Perfect tool is the perfect method for any task. If you can't pour it in in less than 30 secs for a quart, then you don't have the right tool; but whatever method that suits you, that is the best tool.
I've been using this tool since dealer installed the oiljet on the atf fill hole. It works pretty well.
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Originally Posted by 3.2TLc
Ha, hah....I once used a turkey baster as a filling extension for the funnel.
I believe I tried that too but the narrow baster end wasn't a good fit....but the marker end did...
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Originally Posted by ErickUa5
Well the oil jet on mines doesn't let me pull up after taking off the bolt I have to remove the rubber hose from it, which most of the times wouldn't come off.
Yes its slower with the the dipstick but less effort required unlike taking off the oil jet to fill up.



You have to lube the O-Ring before inseting it again! if that bitch its dry it will surely be a PITA to remove next fill up! I have lubed my o-ring in the Jet Kit with ATF ever since I installed it and it always come off, Always with an easy pull.. I don't even d/c the feed line I just put it aside with a drag and insert the funnel.


Originally Posted by junteschan
With the dip stick method, I use a pentle pen/marker, remove the marker end & use this end to insert into the dip stick tube;
the opposite end is where you insert your long funnel as it fits perfectly as you pour with no leaks. Now you have a special tool for atf fills...=)

I actually used a Pen! Still the pouring took long enough for me to hate it..
Fill Bolt + Funnel = All Quart in less than 5 seconds (If you have a long funnel) and all 3 quarts can go in less than 20 seconds.. When I used the PEN it took 30 seconds for EACH Quart which was slow and bad to my back since I had to carefully grab my funnel and pen..


I will never ever recommend filling up trough the dipstick, I mean.. There is a reason for why the Fill Bolt is HUGE.. We with Jet Kits its even retarded easy to fill, 1x12mm bolt and BAMM easy ATF change...
Now my wife bimmer ATF change? that is retarded but not in the easy way, BMW Engineers are such a douchebags..

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Originally Posted by Skirmich
You have to lube the O-Ring before inseting it again! if that bitch its dry it will surely be a PITA to remove next fill up! I have lubed my o-ring in the Jet Kit with ATF ever since I installed it and it always come off, Always with an easy pull.. I don't even d/c the feed line I just put it aside with a drag and insert the funnel.





I actually used a Pen! Still the pouring took long enough for me to hate it..
Fill Bolt + Funnel = All Quart in less than 5 seconds (If you have a long funnel) and all 3 quarts can go in less than 20 seconds.. When I used the PEN it took 30 seconds for EACH Quart which was slow and bad to my back since I had to carefully grab my funnel and pen..

I will never ever recommend filling up trough the dipstick, I mean.. There is a reason for why the Fill Bolt is HUGE.. We with Jet Kits its even retarded easy to fill, 1x12mm bolt and BAMM easy ATF change...
Now my wife bimmer ATF change? that is retarded but not in the easy way, BMW Engineers are such a douchebags..
After the oil jet was installed on that fill bolt, I'd rather not touch it unless I see some demo pix. You have a very valid point though...thanks.
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I made a dip stick tranny filler with a 12" piece of Aluminum that probably has an OD of 1/4" , which fits nicely just inside my dip stick and it slides down about 2 inches. It is an aluminum piece that was normally used for resin injection. I duct taped a one quart funnel to the top. So every time I change my oil, I do a 3 quart tranny drain and fill. I start this first by the time I'm done with my oil change, I'm done putting 3 qts. of tranny fluid in. Each quart takes about 5 minutes to fill, but at least I don't have to hold and watch the damn thing.
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^ I'm curious why would you go trough all the pain of filling by the Dipstick when removing the Fill Bolt takes no more than a Minute?
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I have the jet kit and it seemed difficult to disrupt that area. There is nothing painful about a one quart funnel with an aluminum tube that fits perfectly in the dip stick with no leaking. Before my inventive funnel, agreed, PAIN In the ASS.
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15 minute tranny D & F ...........

Originally Posted by Buzzman996
So every time I change my oil, I do a 3 quart tranny drain and fill. I start this first by the time I'm done with my oil change, I'm done putting 3 qts. of tranny fluid in. Each quart takes about 5 minutes to fill, but at least I don't have to hold and watch the damn thing.

Hey Buzzman996, it's a matter of your personal preference and time involved.

But, ya really don't need to be doing the tranny D & F so frequently, IMO.
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I have the jet kit




More reason to do it by the Fill bolt.. Jet kit Requires a SINGLE 12mm bolt to come out and pull the jet kit its by far the easiest way to fill the trans of all.
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Originally Posted by Skirmich
More reason to do it by the Fill bolt.. Jet kit Requires a SINGLE 12mm bolt to come out and pull the jet kit its by far the easiest way to fill the trans of all.
Hey man can i install Jet kit on my 99 tranny for extra lubrication for 2nd gear? i know the kit was design for the 5 speeders....can it be done? also whats the price for the kit? im gettin additional cooler also.
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^ 99TL didn't require it.. The Jet Kit only served to cool the Shafts inside the transmission nothing to do with the Clutch Pack issue.
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^ 99TL didn't require it.. The Jet Kit only served to cool the Shafts inside the transmission nothing to do with the Clutch Pack issue.

cool, ill install one anyway for extra lubrication. cheers
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Originally Posted by tubesock700
I am attempting to do a drain and fill on my transmission, but the fill plug seems to be stuck. I used a breaker bar and broke a 1/2" extension trying to get it open. Maybe it was a crappy extension, but that seems a little rediculous.

Anyone have any ideas?

Oh, and my 1/2" drive impact didn't even wiggle the bolt.

Thanks!
My 3/4" extension and breaker bar did the trick for me.
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My 3/4" extension and breaker bar did the trick for me.
My bad, I realized that I used a 1/2" extension and breaker bar. If your 1/2" extension broke then most likely it was crap. I used a Kobalt (Lowes brand) 1/2 extension and breaker bar to break loose my crank bolt when replacing my timing belt. It held up very well.
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cool, ill install one anyway for extra lubrication. cheers
It may not work on the 99. And it would be pointless. Its only designed to spray fluid on the 2nd gear shaft of the 5 speed as there was a lack of it. The 99 doesnt have the problem.
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Originally Posted by junteschan
After the oil jet was installed on that fill bolt, I'd rather not touch it unless I see some demo pix. You have a very valid point though...thanks.
There is NOTHING to worry about. It cant be broken, it cant be put in wrong or misaligned.


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